ASD / Narcissism .. + asd mirror of Narcissism? (question)

[Last Fortress]

Hi,

if you see here:
Misdiagnosing Narcissism - Asperger's Disorder

The narcissist switches between social agility and social impairment voluntarily.

That is kinda like me BUT not voluntarily, but it is involuntary. I can't change from being sometimes socially ok to being socially 5000% impaired. (so much impairment when I am like this this its just like I can't even slow down,etc.

Other:
- I deeply feel the love for others,etc (and too much)


any idea what's going on here?

 

[Ereth]

The narcissist switches between social agility and social impairment voluntarily.

I don't think anyone is purposefully socially impaired. A huge part of narcissism is constant social impairment, in fact. Narcissists are able to play social situations to their advantage, but it's not because they themselves are emotionally healthy.

I deeply feel the love for others,etc (and too much)

You have what I call super-empathy. I deal with it too. This doesn't make ASD a mirror of narcissism, though.

 

[King_Oni]

I almost got misdiagnosed with NPD went I was looking into my diagnosis.

The big thing for me was that I don't have a lot of issues with social interaction in the sense that I can easily can get on top of plenty of conversations. That by itself would contradict the general notion that a lot of people on the spectrum are more socially awkward and such. Add in that I have no issues to stand up for myself and might at point care less about others and think about myself more (which I would see as a form of self-preservation), the initial idea was that NPD was my issue.

Further down NPD might still be a minor thing, but I might very well have developed these traits because of AS. Another therapist called my situation "healthy narcicism considering you're on the autism spectrum as well, since it makes you a bit more verbal and standing up for yourself in any and all situations"...

 

[Christy]

I believe my ex was NPD. He believed he was gods gift to mankind and was frustrated and angry that people didn't automatically shine to him when he walked into a room... He was after all going to save them all.

He was very socially awkward but he certainly knew how to read people and manipulate them into getting what he wanted. This would possibly be portrayed as social agility, but he was merely giving the people what they needed so he got what he wanted. At times, he saw it as his best interest to be socially awkward, so I believe he put it on in those circumstances.

I think for an NPD, it's all about them and what they can get. This isn't the case for an autistic person.

 

[Last Fortress]

The thing is right now, why can't we all just as humans become all together, because really. lets forget about everything bad and lets just all come together and be joyful and connected as one


love and peace and spirit

 

[Ereth]

The thing is right now, why can't we all just as humans become all together, because really. lets forget about everything bad and lets just all come together and be joyful and connected as one

Unfortunately, that's not how the world works. It never has. And in order to come together, we have to learn from past mistakes. Human beings are generally very bad at doing that as a species.

 

[Last Fortress]

Unfortunately, that's not how the world works. It never has. And in order to come together, we have to learn from past mistakes. Human beings are generally very bad at doing that as a species.

Hi there,


Well, the thing is, maybe our cultures are? is it possible?.

look at some of the other cultures in the world and [sorry no more what ok ]

 

[Vanilla]

This guy knows a fair bit about NPD, and has quite a few informative videos in YouTube. He explains the difference between ASD and NPD, though he does advise that he is not an expert in ASD.

To sum it up, NPD is a learned behaviour; usually originating out of trauma. ASD is something you are born with. A person with NPD is acting out of insecurity and anger, and the desire to see you suffer, so that they may feed from your suffering (just as a bully will bully their victims, to make themselves feel more validated). A person with ASD may appear blunt, or rude, but it's usually by accident, and isn't generally intended to be malicious. I do believe it may be possible to have both though.

 

[Ereth]

Hi there,


Well, the thing is, maybe our cultures are? is it possible?.

look at some of the other cultures in the world and [sorry no more what ok ]

This is nothing but ethnocentrism. It doesn't matter what culture you look at---everyone's guilty. Every civilization in the history of our existence has done something in the name of personal gain and at others' expense. It's true that sometimes this guarantees survival and/or prosperity for the victor, but other times, conflict occurs solely in the name of wanton destruction and a superiority complex.