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Trying to repack the mushroom cloud. [or "Conflict: When Was I Reading Robert Heinlein?"]

Sometime last Spring I believe, maybe earlier, I was taking a walk with one of my close friends. I suddenly asked her- in earnest- "Why is it I always seem to incite conflict? It's not my intention."

She thought for a moment and said she didn't see me doing that. That it's not something she associates with me. ...and yet, I feel like I am surrounded by conflict.

I still think about that. I've asked couple of other friends and they said basically the same thing. I think, actually... one of the issues is that I can be very passionate, forceful, vocal about certain topics. it doesn't mean I am mad/angry/upset/pissed off/hateful/irritated... anything. it just means I'm trying to make a point.

But here's where I get upset: a lot of people can't differentiate me making a point from what my personal feelings or emotions might be. So then suddenly they are trying to tell me what i am saying/thinking/feeling/intending. And if I challenge that, I am lying/backtracking whatever.

This is really upsetting to me. It's the idea that anyone else has the right to dictate what I am feeling, to speak for me, to tell me that I am wrong about my experience and is, apperantly a better expert on me than I am. I think a lot of the time people don't see that they are doing this.

People who know me sometimes simply do a check in: "we ok?" "yeah" "ok, anyway as i was saying..."

People who don't know me tend to not actually believe me if I say we are ok, or I am not pissed off, etc etc etc. This has been a frequent issue the past few weeks. People telling me to not be so upset, not get offended, not take it personally.

It's akin to telling someone to not act crazy when they have a rational argument, really. And of course i'm sensitive to that. It's a cousin of gaslighting if you think about it. Only people don't realize what they are actually doing to the other person.

But for my part- I feel like I HAVE been a bit more confrontational beyond all of that. Not out to get people, but I don't know what my problem is. I actually quite honestly think there is something neurological going on. But, since I suspect that, it's not like it's a Get Out of Jail Free card.

Since I'm aware, I should be taking measures to see I'm not acting pissy all the time. but I'm having trouble trying to navigate social interactions. I'm really sad about it. I find I'm just getting into these arguments that are really stupid and it's hard for me to untangle what I mean. Before I know it I'm a jerk and... you can't disappear that.

I mean- like the mushroom cloud- you can't make it unhappen.

You can try to clean it up and treat people and do everything possible to try to heal the land and the people.

But if you are a huge jerk- that's going to linger. No matter how much you apologize.
The thing is, I don't feel like that's really me. But I don't know how to prevent it, and I'm having a really hard time lately... so I'm kind of lonely ish.

I feel like an ass.

Anyway.
Yay.

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Yay back at ya, you just descried my social interactions very well, i am sorry your having a hard time.
 
I can seriously walk into a party or a pub for example and while I try my hardest to navigate the social boundaries i always seem to attract conflict, i think as aspies we have usually reasoned what ever point we have and its hard when nt folk seem to make up there mind on the spot regarding ridiculously complex subjects after thinking for a nano second....and insist they are right and not understand that its infruiating to say ok you have a point when mostly they dont. idk
 
When I feel like this, I feel as if I'm forcing someone to be logical about consequences, and they say I'm just being aggressive, and then I do get aggressive. Self-fulfilling prophecy. I always feel like the wrong one, and the wronged one, at once. Was I really that disconnected when I said whatever I said?

I don't think so. I think it's something a socially adroit person uses to exploit my weakness, since they can rarely win on logic.

Sometimes I do say, afterward, "I didn't know I was angry about this." Those are my mushroom clouds.

Also I feel weird about "liking" this, I don't like it that it happened to you and made you feel like an ass, I like that you said something I couldn't say.
 
Well, I mean usually there's some kind of difficulty navigating social stuff- but I have tricks and such to like, distract from the awkwardness.

Lately... I just don't feel like myself. I feel like a jerk. I literally feel like... well, like I am just creating conflict but it's not like I'm trying to start anything. I just don't understand. I do think it's a kind of brain thing- like a personality/neuro issue, since there are some other significant things going on. I'm undergoing a significant med change too- I think it will be temporary. But temporary as in at least a couple of months.

In the meantime I don't want to be alienating everyone because I can't even be a decent human being. Like, I feel like I'm starting fights and i don't understand why. It's really really upsetting.

ETA: but there are two issues that I'm addressing here: The... "Gaslighting cousin" ha. And the recent thing where I'm like... unable to regulate myself I guess. Or i feel like that.
 
(((HUGS)))) I think your awesome, try not to be too hard on your self and i know from my own experience that med changes can be really difficult times. hang in there
 
Yeah! it's sort of the same for me Laz! You have 3 NTs standing around fawning over another NT ha ha ha!:rolleyes: I'll walk up and point with gory factual detail what he just said was the stupidest thing ever. And everyone looks horrified and turns on me, and tries to force me to recant.

Basically in NT land who is right is determined by social standing, if you are lower you get mocked for not knowing your place...If you are higher $$$ everyone pretends you are God...even if you are a drooling idiot.

Us auties know we are smart as H..ll, so we don't grovel properly as the social boot scrapings we are suposed to be...hence your NT outrage...what's wrong with you don't know your place...:rolleyes: my answer...still twice as smart as you...:D :rooster: don't peck meo_O
 

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