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Are there any fish owners?

Rachie

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I have been wondering about this on and off. Several years ago I was close to buying some fish but kept being called to hospital for a Co condition for quite long periods. Once I was called on the way to the fish shop to take some home and I had to stop it.

I would like to know as a neurodiverse adult how do you manage the routine of looking after fish. I love sea life always have. I had goldfish as a child but it was nothing than just giving them gold fish food and I grew attached to seeing them.

I have a fish shop in my area. If I go for it I would get some before Christmas. I think for me it would be a step up gradually in tank size.

It's been so long. I worry a bit about waking up and not seeing them and the fish from the fair didn't have longevity.

It does have benefits for me sure. Is there anything I should know.

Thank you
 
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I had fish years ago and one important thing is that it takes some work. And money. I have many times seen fish in dirty inadequate aquariums with insufficient everything. And it's very sad. Fish sounds like an easy pet, but I think they are more work than many other pets. For example, once in a while you have to move them into something else, so you can clean the aquarium, that takes some time. So I would recommend finding all the needed info before getting any fish. Things like types of water plants, water PH level, creating the correct oxygen level in water, how to keep it clean, recommended size of aquariums and so on. And different types of fish needs different things.
 
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A beta fish is fairly easy to care for, but you can only have one.

Mollies are very easy, but I think they only come in black.

These little guys are freshwater shrimp. They get about an inch long, come in a variety of bright colors, they will reproduce, and you can have a whole bunch in even a small tank.

They are easier to take care of than fish, in my opinion.

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Two active reefs and two that are cycled but uninhabited.

They give me structure and I enjoy keeping after them.

My water change cycles are now automated and I keep active but never overcrowded environments.

I think one of the biggest mistakes first timers do is to overfeed.
The other one is putting too many fish in the same pool.
That pollutes their environment with both waste and toxins from either the fish or the overfeed.

Start off simple with easy to care for stock that are both hardy and inexpensive.
Goldfish are a good starter but very dirty.

You might try your hand at it with simple feeder fish like minnows.
The last time I tried them I believe they were under $.15 each.
 
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I keep a live coral reef, with 3 fish. If you go salt water I would suggest a clown fish (like Nemo)
They can be kept alone in a small tank 7-10 gallons. They are territorial with other fish so one is best. Or one damsel.
Salt costs a little more in the beginning but if you feed sparingly and use live rock and live sand, it’s incredibly easy to maintain if you don’t overfeed. I feed my 3 fish probably 3-6 times per week. Just a small pinch of dry flake food.
If you want to set up a saltwater aquarium I can share lots of helpful tips to make it easy and low maintenance.

Once the tank is established / cycled. Never clean the entire thing. Only change 10-25% of the water. There are beneficial bacteria and organisms that keep the chemical levels balanced. If you empty the tank to clean it everything dies.

I change about 4-5 gallons out once every 2-4 months in my 33 gallon system. I top off the level for evaporation almost daily with zero TDS pure water (reverse osmosis and de ionized)

Side note: clown fish like the ocellaris also known as a false percula are great and live a long time if even the most basic maintenance is done. They stay pretty small. Keep the temperature 78-82 and it will live a long happy life. The one I have has been with me for 11+ years. This particular fish has been “bulletproof” for me and has lived through a lot of less than ideal conditions and catastrophes. They can be aggressive with other fish and will almost definitely bite you but it feels like a pinch and is no big deal.
 
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I have been wondering about this on and off. Several years ago I was close to buying some fish but kept being called to hospital for a Co condition for quite long periods. Once I was called on the way to the fish shop to take some home and I had to stop it.

I would like to know as a neurodiverse adult how do you manage the routine of looking after fish. I love sea life always have. I had goldfish as a child but it was nothing than just giving them gold fish food and I grew attached to seeing them.

I have a fish shop in my area. If I go for it I would get some before Christmas. I think for me it would be a step up gradually in tank size.

It's been so long. I worry a bit about waking up and not seeing them and the fish from the fair didn't have longevity.

It does have benefits for me sure. Is there anything I should know.

Thank you
I started out with a 30-gallon tank, that turned into a 40 and a 55 gallon, that turned into a 300-gallon wall aquarium. Yeah, go big or go home! I had some huge South American catfish and cichlids, but it was quite expensive in terms of running the huge circulation pumps and then all the maintenance on the huge filtration system. It was cool to have those big fish, they would greet you all excited like a puppy wagging their tails, you could feed them by hand, but they ate like Killer Whales! Food was not cheap. I then sold those fish and flipped into an all-natural ecosystem with loads of plants and Asian labyrinth fish like Gouramis. No filter, just kept the fish stock low and the plant stock high and I had plants outside the aquarium with flowers. I was quite proud of all that. We ended up selling the house, the aquarium, etc. and that was history. No room in the new house.

Well, once I retire and build my new house, there will be room for another large setup. Going all-natural ecosystem on that one. Lots of plants.

Tip: I know it is common to start out with something small, but in terms of fishkeeping, the larger the system the more stable it is in terms of water chemistry, temperature, and so on. There can be less maintenance on a larger system if it is stable, like in my example of my planted tank. Once a month or so, I would prune plants, literally large garbage bags of plant material! The chemistry was so stable and the nitrogen levels so low, the water was almost pure with the plants recycling all the fish debris. I don't think this would be possible with a 30, 40, 55 gallon set up.

Tip 2: If you have a small tank, then choose small fish. Think proportions in nature. It's important to know how big a certain fish could get. If you can imagine yourself locked into a 12 x 12 glass box for your entire life, that would be quite distressing, but if you were the 1/10 the size you are now in that same glass box, and had an environment that was stimulating and also with places to hide, it might be tolerable. Most people tend to over stock their tanks which only leads to stress, diseases, bad water chemistry, and lots of maintenance. Be conservative. It might be one fish in a 20 gallon tank with a lot of plants. If my fish had room to really swim and make a long run across the tank before turning, this is good. If they are swimming in circles all day, this is bad.
 
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All of my rigs are plumbed to a reverse osmosis setup.
There is a whole bundle of poly plumbing that runs in my basement.
Each rig is set up with two float valves, one to prevent over draining and the other to shut off filtered water flow when the level has been satisfied.

The filter itself is mounted on a closet wall in my bathroom.
There is a set of electric solenoid valves tied to a spring wound timer switch so the infeed water can't be left on.
On Monday mornings, I trip the drain solenoids so the empty the tanks a quarter of the way.
After the drain cycle is over I crank about an hour into the fill cycle and walk away.

No muss, no fuss, no water spills
About once every two months I sweep the tank floors.

The smaller the rig the more difficult they are to keep properly balanced.
Anything under ten gallons is considered a fish killer.

I run a 45 gallon bowfront to house just two goldfish.
The undercabinet filter is rated for a 100 gallon tank to offset the dirt that they make.

Trust me, no one starts off good at this.
Mistakes will be made and we all learned a little at a time.
Don't be afraid to ask questions, but back up anything you get told.
 
I've had large tanks a couple of times, I preferred fresh water tropical, the tank needs a heater but it's nowhere near as much mucking around as with salt water. I'd love to have another fish tank, so many busy eyeball hours in one of them, but I just don't have the room for it. Tiny apartment, 42 square metres.

If you decide to do it don't buy fish straight away, it takes a while to set up a happy environment for them. Fill a tank and populate it with all the decorations and plants you want, then let that go for a few weeks before buying any fish. You need to get the algae cultures growing properly in there to "soften" the water and make it more suitable for fish.

With the last tank I set up one of the weeds I put in there had some tiny snails on it, I didn't notice at the time but I noticed pretty quick two weeks later, the snails bred like crazy, a massive infestation, then as the algae got eaten and there was less food for them the numbers dropped back to much more reasonable levels. That was the easiest to maintain tank I had, the snails did a lot of the work for me.
 
I keep zebra and leopard danios lovely fish and easy to care for but you need to have 8 or more otherwise they get distressed in small numbers.its a pleasure to watch them
 
Thank you, everyone has supplied me with some really good information. I will read out your suggestions when I speak to fish shop today. I will see what fish they have in stock as well and I will ask them about easy to care for fish.

Yes, it appears best for me to start small and getting the feel of things.

I got a bit concerned due to what Forest Cat wrote about needing to give another house to the fish while the tank is being cleaned and I have a bath so I think that would work as I do not wish to buy two tanks. I want the fish whilst with me to have the best quality of life. So have to consider how I can do that. As Outdated stated I need to get their home ready first before I buy the fish so I need to put them first and give this some time so thank you for that.

TBRS1 and Rocco your fish and displays are beautiful.
I don't get out much and I think I would to have one around.
Thank you everyone
 
I am waiting to after Christmas to buy the fish and tank now etc. I should be visiting the shop on the 27th.
I prefer things as stripped as possibe in the tank with my sensibilites, but the fish needs to be happy and thriving as well so I will meet that someway if needed. I prefer tanks about 60 cms long at least to give the fish some space. I only though intend to buy 1 coldwater fish really, two at max. I wondered if 60cms was good for a fish and whether it is a good idea for them to be alone.
The price is reasonable for the tank etc Ciano 60cms in white for around 120. It is just want I wanted. I am looking forward to it.
 
I wondered if 60cms was good for a fish and whether it is a good idea for them to be alone.
60 cm is fine for small species of fish, what is known as a common goldfish is a type of carp and they can get pretty big over time. If you add a heater to the tank then you can get a much wider range of fish to put in it and some of them are very active and very colourful.

For a tank that size Guppies are a good choice, they're only small, really pretty and fairly easy to look after. You can't have just one or two of them by themselves though, they live in large schools or shoals and they need to have a few friends around them all the time.

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60 cm is fine for small species of fish, what is known as a common goldfish is a type of carp and they can get pretty big over time. If you add a heater to the tank then you can get a much wider range of fish to put in it and some of them are very active and very colourful.

For a tank that size Guppies are a good choice, they're only small, really pretty and fairly easy to look after. You can't have just one or two of them by themselves though, they live in large schools or shoals and they need to have a few friends around them all the time.

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Thank you so much Outdated. I love the photo of the fish. I must save it myself. I will certainly be looking out for Guppies in the fish shop as well. I just cannot wait now.
 

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