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Hello everybody,

I found this forum when I was searching for fora for people with autism/HFA/Asperger's, not about them, and one that isn't too overrun with people who accessorise themselves with supposed ASD because it's the new geek-chic must-have.

I was diagnosed with HFA as a teenager and, as such, was probably among the earliest crowd to receive an autism-spectrum diagnosis at all. One of my parents worked with people with classic autism and was more aware of the 'higher-functioning' forms than the mainstream, even in medicine, at the time. That's why I was taken for diagnosis at a time when most others like me went unnoticed.

Unfortunately, though, my parents weren't receptive and had, against better knowledge I think, thought that a diagnosis would somehow shock me back to 'normality'. It didn't. Despite what one of them did for a living, I was considered broken and was drilled into appearing normal with great pressure and frequent punishment. The diagnosis itself was never acknowledged. Incidentally, said parent stopped working with autistic people after my diagnosis and made a second career in public administration.

About 20 years on, I finally have a halfway tolerable life after many years of struggling, but no thanks to the treatment I received from my parents, but in spite of it. Unfortunately, because I was drilled into 'acting normal', I fly completely under the radar in everyday life these days. Barely anyone knows, and you have to get closer to me than I can tolerate most people being in order to suspect anything. My SO knows, of course, and was never the least bit surprised.

About two years ago I initiated another diagnostic process. (I live in Europe and it's covered by health insurance. In many other places, I wouldn't have been able to afford it.) I was relieved when I received a related diagnosis, this time Asperger's. The different diagnosis may be due to the lack of data from my childhood. But, in the end, it doesn't make a difference; the problems remain the same and I'm still at odds with society, and the diagnosis acknowledges that.

I had had many psychosomatic health issues leading up to the second diagnosis that made me think I needed to change my life, and one of the most glaring things about that was to stop pretending - including to myself - that I was 'normal'.

My main issue these days is the problem of how not to run myself ragged in an NT world with NT demands while still making a living, preferably in something not quite as wrong for me as the field I work in at the moment. The problem is that part-time work doesn't exist much anywhere else, and that I don't have the connections and the ability for sustained social schmoozing to work in the niche where my degree is.

Full-time work is out unless absolutely necessary for survival. I've done it, and I crumble after a while. I can be fairly okay (sometimes even better) when I pace myself, as I can when working part-time. But that's just a shaky equilibrium that isn't the same as being functionally NT. The silly thing is that it's not the work part that is ever the problem, it's the part where I have to do it an NT world with NT social demands that leaves me feeling like I've run a marathon at the end of every day.

Ideally, I'm hoping to talk to people who are facing similar problems. Because, there has to be something better than subsistance, and I'm looking for ways to get there.

Regarding what I said about 'geek-chic must-haves', I'm not referring to self-diagnosis, as long as it's based on an actual understanding of what autism/ASD are. I know how tough it can be to get a diagnosis, or to pay for it, and how risky it can be in some circumstances. But - online at least - I have come across so incredibly many people who claim to have Asperger's or to be on the spectrum only to respond to autism-related problems like your typical, garden-variety, uneducated-in-autism-matters neurotypical person-on-the-street that my patience is running thin and my guard is up. It's not an accessory, it's my lived reality, with everything that comes with it, every day.

I'm quite happy to be who I am. I wouldn't take the pill that 'cures' me if it existed. I just wish that the only world available to me weren't one I so heavily clash with.
 
Welcome :)

That's interesting that you've come across so many "fake Aspies". Where did you find such individuals? I've always wondered what the appeal would be, in pretending to have AS.

I myself am self-diagnosed. I know all too well about being expected to simply "be normal", but was fortunate enough to have parents who had mostly left me to my own devices...most of the time. I understand the struggles with trying to follow a passion, and being confined to doing it to a standard that does not suit yourself. That can be quite frustrating.

Anyway, I hope you find this place to be to you liking. Our members are wonderfully helpful, and friendly, people. We also have a resources section you can browse through. Members are welcome to add to this too: Autism & Asperger's Resources | AspiesCentral.com
 
Hi Vanilla,

Thanks for the welcome, the kind words and the link.

The people I find less believable were a vocal minority on the most sizeable online fora, and some who pop up in places that don't centre on discussing autism, but where it sometimes comes up tangentially.

I quite like the feel of this place. I'm active in discussion boards on societal issues and my special interests, but I like taking a long look around before I sign up to somewhere new because I don't like forum-hopping. And, anyway, each contribution is an investment in time and effort, and while I don't expect inordinately much, I do usually want to get some minor return-on-investment out of it and not just clog up the internet.

I hope I'll have an interesting, informative time here.
 
I'm a little late here, but welcome to the forum. <waves>

I certainly relate to much of what you wrote above. I could work all day and night in a job that didn't have social demands. It's not the work, it's the stress of interaction and the threat of being interrupted in order to respond to someone's questions or listen to them talk about something unrelated to the job. I don't do well changing tasks and refocusing my attention. Therefore, I'm self-employed. I don't make the greatest money, but usually I limp by. I can almost pass for NT too, but people do think I'm "standoffish" and, sometimes, even arrogant or snobbish.

There's lots of good people here. Hope you enjoy the discussions.
 
Yeah, I have seen one of those other forums, full of stuff that NT people should do to fix their problems.
A good lot of us have tried them tricks... and they don't work. I don't get that feeling around here, though.

Sometimes, the best a person with autism can do is not the best somebody else can do. Example: Some people believe everybody should work. Well, that's not quite true. Some people are better off on disability than working. Admitting it is half the problem and pretending doesn't cut it. If you cannot deal with others in the workplace, you may not find a suitable working environment. So much for the cookie cutters some people use.
 
I can relate to much of what you have posted. I am one of those who slipped under the net, having been born in '75 and being female as well. I was often in trouble at school, had all the struggles, and was even sent to a child psychologist at 8 for an IQ test as the headmaster at my school thought I was of low intelligence or something due to my behaviour at school. I also had abuse in my childhood, which complicated things as obviously I then had a whole lot of other issues overlaying the ASD traits, primarily emotional dysregulation.

Diagnosed with clinical depression at 13, I struggled on, never able to fit in, getting taken advantage of due to my naivety and unable to do as well in school as I was capable of. I have only held down jobs for brief periods of time, even though I am sure I have the ability to do the actual work. I was then diagnosed with OCD and social anxiety by an idiot psychologist who decided I could not possibly have Aspergers because I had actually wanted friends as a child (had just not been able to make them).

Finally, just over a week ago, I got my official diagnosis, and the specialist basically knew within 30 minutes of observing and questioning. I am based in the Uk, but there had not been any specialists locally and my doctor did not seem interested in trying to get my diagnosed elsewhere, claiming the NHS would not fund an adult diagnosis because there is no treatment for it.

Anyway, welcome, I find this to be the best forum I have found so far, having been on a certain other one for some years.
I have not been able to mold myself too well to fit into the NT world. I have a friend who has been able to pretend but for me, that is so draining and I really do not want to have to change myself to fit into a world that is so full of dishonesty, corruption and lack of moral integrity anyway.
 
You'll find here a mixture of professionally diagnosed and "self diagnosed" members, but pretty everyone who's stuck around is sincere, knowledgeable about AS, and probably correct in their self-assessment.
I imagine that maybe in a non AS-specific site one would find people who have only shallow and misguided view of AS, and therefore were able to mistakenly think they have it, but in a forum such as Aspies Central, which is both AS-specific, and very tight-knit, anyone who sticks around acquires enough knowledge of AS from the other members, that it would be unlikely for anyone to not come to a fuller knowledge of whether or not they do have AS. Sometimes members have joined while being uncertain whether they really do have AS or are NT, but after a while, they have tended to come to a definitive, and probably accurate, conclusion about themselves.
There are also a few friendly NTs on this site, open about their NT-ness here because of a loved one, or out of interest. They are good people too.

Personally, I don't understand why anyone would think proclaiming oneself as having AS would be cool. After all, in reality, having AS often means you've been living your life being treated by others as the uncool person, the loser.

When people started telling me I might be an Aspie, I was in total denial and rebellion against the idea. There was nothing cool about it, in my mind. One day I started reading about it out of curiosity, in the same way I might read about any neurological condition. The more I read, the more I realized I was reading a description of myself. With time, I came to accept my Aspie-ness. The discovery that my best-and only- friend had been an Aspie all along (he doesn't go around telling people and I hadn't previously known enough to recognise it) was another joyful moment.
Like you, employment and work has always been a problem for me. ANd it hasn't been the work itself, it's been the social aspects, the fact that I'm often disliked, and usually despised, by bosses and coworkers.
 
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I was unable to get an actual diagnosis because I live in one of those places where it costs money. But I did intensive, intensive research on AS.
Like you, employment and work has always been a problem for me. ANd it hasn't been the work itself, it's been the social aspects, the fact that I'm often disliked, and usually despised, by bosses and coworkers.
I see that you live in the United States. Where, may I ask? The local county mental health agency should be able to give you the test. If not, a state-owned university would be glad to do the work. I cannot imagine that it would be more than $200 for the test.
 

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