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Fools for Jesus and the Moore Tornado

One of the effects of being in and then leaving the storefront evangelical church is that I am less and less willing to suffer religious fools gladly. And God, there are a lot of them. I am talking about people who basically live in a dream world with Jesus. You know the type.

About a month ago I was attending a charity basketball game when I got into a conversation with a woman, who when she found out where I worked started in about how if people would just eat right there wouldn't be the need for all these drugs. I said that there was some truth in what she was saying, but what about rare genetic diseases and such? Diet can't prevent those. "Oh," she said, "just trust in the Lord. Don't you trust in the Lord?" No, I told her point-blank, I don't. I trust in modern medicine. You should have seen the shock and horror on her face. "But--" she began. I said, "look, there is plenty of misery out there that your God is NOT taking care of. My job is to try to alleviate that misery. As long as God is not doing what He is supposed to be doing, then I have job security. I would LOVE to see the day when I have to find another line of work because there is no longer any need to develop medicines or cures. Until then, I don't have to worry." I don't know if anyone had ever talked to her quite like that before.

Which brings me to the recent Moore, Oklahoma tornado. For some reason God seems to have it out for that town. I think if I lived there I would seriously think about packing up and moving on. But here's the thing, that these seemingly sweet Jesus-crazed ladies (and it's almost invariably ladies) don't want to talk about. Well, I am going to talk about it.

First of all we are told that God knows everything. And that God is in control. That means, Darwin and Dawkins and others to the contrary, that there are no random events. "****" does not just happen.

So, if God knows everything and in control of everything, then what happened in Moore was not chance. God knew that there would be children in a school that was not built to withstand an EF-5 tornado and yet He steered that tornado dead-on to that school. This is not a human-caused act of violence like what happened in Connecticut. You can't invoke original sin or Adam's fall here. There was no human agency involved here. If you truly believe that God is in control then he deliberately and with full knowledge aimed that funnel cloud at those children, many who were probably praying to Him as the school collapsed.

Now, I can certainly conceive of a God who is capable of doing something like that. After all the Bible says that He had no trouble drowning every man, woman and child on earth except for a handful of people. Where I have a problem is that when people say this very same God is a God of love. Perhaps it is my Asperger's showing but that's not what I consider love.

I was reading a book for teens on growing up feeling good about yourself (a book I heartily wish had been available when I was that age), and there was a section on what is NOT normal, what is NOT love, that it is NOT normal for families to do certain things to their children like keep them confined or beat them or any of the other horrendous acts of abuse that are often passed off as love. And the children take it because they don't know any better. This book says, you don't have to take it. This is not how things are supposed to be. What a contrast to the picture painted in the Bible! There we are told that actions any normal, sane human being would consider abuse if they were committed by another human are actually signs of divine love. That we should be glad of such treatment.

I just wonder, do any of these folks who are caught up in a fantasy world with Jesus, ever ask Him about things like the Moore tornado? Or do they brush these things off because after all He is coming back soon?

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You are running head-on into the way NT's think. NT's need to have a superior entity (a god) running things.

There is a force, a universal god, if you wish to call it that, that is making things happen. I think the force is trying to make our entire universe coalesce into a single living entity. Life as we know it, all people, all the other living things on Earth, are a side effect of the basic force. Because people are sentient we can and do project ourselves to be much more than we are. Ego.

Physics and chemistry in the universe cause things to happen and those events occur in straightforward patterns. Elements in the void of space form clusters and the clusters grow to be stars. The stars have life-cycles and build more complex elements. In the life-cycle of stars they explode and scatter the newly made elements. On and on. On Earth, we have reached our current stages: the product of a collection of star dust. Literally. Maybe life develops and progresses just like the collections of atoms. Why not? Beyond our ability to understand. And it says that in the Bible. NT's take what they can bend to their own wants and ignore the rest. Basic Human nature.

Moore OK seems to be in a place where the current configuration of land mass, ocean currents, whatever else-- causes repeat patterns of storms and winds. If NT's had any sense, they would shut down the town and use it as farm land only. Maybe all of Oklahoma City should be relocated a hundred miles away in the safest direction that responsible efforts could determine. Just like New Orleans should be abandoned, the Mississippi River should be let find a better path to the sea (it wants to turn slightly west just below Baton Rouge and go to the Gulf about half-way between it's existing course and the Texas boundary), a new New Orleans designed and intended for the local geology built beside the new channel of the river. There are a vast number of other examples in all kinds of contexts.

Mainstream people (NT's) want what they want for emotional reasons. Most of us Aspies have lost or never developed much of that emotional need and are not so much more logical but depend on what is left, which is logic of some kind.

NT's cannot understand Aspies. Aspies and HFA's cannot understand NT's (although we may do better at it than the NT's do). Better to learn to blow it off when the NT's get carried away with religion and diet and many other things. Otherwise they will consider us as the 'enemy' and hurt us. Individually and collectively.
 

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