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Has Anyone here heard of MGTOW?

WARNING: May be offensive to some so if you offend easily, DO NOT READ.


A little bit about me: I'm a 26 year old, well groomed, nice guy who works seasonal jobs and even though I'm not a drop dead gorgeous guy, I'm not exactly ugly either (even been told I'm good-looking)and I work out and I treat women right (Formerly) and despite all these qualities, I couldn't snag a girlfriend or even a FWB. All the girls would always go after the jerk or alpha male and take advantage of me and I never could understand it as I was doing everything I was taught to by everyone to treat women right and show them kindness, but they never showed genuine interests in me.
At first, I thought it was just me being a failure, so I tried going out to night clubs, churches and even studied pick-up artist methods to up my game. I got some results, but it was either temporarily or even embarrassing moments, so I practically gave up on women. One day, I went online to see if anyone's experienced the same phenomenon and stumbled on a reddit posts and heard about MGTOW for the very first time: I cried and was angry for all the lies that society fed me all these years, telling me that: "If you don't get a girlfriend or laid, you're a failure!" and so I spent all month reading/studying it. Here was this philosophy and movement detailing that men are walking away and living life to their fullest without concern for society's approval. It instantly clicked with me as I've been living this life on and off over the years, but could never put a name on it. I was content when I wasn't concerned with women, but when I did place women as a main importance in my life, I was always depressed or filled with drama. Without this knowledge, I'm not sure what would've became of me as I fell into depression multiple times of the years and contemplated suicide, but knowing that they are others out there gives me hope to move on and one day become a successful man.
Note: I'm not recruiting for MGTOW and you don't have to accept it, but I just want others to be aware of it as I noticed that there are some male aspies who struggle with this just as I did in the past.

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I've never heard of MGTOW, but you are correct in that "scoring" a date should never be something we base our happiness around.
I see so many guys hung up over getting a girlfriend/getting laid, and they are clearly miserable as a result (and they are objectifyng women, in a somewhat weird and dehumanizing way).
 
As long as it doesn't include contempt for others.
Trying too hard to date often is built upon a view that dehumanizes women/men/persons-in-whatever-group you're trying to date. Likewise, getting too enthusiastic about being independent and free from the other gender can also be built upon a view that dehumanizes the persons in that gender.
 
I agree with Ste11aeres, it's great when people aren't overly obsessed with getting dates or finding their "true love" or whatever. I've told many friends that the best way to find someone is to stop looking. Seriously. Stop worrying about scoring and do your own thing. It's confidence that is generally attractive. The alphas tend to get people because they exude confidence, but you don't need to be an alpha to present an air of confidence. People tend to be more confident when they've taken care of themselves and quit worrying so much about getting a date.
 
This is really affirming. So often the social focus is about the pressures that are put on women, that we forget how much pressure we put on the males in society. I see this especially now that I am raising a son. I always thought the character of "Cal" in "Titanic" was somewhat tragic as he was the product of the pressures and expectations of early twentieth-century high society, and he failed miserably when he couldn't eschew those external pressures. Is awful that modern men feel equally pressured by the current cultural paradigms.
 
Marmot...I seriously cannot tell if that guy is promoting MGTOW or is mocking it...
"Women are made out to be harmless, beautiful creatures but the truth is many women today will rip out your heart and testicles through your wallet and move onto their next victim. And they have no guilt or remorse....many more women today in their twenties then in past generations are riding the cock carousel... A man aware of how women function in society and manipulate men in covert ways are hard to guilt and shame into doing the things for her. He knows the game so he's harder to trick into marriage, protection and resources extraction. Shame is the name of many women's game."

I can't tell if he's promoting MGTOW, or mocking it by satire. I really really hope he is mocking it, because otherwise he is a hate-filled horrible person.
 

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