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Aspies VS. Corporal Discipline: The Signs And Effects Of Corporal Discipline And How To Defeat Them

UberScout

Please Don't Be Mad At Me 02/09/1996
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Admit it; at one point or another, shortly or later on after you discovered you're an Aspie, you've met, stayed over with or either have by default, some form of parent or authority figure that either dictated your life indirectly (or directly) in areas where things mattered to you but not to them, or they just controlled every aspect of your life, from when you got up in the morning to how much breakfast, lunch, dinner and/or dessert you ate (or in some excessively rare cases, whether you ate at all), to what you did in your free time and how you did it, to what you did at school, eventually to the point where newer punishments are introduced that make zero sense whatsoever (a teacher at a charter school I used to go to once made me sit on a pair of pine-cones on the chair at my desk while reciting the Pledge Of Allegience 28 times in a row, and if I stopped for a second, lost count or stuttered too much, I had to reset the count and start over! I swear I'm not making this up, those teachers were that messed up in the head!), and had no purpose.

As I've learned through observation and [unwilling] exposure to these people (if they even deserve to be called that), they let this form of controlling power go to their heads and soon it evolves outside the boundaries of targeting youths and expand to the field of adults, making for not only bizarre and unrealistic results and expectations from them, but the inability to feel any positive emotions towards life's other priorities than what they already believe.

So how can you identify a person who specializes (waaay too much) in Corporal Discipline? It's a lot easier to do than you might think, although some cases, it's not always obvious.

COMMON TRAITS SEEN WITHIN CORPORAL FIGURE

1. Tunnel Vision: Not all of us who's encountered these types know what this is; basically, when someone has tunnel vision, that means that they will tell you what they believe about something you present to them, which 9.5 times out of 10 is a negative opinion, and they will stick to an ironclad philosophy that further "justifies" why they have the right to believe in such a thing, and will not willingly observe any other opinions about said belief outside the one they already have. This can include a number of subjects, including the plots of various video games, movies you've watched, internet memes or YouTube videos you frequently view, or in more commonly presented cases, it's just a matter of "anything YOU love, THEY hate and will not stop hating, no matter what it is." In even more cases, these individuals will display a condescending attitude which in a nutshell means that no matter what you tell them about that subject, and no matter how harmless you prove to them it is, they will never change their opinion about it, simply because they have the right to keep their current opinion out of free will.

Another annoyingly common trope from this is often, but rarely known as, gaslighting. What this means is that when a Corporal presents a negative opinion they have about one of your interests, not only will they go to infinite lengths to find or even make up reasons why they hate this subject, but they will also chastise you personally for showing general interest at all in this subject and tell you it's wrong to be a fan of whatever subject you chose. And in many prominent cases, if the child in question is particularly young, typically 14-16 years old or so, the chances will most likely be that they don't have a valid case to back their own opinion up with, meaning they've done no further research on this subject, and they end up brainwashed that this thing they're a fan of will result in them facing an outward punishment.

Let me present an example. Let's say you're a huuuge fan of Pokemon, and you've made so much progress that all of your team is practically unstoppable and there's an even bigger team in your Pokemon Center computer's BOXes. Curious about what on God's Green Earth Pokemon is, your aunt/grandmother/mother or uncle/grandfather/father or whatever corporal guardian you somehow came to live with inquires you about it. You explain to them that it's a monster raising RPG in which you use ball-shaped capsules called PokeBalls to capture Pokemon, raise their happiness and have them fight other trainer's own Pokemon, or other wild Pokemon, the ultimate goal being to collect eight different badges and challenge a supreme group of trainers called the Elite Four.

"Wait a minute!" says your corporal guardian. "You collect MONSTERS?! Like as in, creatures from Hell?!" "Uh, no... they're not from Hell... they're just the dimensional equivalent of Earth's own animal kingdom, with the exception of learning different Moves that they fight with."

"Moves? What do you mean by Moves?" "In Pokemon, Moves is the term used for the different methods of attacking that Pokemon can use." Eventually, you elaborate on this matter, stating that each Pokemon has their own elemental "Type", and some Pokemon can even have up to two different Types. You go through the whole list of Types; Fire, Water, Grass, Ground, Rock, Fighting, Psychic, Electric, Ice, Ghost, Bug, Poison, Fairy and Dark.

"What was that last one?!" "Dark type? It's not the kind of 'dark' you think it is, just means that those kinds of Pokemon live in sha--" "I don't want to hear it! We're returning that game tomorrow, and I don't want you ever associating with anything that has to do with this game again!"

You see what the most outstanding problem is?! The guardian cuts you off before you have a chance to solidify your opinion and explain why there's more to it than what they see on the surface, shuts down and refuses to hear anything more about it. They might as well be duct taping your lips together! It's THESE kinds of people that make me want to spit fire and lava on their faces! Holy Superman on a bicycle!

2. Unrealistic Expectations (or, "Skyscraper Goals"): This trope is probably more common out of any others out there. What happens with this one is a guardian will sit you down for a talk (and in the case of my Aunt who unfortunately suffers the curse of Arthritis and only %42 blood flow to her brain, God Bless her...), and it starts out friendly, but as a more important matter pertaining to you approaches, the tone turns suddenly gritty and serious, even somewhat angry, probably due to a previous event that saw you failing in such a goal. Eventually they will explain how "important" to you this goal is and essentially end the conversation (or debate) with a message like "Next time you go to school, I want NOTHING but straight A's, or you're grounded for a month." or more along the lines of "If I don't see every inch of your room clean in five minutes, I'm taking EVERYTHING out of it and leaving only the mattress to your bed."

SERIOUSLY?! If there's ONE THING on this blue planet I can't bear to stand for more than a nanosecond, it's people who believe that any human has the ability to achieve perfection and exacerbate it somehow. WAKE UP! There is not one mortal human being on this earth that is absolutely flawless in every sense of the word except for the Almighty Creator Himself (who I will not name in respect for this site's rules, if doing so somehow violates any rules here applying to religion). If humans WERE perfect, we wouldn't even need an Earth to live on. When people use the word "perfect" in contexts applying to a task that requires handiwork, they're not saying you can't make ANY mistakes whatsoever, they're just saying you at least need to make your work look clean enough . Humans are going to make mistakes in pretty much any area of productivity, whether it's productive or not, and no amount of effort put into our work before we start it is going to let us foresee these events before they happen. Sure, we can possibly ANTICIPATE these possible mistakes before they happen, but nothing we do can stop them from happening at all.

So if a Corporal is reading this, tl;dr if you want, but I've done my research.

3. Excessive Dominance Demonstration/Unrealistic Supremecy: You might be a little confused at this one if you haven't heard these words used in the same sentence before, but that's what explanations are for. This is when a corporal will assert to you that not only are they the one(s) running the house and making its rules (however unrealistic and shapeless they may be), but because they are willing and legally able to set these rules, they are ALWAYS right, and YOU are ALWAYS in the wrong, regardless of what your side of the story is. Before you learn how unfair this is, it doesn't matter WHAT you do to prove this is incorrect, WHAT sort of case you present to them or HOW you are able to justify your actions in any way; regardless of what, if any, possible answers you may have to their questions, they will almost always disagree with you, disprove the truth behind your answers, or if they're feeling enough like a pompous ass, they'll make up a reason why you're wrong, just as an attempt to feel like the most powerful being in the world.

Now that my fingers are practically rigid by typing so much, I need to let them rest for a minute. I'll continue to add more to this list as I think of more things I've noticed.
 
Sounds like a lot of authority figures I've dealt with in my life. Especially the part about being cut off and not allowed to explain fully.
 
I don't know I guess some people just like to step on other peoples dreams?
I have noticed over time they have excuses but the excuses don't match up...perhaps it is just a need for power thing?
The damage never seems to be worth the result they wanted.
Maybe it is better to just ignore them if possible, and live life the best way you know how to?
 
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I am familiar with this, but fortunately in my case, it was expressed out of anger and they would repent.

I find that the more people try harsh methods to impose control and "perfection" the more chaotic they are inside.
 
I had a teacher like this once, but other than that the only other person I've met like this is my uncle that I rarely see. I eventually lost my temper at that teacher, so I climbed on top of a cupboard that was out of her reach and started throwing pencils at her. Eventually the school had to call my parents because they couldn't pull me down without risking breaking my neck, then when my parents showed up they got into an argument with the teacher and she never spoke to me again.
My uncle is ex-military, and he literally rules his family with an iron fist. Once when his daughter broke up with her boyfriend (on good terms) he went to the boys house, kicked in the door and threatened to kill him and his whole family. He got out of it because of his military background though.
 

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