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Bad memory affecting relationship?

AutieMum

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This is a tricky one to explain. Sorry it's so long...

I'm on the spectrum and was married to aspie husband, which ended in 2012. We have an aspie son. Since the marriage ended, I've dated a few people and have finally found someone really special.

I'd introduced one previous partner to my son since marriage ended (let's call him Mr P) and one night Mr P had stayed over. Despite discussing it with my son, and son agreeing it was ok, it upset son quite a bit. I regretted doing that, especially when the relationship later ended. (It upsets my aspie son a lot, to have too much change in his life.) But it was my mistake and I have to live with it, and make sure I do the best to protect my son now.

Now...

New partner, of around a year, (let's call him Mr H) is quite sensitive about past partners, so I try not to ever mention them. (In fact, I don't like talking about my past partners, as I feel it's irrelevant and discourteous to all concerned.) But I'm never quite sure what I can and can't say to him, about my previous life. (Aspie 'honesty' means I want to fully disclose, but don't really understand what I can/can't say.) So I never told him that Mr P had stayed over (to my recollection). Mr H must have assumed that Mr P never stayed over, and I really don't remember us discussing it in depth. If we did, and I said he hadn't stayed over, then I've completely forgotten it.

So...

Recently, aspie son got upset about me having Mr H in my life. And I told Mr H about son being upset, and said we needed to manage that carefully. But I also mentioned that Mr P had stayed over once before.

Mr H is now devastated that I 'lied' to him, and says our relationship isn't special - he isn't the first to be in my and my son's life, in that way. But I don't remember the conversation between Mr H and myself. I'm sure I wouldn't have said specifically that Mr P never stayed over - because it's not my nature to tell out-and-out lies.

Mr H feels betrayed. He'd assumed he was the most important person in my life, in the last few years. But I genuinely don't remember us having talked about this previous partner (Mr P). I have a vague memory that I may have omitted details about past relationships - to spare Mr H's feelings - but not this exact example.

Am I going mad? Is this kind of memory loss common? Or am I just being stupid?

I really want to fix things between us (everything else is so great) but have no idea how to explain that I actually don't remember having discussed it. It will sound lame, and like a lie. So I've just 'shutdown' and said I can't talk about it.

These things make me start thinking that I'm not fit for relationships. I don't get the rules. I don't get what I can/can't say. I don't understand how people can be so different - different rules for each partner. It makes me want to just be on my own. But I love this new partner deeply, and he's a wonderful man.

Any thoughts appreciated. But please be kind - I'm genuine and very upset.
 
Well, my first impression of the situation is that you probably didn't specifically tell Mr. H that Mr. P had stayed over. If Mr. H is like most NTs, he assumed that some things you said implied that you had never had an intimate relationship with Mr. P.

Most people (by that I mean virtually all NTs) genuinely cannot tell the difference between not disclosing a thing which they feel you should disclose and actually lying about that thing. I suspect that is what is happening with Mr. H.

What you can do now is try to reassure Mr. H that the misunderstanding was accidental and that you never meant to deceive him. Clearly the staying over bit has bigger implications for Mr. H than you expected; try to find out what is behind that. Perhaps he has a serious objection to sex outside of marriage, and he assumed that you'd never done that. Whatever it is, try to understand his issue with the stayover and show him that you understand and respect it.
 
This is a tricky one to explain. Sorry it's so long...

I'm on the spectrum and was married to aspie husband, which ended in 2012. We have an aspie son. Since the marriage ended, I've dated a few people and have finally found someone really special.

I'd introduced one previous partner to my son since marriage ended (let's call him Mr P) and one night Mr P had stayed over. Despite discussing it with my son, and son agreeing it was ok, it upset son quite a bit. I regretted doing that, especially when the relationship later ended. (It upsets my aspie son a lot, to have too much change in his life.) But it was my mistake and I have to live with it, and make sure I do the best to protect my son now.

Now...

New partner, of around a year, (let's call him Mr H) is quite sensitive about past partners, so I try not to ever mention them. (In fact, I don't like talking about my past partners, as I feel it's irrelevant and discourteous to all concerned.) But I'm never quite sure what I can and can't say to him, about my previous life. (Aspie 'honesty' means I want to fully disclose, but don't really understand what I can/can't say.) So I never told him that Mr P had stayed over (to my recollection). Mr H must have assumed that Mr P never stayed over, and I really don't remember us discussing it in depth. If we did, and I said he hadn't stayed over, then I've completely forgotten it.

So...

Recently, aspie son got upset about me having Mr H in my life. And I told Mr H about son being upset, and said we needed to manage that carefully. But I also mentioned that Mr P had stayed over once before.

Mr H is now devastated that I 'lied' to him, and says our relationship isn't special - he isn't the first to be in my and my son's life, in that way. But I don't remember the conversation between Mr H and myself. I'm sure I wouldn't have said specifically that Mr P never stayed over - because it's not my nature to tell out-and-out lies.

Mr H feels betrayed. He'd assumed he was the most important person in my life, in the last few years. But I genuinely don't remember us having talked about this previous partner (Mr P). I have a vague memory that I may have omitted details about past relationships - to spare Mr H's feelings - but not this exact example.

Am I going mad? Is this kind of memory loss common? Or am I just being stupid?

I really want to fix things between us (everything else is so great) but have no idea how to explain that I actually don't remember having discussed it. It will sound lame, and like a lie. So I've just 'shutdown' and said I can't talk about it.

These things make me start thinking that I'm not fit for relationships. I don't get the rules. I don't get what I can/can't say. I don't understand how people can be so different - different rules for each partner. It makes me want to just be on my own. But I love this new partner deeply, and he's a wonderful man.

Any thoughts appreciated. But please be kind - I'm genuine and very upset.
I have only been used and called names in my more bigger serious relationships that only lasted 1 week maybe 2 weeks at the most. Right now i enjoy and im happy with the single life. And i don,t think your going mad and I don,t think your being stupid i just think your ways or tactis could be a little better butyour doing fine we all make mistakes and mess up and thats just a part of life and its nothing to be concerned about as long as we try to better ourselfs and learn from our mistakes then we are doing alot better in life already. I wish you the very best :)
 
Thanks for your response, OFelixCulpa. Both Mr H and I have had previous partners (and neither of us are bothered by that knowledge - we each have kids from a previous marriage, and most of us Brits aren't bothered about sex before marriage!). But we do our best not to talk about past partners too much, especially as Mr H is v sensitive about knowing details of each other's pasts. I completely agree with that, and find gossiping about past partners really disloyal to all involved. But that understanding means I've held some information back, to not hurt him. And I find it hard to know what info I should and shouldn't share. (I can overshare, or undershare - and seem to always get it wrong... It gets me down.)

I've tried to reassure him that it's a genuine mistake, as you've said. He's been hurt and lied to a lot, and was worried I was doing the same. I get why he was so upset, and have tried to empathise with that (not easy, as I don't think and feel the same). But I think he also understands now that it was a genuine mistake, that I never meant to hurt him, and that I struggle knowing what I can/can't say to him. Although he's still hurting (and so am I) we think we can repair it and move on.

Thanks again for your thoughts!
 
Thanks for your response, Gary. I'm sorry to hear you've had tough times in relationships. Guess it happens to us all sometime! I do hope things improve for you.

Like many aspies/autistics, I work hard on my tact but it still doesn't seem to be enough. A blunt autistic matched with a sensitive NT may not be a good match (in that respect) although an infinite number of other things are so great for us. I feel really lucky to have met him. We work on so many levels, and are deeply in love. Which is why I so want to make it right, and try to help repair his (and our) hurt feelings.
 
Thanks for your response, Gary. I'm sorry to hear you've had tough times in relationships. Guess it happens to us all sometime! I do hope things improve for you.

Like many aspies/autistics, I work hard on my tact but it still doesn't seem to be enough. A blunt autistic matched with a sensitive NT may not be a good match (in that respect) although an infinite number of other things are so great for us. I feel really lucky to have met him. We work on so many levels, and are deeply in love. Which is why I so want to make it right, and try to help repair his (and our) hurt feelings.
as long as you 2 try to work together and care about each other i think it will be a Good and long lasting relationship for you two. I wish you two all the very best :)
 

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