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Anonymous note threatens to call council over teen with autism's 'strange moaning and shouting'

AGXStarseed

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(Not written by me. The word 'suffers' has not been edited out here as it is part of the neighbour's letter)

The mother of a teenager with autism targeted in an anonymous letter threatening to call the local council over his "strange moaning and shouting" says it is nothing short of bullying.

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Brisbane woman Magenta Quinn found the unnamed letter in her mailbox on Monday and shared it with her local Facebook group.

It read:

Dear owner/tenant

I am one of your neighbours and wish to remain anonymous to avoid any conflict.

When you moved in we heard these strange moaning and shouting coming from your garden every day and night, for which we were concerned may be illegal activities, so we contacted the police who in turn have visited your premises.

They informed us of your situation that a person in your family is suffering from a mental illness and that was the source of the noise.

Whilst I sympathise with your situation is [sic] it is a very disturbing noise that comes from your garden continuously, every day, sometimes late into the night.

It is not fair on the community to have to bear this disturbance especially as it occurs daily.

I would kindly request that you consider your neighbours and try to limit the amount of time that is spent in the garden such that we do not have to listen to the disturbing noise daily and sometimes before 6am.

I am giving you the opportunity to help us live together in this community without it becoming a constant battle.

If this continues at the regular intervals it has been, I intend to make a formal complaints against your address to council to help resolve the issue.

Yours sincerely

Neighbour​

Ms Quinn, who is her son's full-time carer, said she posted it to social media to make a stand.

"I put it up because I decided people who are bullies should be called out," she said.

"It's just not OK, you don't do this to people."

Ms Quinn said her son had the mental capacity of a six year old, and his "humming and occasional yelps", while loud at times, were a part of him.

"There's nothing I can do. It'd be the same as telling someone to stop breathing. He's autistic, he hums, he flaps, he prances, he's non-verbal," she said.

"He's finished school and can't cope with the lifestyle centre. He's got a lot of stresses in his life and there's literally nothing I could do.

"Do I lock him in the house from 8 at night to 8 in the morning? What do they expect? There's no compassion from these people."

She said her son's noises were his "comfort".

"It's like people who tear their hair when feeling anxious, or flick their nails. It's exactly the same as breathing to him. It's a natural part of who he is … he doesn't do it all the time," she said.

"I've lived with it for a long time, I've tuned it out."

Ms Quinn admitted there were occasions where her son was outside making noises as late as 10:00pm, and as early as 5:00am.

"It doesn't happen often, but it does happen," she said.

"These people are telling me muzzle your son, and I can't. There's nothing I can do.

"If they're going to have an attitude maybe they need to close the window, play some background music in their house, get earplugs, I don't know."

Ms Quinn said she has lived at her current house for a couple of months without incident, until police arrived one night in January to investigate the noises.

She said no-one had spoken to her personally about her son, but had previous encounters at a former address with one neighbour "who came over at least once a month to complain".

"Prior to that I was half a dozen streets from where I am now. I was there for four years and no-one complained," she said.

Ms Quinn said the one positive to come from the note was the kind words and support she received from her local Facebook community group after sharing the note.

"I've got people who reached to me and offered me carers packages, and told me they've been through the same thing," she said.


'Get a life'
Autism Awareness Australia CEO Nicole Rogerson said she was disgusted by the letter.

"It just shows you how completely clueless some people can be," Ms Rogerson said.

"By all means if you had a noise next door that was disturbing you, you have every right to enquire.

"But once that enquiry results in you understanding someone in your community is dealing with a child with a significant disability, if that isn't enough to just shut you down and look at your own life and count how lucky you are, then it's just awful — a mum who is battling anyway to raise a son on the autism spectrum … that she'd have to tolerate a neighbour showing such a lack of understanding.

"It must just be soul crushing."

Ms Rogerson said parents of children with autism often felt isolated from their communities, and letters such as this just "cement that feeling".

"I can't imagine having a life so devoid of anything that your biggest complaint is a boy next door making noises in his garden. Buy a radio and get a life," she said.

"Learn how to be a better neighbour. Go and see her and ask her if there's something you can do to make her life a little easier, because I imagine she's struggling with this boy.

"She's probably having a pretty rough time with him. How easy is it to just reach out and see if you can be a better neighbour."

She said this was not the first time she's heard of anonymous letters targeting children with autism.

"People are just absolutely heartless and people don't understand disability and don't know how to cope with it and don't know … they're quite intolerant of autism," she said.

Ms Rogerson said she did not expect the council to take any action.

"I can't imagine any council in any way, shape, or form having action towards the mum just trying to raise her kid with a disability," she said.

"It just shows you an absolutely uncharitable, unneighbourly way of behaving … and all that person's done is reconfirmed to parents with kids with disabilities that we're often on our own, we just don't have community support."


Source: 'It's bullying': Anonymous letter threatens to call council on teen with autism
 
I don't think telling people to get a life and buy a radio is helpful.
I agree. Maybe people do understand and are sympathetic but don’t want to share the living hell of their neighbours in what was a previously quiet neighbourhood and pretend it’s all ok. It’s not. They just wish it would stop or move elsewhere. I have a life and a radio. I also had a quiet home and a peaceful life that I was enjoying in my late years, in my retirement. But no more. I am being driven from my much loved home by a similar intolerable situation. My home is now up for sale. Who will want to buy it I don’t know. But they’re going to need a huge heart and a huge sound system.
And to Ms R above, she of the radio recommendation, let me tell you my position is certainly different but no less ‘soul crushing’ than that experienced by the individual who received the letter that generated your soap box rhetoric. Perhaps you could widen your ‘understanding’ too.
 
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I lived in a condo building where a 16 year old teenage boy had a rare illness called misophonia* (after serving a brain injury the year prior). He would run up and down the stairs growling/ slobbering/snarling like a rabid dog and slamming all the doors. He also went into fits of smashing mirrors, holes in walls, and shouting swear words at the top of his lungs in fits, day and night. It went on for a few years until his mother got him help. It was EXTREMELY frightening, disruptive, and noisy. We would encounter him on the stairs, or snarling behind his apt door (the door was open inches). We tried to get them to move, get him help, etc. Mom had great difficulties with no insurance, single parent, and finding a specialist for treatment.

This was not something we could “ignore.” I can certainly understand all the neighbors feelings above 100%. All people feel they a right to peace and quiet, and safety in their homes.
*Misophonia: When sounds really do make you “crazy” - Harvard Health Blog
 
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While I sympathize with the mother and the young man with autism, the neighbors do have a right to undisturbed sleep in their homes. Sending an anonymous letter was antisocial, they should have talked directly and discreetly with the mother. It seems reasonable that if the young man can't not make loud noises, he should stay inside his home at night. Both sides are handling this wrong.
 
(Not written by me. The word 'suffers' has not been edited out here as it is part of the neighbour's letter)

The mother of a teenager with autism targeted in an anonymous letter threatening to call the local council over his "strange moaning and shouting" says it is nothing short of bullying.

Source: 'It's bullying': Anonymous letter threatens to call council on teen with autism


I have very strong multiple sensory disorders. I would be the first to complain about the boy in the garden. I have worked very hard to live in safety, peace and quiet. I have been homeless, and lived in extremely high crime areas in the past with gangs, shootings, and drugs. So yeah, I am not tolerant. That mother is living in fantasy to expect that kind of tolerance.
 
I lived in a condo building where a 16 year old teenage boy had a rare illness called misophonia* (after serving a brain injury the year prior). He would run up and down the stairs growling/ slobbering/snarling like a rabid dog and slamming all the doors. He also went into fits of smashing mirrors, holes in walls, and shouting swear words at the top of his lungs in fits, day and night. It went on for a few years until his mother got him help. It was EXTREMELY frightening, disruptive, and noisy. We would encounter him on the stairs, or snarling behind his apt door (the door was open inches). We tried to get them to move, get him help, etc. Mom had great difficulties with no insurance, single parent, and finding a specialist for treatment.

This was not something we could “ignore.” I can certainly understand all the neighbors feelings above 100%. All people feel they a right to peace and quiet, and safety in their homes.
*Misophonia: When sounds really do make you “crazy” - Harvard Health Blog

Sounds more like lycanthropy than misophonia. Are you sure it wasn't a full moon?
 
Sounds more like lycanthropy than misophonia. Are you sure it wasn't a full moon?

Not funny whatsoever. Living in a small building with him was pure HELL. His mother was very protective and defensive and quite angry (like the woman in the story above) of us all for not “accepting and tolerating” his condition.

He did indeed act like he was rabid, but the diagnosis was misophonia, which I had never heard of. It’s not in the DSM. Misophonia has not yet been linked to extreme autism...but maybe someday it will be.
 
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What Is Misophonia?

"Misophonia, literally "hatred of sound", was proposed in 2000 as a condition in which negative emotions, thoughts, and physical reactions are triggered by specific sounds.

Misophonia is not classified as an auditory or psychiatric condition, there are no standard diagnostic criteria, and there is little research on how common it is or the treatment. Proponents suggest misophonia can adversely affect the ability to achieve life goals and to enjoy social situations. Treatment consists of developing coping strategies through cognitive behavioral therapy and exposure therapy."
Misophonia - Wikipedia

I wasn't familiar with the word and found
these sources informative.
 
Doesn't mean he had misophonia either.

The doctors after many months diagnosed his with this rare disorder.

It does not matter WHAT he has....the neighbors DO have rights too. Diagnosis or not, it’s preposterous for a mom to tell neighbors to ignore it or accept it. Our neighbor did that too with her son.
 

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