Beware of Bullies Pretending To Be Good People

[KevinMao133]

While I won’t pretend I’m 100% good as I’m highly opinionated as well as controversial. If I am tired of something, or seeing something, I will speak out

This post isn’t about me, it was never intended that way

Anyways, be careful of people pretending to be good when in fact they are jerks. A lot of people think NTs are bullies but the truth is autistic people can be downright nasty too

I had to quit an autistic group due to an incident that involved me. I got into a heated argument, even though I won’t disclosed what I said or didn’t say. One person kept calling me clown, incel, whatever. I’m a nice person at heart and my opinions don’t come from nothing. I do my research and have proof to back everything up, including my personal experience

So anyways, be careful out there. Just because you met an autistic person doesn’t mean you two will connect. Don’t be naive to think all autistics are friendly, some aren’t

Family first, yourself first, like minded folks first. Just want to spread awareness so more people can live a happy life

 

[lunarious]

Good

I have this view that between two Ranks ... are space ... so one of them is higher Rank, although everyone could get access to the Garden, however the Garden lacks staff

So there's space between a higher or Lower rank, and the space must be climbed if one wish rank, ... my faith tells me i'm supposed to be gentle to those with rank under me, although it's not an excuze but i've carried much burden like ... i need help

But i'm maybe Asperger's because i avoided bad friends. I do not have friends (why i'm Asperger's).

So i just wanted to comment, a feeling

 

[Neonatal RRT]

While I won’t pretend I’m 100% good as I’m highly opinionated as well as controversial. If I am tired of something, or seeing something, I will speak out

This post isn’t about me, it was never intended that way

Anyways, be careful of people pretending to be good when in fact they are jerks. A lot of people think NTs are bullies but the truth is autistic people can be downright nasty too

I had to quit an autistic group due to an incident that involved me. I got into a heated argument, even though I won’t disclosed what I said or didn’t say. One person kept calling me clown, incel, whatever. I’m a nice person at heart and my opinions don’t come from nothing. I do my research and have proof to back everything up, including my personal experience

So anyways, be careful out there. Just because you met an autistic person doesn’t mean you two will connect. Don’t be naive to think all autistics are friendly, some aren’t

Family first, yourself first, like minded folks first. Just want to spread awareness so more people can live a happy life

"....be careful of people pretending to be good, when, in fact, they are jerks...."

True. There are people like this walking amongst us. As autistics who may or may not be picking up on all the subtle nuances of verbal and non-verbal communication, we can be unwitting victims of people like this.

In today's world, where sociopaths, psychopaths, and malignant narcissists rise to power, be aware. If you hear words like, "Only I can solve this.". They are in it for themselves, and themselves alone.

"If you pretend to be good, the world takes you seriously. If you pretend to be bad, it doesn't. Such is the outstanding stupidity of optimism."...Oscar Wilde

 

[blitzkrieg]

I have met plenty of downright awful autistic folk over the years, sometimes on autistic forums (though not this one).

I just consider it a part of life. There are good people, there are bad people - and bad people who think they are good people.

 

[lunarious]

Take time to your help. We mustn't judge quickly. We must be patient. ... me too ..

 

[velociraptor]

So anyways, be careful out there. Just because you met an autistic person doesn’t mean you two will connect. Don’t be naive to think all autistics are friendly, some aren’t

We Aspies tend to be rule driven, but don't share the same rules. Great source of conflict right there.

 

[lunarious]

I wish it was so easy ... maybe it is?

 

[Kayla55]

Just because society has adapted to new trends doesn't mean in heart they have changed. I liked Anna and the king, I never agreed with bruce-lee wife and when comes down to deporting immigrants it's clear nothing about slavery changed, just took new face.
About museum dispute, well if we took music, social influence, martial arts and sex into account the British museum look whole lot emptier than Netherlands stolen artifacts.!!!!
If you allow fashion models on runway to upset you, well lesson on how fake media is and how dumb most are.
This is why I went back to living in my own world, not listening to mainstream

 

[Kayla55]

Seriously when I go over some aspects of myself it's not always what read somewhere, it can be apart of you, history, suffering and getting to heart of philosophy. When one quotes another person they acknowledge this as opposed to the ego driving those who sought to obtain power, but yet lack wisdom and love to go with.
Sadly some of us are really cursed with having to live with way others are.

 

[Judge]

I'd be wary of just about anyone literally claiming to be "a good person" (whatever that really means) if that's what they rely upon just to back up their opinions.

That a truly "good person" (?) wouldn't need to assert themselves in such a manner.

 

[Kayla55]

I'd be wary of just about anyone literally claiming to be "a good person" (whatever that really means) if that's what they rely upon just to back up their opinions.

That a truly "good person" (?) wouldn't need to assert themselves in such a manner.

At first when reached forum I believed there to be more open mindedness, but as I said on another thread I think most austistic people are influenced by political narrative of home land.
At least this was my perception.

 

[Judge]

At first when reached forum I believed there to be more open mindedness, but as I said on another thread I think most autistic people are influenced by political narrative of home land.
At least this was my perception.

Interesting.

However personally I doubt the neurodiverse are any different than neurotypicals with such considerations. Whatever their reasoning may be , whether based on politics, religion or a sense of ethics. That in any case, a truly "good person"doesn't need to assert themselves in such a manner.

 

[lunarious]

Interesting.

However personally I doubt the neurodiverse are any different than neurotypicals with such considerations.

Whatever their reasoning may be , whether based on politics, religion or a sense of ethics. Perhaps worse on occasion if and when it involves a combination of them.

Truth is likely in middle between you to. I had / have a book which says Asperger's population has less criminality than other humans population.

 

[Kayla55]

Interesting.

However personally I doubt the neurodiverse are any different than neurotypicals with such considerations. Whatever their reasoning may be , whether based on politics, religion or a sense of ethics. That in any case, a truly "good person"doesn't need to assert themselves in such a manner.

Absolutely,
For years I felt people believed I was good due to stoic belief that I had no other way, and it's difficult to explain how one sees the world ...
And most interesting to understand Elon musk and what his true potential is, disappointed to see he can't fight back.

 

[Judge]

I had / have a book which says Asperger's population has less criminality than other humans population.

According to this source it would appear that there isn't really sufficient data to truly make such conclusions. Also mathematically consider that our poorly measured ranks are assessed by the CDC at only 1.8% of the population. Then further factor in how many of us may not even be statistically accounted for by any metric at all.

That we constitute such a small number of people in society that it's unlikely that we are properly accounted for on a statistical basis over much of any consideration. Yet the results accounted for so far certainly didn't look so promising either. Even then we don't know if this is based accurate reasonable suspicion of law enforcement, or ignorance to understand autistic traits and behaviors.

That in essence there are too many variables in play to accurately project crime statistics relative to autistic persons at this time.

"There has been growing interest in offending and contact with the criminal justice system (CJS) by people with autism spectrum disorder (ASD). However, it is not clear whether people with ASD offend more than those without ASD. Studies have started to look at whether there are particular offences people with ASD are more likely to commit and whether there are any factors that can affect whether someone comes into contact with the CJS as a potential suspect. This study looked at the patients who attended an ASD diagnostic service over a 17-year period to see the rate of contact with the CJS of those who were diagnosed with ASD and whether there were any particular factors that might increase the risk of CJS contact. Nearly a quarter of the ASD group had some contact with the CJS as a potential suspect."

Adults with autism spectrum disorder and the criminal justice system: An investigation of prevalence of contact with the criminal justice system, risk factors and sex differences in a specialist assessment service

 

[Kayla55]

I think difference is circumstance and prosecutor takes that into account. Was it reactive violence or self defence of one's rights?
Was it stealing food or planning to never work again (fraud)
Did perpetrator consider effects on innocent people?

Elon musk is like dog that eats its own commit, but I'm sure he could opt out after his last 10 million to live comfy, then show world cause for others?
I don't believe what I see in media anymore, who knows what people do to get ahead

 

[Boogs]

I recall an article on the UK prison population, where they found the prevalence of ASD diagnoses was about 10 times that of the normal population. I wish I could recall where and reference it (and check my recall).

But it doesn't correlate criminality to ASD by any means, and I'd suspect a significant number were wrongly found guilty by juries unconvinced by their testimony in court, or were maybe more vulnerable to manipulation into criminal acts. That's just my personal guess though.

Also, I suspect that if there's a difference between ND's and NT's when it comes to breaking the law, the difference would be more in the kind of crimes committed rather than either group being more or less inclined to criminality.

Criminality is a complex aspect of society, with many roots and many motivations, and there are a great many different types of criminal, some of whom I'd trust more than certain upstanding pillars of the community.

As for a truly good person, I'm not sure such a beast exists in any kind of objective fashion. It's maybe easier to define a truly bad person, but even then, a level of subjectivity will always colour the view.
Rather than judge what a person is, I prefer to try and judge what they say and do, but the people themselves are usually much more complex than being 'good' or 'bad' and to label as such may be uninformative, even misleading.

 

[Kayla55]

I think young people still finding out who they are, may be overwhelmed by social or sensory.....haven't figured it all out. However self absorbed I never expected judgement for low functioning around morality rate, this is almost like as bad as some of careless woke statements, by general public.
I'm still yet to understand half attitude why at times a woke statement is bad, maybe sometimes people haven't really thought about what they saying and what it means

 

[WK6824Nine]

As for a truly good person, I'm not sure such a beast exists in any kind of objective fashion. It's maybe easier to define a truly bad person

Yes, its part of why i don't call myself a good person

 

[WK6824Nine]

I have met plenty of downright awful autistic folk over the years, sometimes on autistic forums (though not this one).

I just consider it a part of life. There are good people, there are bad people - and bad people who think they are good people.

like yin and yang