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An interesting proposal for employment and financial crisis (or is it?)

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Unless you?re residing on another planet or extremely wealthy and living in a cave, you?ve heard how the world is having an economical recession. Most countries suffer from it. Countries on the brink of collapse, the US with their ?fiscal cliff?, Europe and their silly EU rulings.

With this, comes less jobs, less money. Heck, I?ve even been told by social services that they do not have money to set me up with a guidance counselor to get training and a job.

I think I?ve figured a way out to fix some wrongdoings, fix some of the governments shortage, as well as help smoothen out employment for all ages. Actually I?ve been thinking if I should propose this to my government, yet, I?m willing to share this with y?all. I don?t know if this holds up for any country, but logically speaking, I actually think with minor adjustments it?s more than just this small slab of land (aka The Netherlands) would benefit from it.

I?m in no way an economics major. But I?m an aspie, and that apparently grants me the superpower of thinking rationally (and probably to some extent sensible).

If I just look at my country?s situation, there?s a slight problem in that older people wont get hired, thus they end up on unemployment. This leads to them spending less money. Less stuff needs to be manufactured (or sold), thus companies shrink down, less demand clearly decreases employment. In the next year I predict that in my country the entire Housing business will collapse.

Reason; people will not get a mortgage anymore since that?s not possible if you?re unemployed. No mortgage means no loans, means no interest, means banks need to cut back on the interest they give out. And the game of dominoes keeps going on.

Here?s a proposal (applicable to my country);

Over here; if you?re under 23, you will get a percentage of your actual wage. If you?re 15, you will not get paid full, but say? 30 percent of the actual wage (don?t ask me for exact numbers, I could look them up, but it?s not relevant). That is to encourage teens and adolescents to go to school and get a degree in something (especially since everyone can and most likely will get a college loan and those benefits without any problems). Yet, the result of this is also that because it?s cheap labor, ?older? people will not get hired. And honestly, if I ran a store and I could hire someone for 3 instead of 10 bucks, I would do so as well. But it also discourages companies to hire older people that will have problems getting a job, while they clearly have more obligations than say? an 18 year old (most of the time, there are exceptions). Thus they depend more on having a job. Especially when college loans are only possible for anyone under 30. If you?re under 30 you can still enlist in college. If that fails, you can enlist in the army even. There?s a lot of options. If you?re older, you?re kinda set with what you get. And limited options because of more ?lucrative? and thus cheap employees is wrong if you ask me.

So; how to fix this?

What if? everyone will cost an employer the same amount. Jack is 40 and will cost 10, John is 18 and will cost the same 10. You just tackled the issue of affirmative action based on age (because younger is cheaper).

Problem; John will not be encouraged to go to school anymore.
Solution; Tax John for what he is eligible by according to the current rulings. If John at 18 would get 40% of minimum wage; tax him 60% and take those. Jack and John will cost the employer the same amount.

Where to go with that money? Quite simple? that goes towards the country, just like other taxes and is a good way to make sure to close the national debt through means of taxes, as well as a good incentive for companies to not discriminate based on age. Because that actually is a reason why older people won?t get hired. People should be hired for their quality, not for how cheap their labor can be. I believe it?s just a step short of being called extortion.

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Affirmative action tax for younger workers to tackle youth unemployment and increase tax revenues, is this what you mean?

Ingenious ideas indeed.

I may follow up with my own blog post if I can, so... stay tuned?
 
Well, it's the other way around... it's intended to tackle unemployment for older people. Youth can still apply for college, while older people have to get a job. Because of that mentioned "cheap labor" positions are being held by youth that should be available for everyone.
 
Oh, so the 'youth unemployment' thing I heard is just an illusion. The real issue is, no one really gets employed. My bad. :(

So well, tax the younger workers, make labor costs equal for the same set of skills, and get the government revenue to repay debts first and foremost. Well, for extraordinary circumstances, extraordinary action needs to be taken, so long as debts are repaid and people still live on life as they could.
 
Myea... it's not that youth or older people will notice a difference in pay. John still gets his 3 bucks an hour, Jack still gets 10 bucks. The ones noticing it are the companies that hire these people. I think that because of difference in wages because of age, the entire notion of hiring cheap labor has become too much of a habit in employment and business models are based on said "cheap labor". That should be turned around. And the only way to stop certain "habits" from happening is a full 180.
 
Smart employment is employment based on ability, not ageism...

Younger people are cheaper, older people are more experienced, but ability can come in all forms to make a profit. It's not just costs, costs and costs :D
 
But it seems that age (and therefore expense) is a bigger factor than ability...
 
Then aren't the firms kind of stupid? :P

Well, the reality is, we're facing stupidity. Those companies that hire us, young people with ASDs, will definitely reap rewards :D
 
They're not stupid at all.. it's sensible what they do. The things they do however turn into "financial habits" and as such turn into factors they will include in their annuals. I don't think any company has a fiscal based on "realistic expenses" but more on "how to make most profit"... that's how some companies end up going bust because they see it way to optimistic. Having cheap labor is no different. If you you need 10 people employed and they can be had for 3 instead of 10 bucks, who is stopping you? And that's where government should step in and equalize salary expenses before taxes even. It will eventually also put the breaks on greedy CEO's since they can't profit a lot anymore off the backs of "cheap" options. Yes, it might make those jobs less lucrative, but in all seriousness, I don't know if going for maximum profit and "lucrative deals" is the way to go when at some point your own company can be amongst those getting hit by financially bad weather.
 
OMG! You are talking SOCIALISM!!! (even if it's not technically) That might go over in Europe but I can tell you it'll never fly in the good ole USA! Why, the Tea Partiers and the Radical Right and the NRA will run you right out of town on a rail!

No, what I am afraid of is that we (the US) are ripe for another Hitler to take over and according to an article I read online today I am not the only one who thinks so. If you really want to read something provocative about where our global economy may be headed, I recommend James Howard Kunstler's "The Long Emergency." After that, check out his website. He has a Monday morning blog called "Cluster**** Nation" and while I don't always agree with what he says or his snobbery towards the Wal-Mart/NASCAR crowd, he has some pretty interesting points. It was because I had read "Long Emergency" that I was not terribly surprised that the Crash of 2008 happened. Of course, you being in Europe you are in a better position to judge whether he knows what he is talking about when he talks about European matters. (The comments section gets pretty lively except it has a tendency to deteriorate into racist screeds after the first few postings.)
 
Spinning Compass:

I read the 'Long Emergency', and I think James Howard Kunstler has the insights for the world as a whole.

King_Oni:

Socialism for all people is a better alternative than... racism. Because we are different, we are one.
 
Spinning Compass;bt1808 said:
OMG! You are talking SOCIALISM!!! (even if it's not technically) That might go over in Europe but I can tell you it'll never fly in the good ole USA! Why, the Tea Partiers and the Radical Right and the NRA will run you right out of town on a rail!

No, what I am afraid of is that we (the US) are ripe for another Hitler to take over and according to an article I read online today I am not the only one who thinks so. If you really want to read something provocative about where our global economy may be headed, I recommend James Howard Kunstler's "The Long Emergency." After that, check out his website. He has a Monday morning blog called "Cluster**** Nation" and while I don't always agree with what he says or his snobbery towards the Wal-Mart/NASCAR crowd, he has some pretty interesting points. It was because I had read "Long Emergency" that I was not terribly surprised that the Crash of 2008 happened. Of course, you being in Europe you are in a better position to judge whether he knows what he is talking about when he talks about European matters. (The comments section gets pretty lively except it has a tendency to deteriorate into racist screeds after the first few postings.)

I'm convinced it's some kind of socialism. I support socialism as way to govern a country or area. I might even debate I support communism to some extent (yet history has shown us that this does not work generally speaking; Communism and greed do not go hand in hand).

The reason why socialism does in fact work fine (on paper) in Europe is probably due to a different form of democracy as well involvement of the European Union. Heck; the talk of the day over here is that my country will not be able to keep to the 3% of the national debt (Which is one of the contractual things you sign up to if you join the union). Then there's also giving part of your share to the EU monetary fund. Money goes to partners in the EU that are having financial problems; though one might wonder if you should give money if you're in debt yourself. But to some extent the entire system here is built on socialism.

A reason why capitalism would work less here, and that's also why some parties in these regions have a hard time coming is because they are held back by laws. Constitutions, state laws and of course, that same involvement by the EU. And let's not forget unions for employees. Everyone has his rights and they're covered pretty well.

Compared to the US our entire electoral system works differently. As an outsider I only hear of a republican and a democrat that are electable (though there's a few others). Over here, there's a number of parties that are being electable (up to 24 I believe last year) all with their own agenda. They have to claim seats in the house or representatives that holds only 150 seats. Quite often socialist parties will get on average half of those and as such the can file fair claims to support their socialist plans and find a solution. There haven't been any strictly right parties elected since the past... heck, I can't remember, so I guess 30 years. It's either midly right, center of left anyway. Maybe it has to do with the way we built up a country on socialist pillars not the population is very keen on maintaining that.

I believe that to some extent, whenever there's taxes involved that need to go to a governing force for reasons of maintaining a country, that's enough socialism already. If we want capitalism I'm quite sure we can revert to having tribes that have to exchange goods again, break up all orders. Every company has it's own stronghold with a private army.

As for the book; I might read it. Just looking over the summary it surely holds true I think. The best of such financial collapse actually is that we all know this will happen yet no one will bite the bullet and do something about it. As long as capitalism feeds greed even more it'll be less of a society and more of a cluster of wealthy people that at some point are losing wealth as well. I mean; what's luxury worth is no one cares to place value on it? I can own an expensive car but if everyone (including potential buyers for instance) tells me "it's just a car" even value is only in the eye of the beholder.
 

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