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Collective unconscious and magick tricks

Tanya

Tanya

spirit gardener
My thoughts on the collective unconscious. It consists of the spirits of the dead who are able to manipulate the living through symbolism, tarot, psychic phenomena etc. What they tell you may or may not be the truth. They may string you along to gain your trust though.. Beyond the collective unconscious lies truth and God however. You can still learn a lot from the collective unconscious, but should not take it as gospel. This is something I realised recently, when I came to the conclusion I was being played by the collective unconscious. Now I am on the search for something deeper - finding God.
 
If there is such a thing as the collective unconscious then at the bottom of it is God? May I ask how you communicate with it?
 
AspieP post: 270922 said:
If there is such a thing as the collective unconscious then at the bottom of it is God? May I ask how you communicate with it?
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Through prayer I suppose. I know that now you will say that's the collective unconscious, but I think it's different. It's direct contact as opposed to being affected by other influences.
 
Why the spirits of the dead? Why not the spirits of the living?

Also, what are spirits?

If something can do all that, what keeps it from being a god?
 
Well the spirits of the living are also a part of the collective unconscious. I would say none of us whether living or dead are completely good or perfect so we are not God. Only God is.
 
The standard Jungian definition of collective unconscious differs from
what has been stated here. I am more comfortable with the standard
concept. It's similar to saying "dogs think dog thoughts," while "cats
think cat thoughts," & "humans think human thoughts,"...etc. I am
simplifying.
 
What may seem godlike from a perspective of this plane of existence may well be commonplace on another plane of existence.

After all, the only perception we have here is based exclusively on our mortal existence. Except perhaps for a few of us, who for whatever reason have witnessed things which may have transcended one dimension to another.
 
Judge said:
What may seem godlike from a perspective of this plane of existence may well be commonplace on another plane of existence.

After all, the only perception we have here is based exclusively on our mortal existence. Except perhaps for a few of us, who for whatever reason have witnessed things which may have transcended one dimension to another.
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Yes I know.. Beings from the other plan have let me see them at times? Also is there any proof Slendy Man is real?
 
Judge
"What may seem godlike from a perspective of this plane of existence
may well be commonplace on another plane of existence."

Similar to what I used to think when I saw our buck goat trying to figure out
how to get his chain unwound from the tree. He would follow a simple strategy
briefly. Go one way. Then when that didn't immediately get him where he wanted
to be, he'd go the other way. He just didn't have the attention span/memory to
keep in mind the pattern of the situation.
 
tree said:
Judge
"What may seem godlike from a perspective of this plane of existence
may well be commonplace on another plane of existence."

Similar to what I used to think when I saw our buck goat trying to figure out
how to get his chain unwound from the tree. He would follow a simple strategy
briefly. Go one way. Then when that didn't immediately get him where he wanted
to be, he'd go the other way. He just didn't have the attention span/memory to
keep in mind the pattern of the situation.
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I love Goats... The problem is is there anything above us really.. I believe there is but if there isn't?
 
tree said:
Judge
"What may seem godlike from a perspective of this plane of existence
may well be commonplace on another plane of existence."

Similar to what I used to think when I saw our buck goat trying to figure out
how to get his chain unwound from the tree. He would follow a simple strategy
briefly. Go one way. Then when that didn't immediately get him where he wanted
to be, he'd go the other way. He just didn't have the attention span/memory to
keep in mind the pattern of the situation.
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Frankly I was thinking of considerably more profound things. Like a conscious observation of physics being made a mockery of. Witnessing something which reflects that time and space are elastic, as well as life and death. To see the same entity materialize and dematerialize before me.

Why some of us are privy to witnessing such things I don't really know.
 
Tanya said:
My thoughts on the collective unconscious. It consists of the spirits of the dead who are able to manipulate the living through symbolism, tarot, psychic phenomena etc. What they tell you may or may not be the truth. They may string you along to gain your trust though.. Beyond the collective unconscious lies truth and God however. You can still learn a lot from the collective unconscious, but should not take it as gospel. This is something I realised recently, when I came to the conclusion I was being played by the collective unconscious. Now I am on the search for something deeper - finding God.
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Collective unconscious has nothing to do with ghosts??? http://www.carl-jung.net/collective_unconscious.html
 
[QUdon't"Hedgehog Instigator, post: 272869, member: 11794"]Yes but that doesn't justify misappropriating terms. What you're talking about is spiritualist belief.[/QUOTE]

I dont know why you are arguing with me. I simply stated my opinion. In science, theorists build on other theories. That's how progress is made. People can choose to believe what I write , or not. Just like they can choose to agree with Jung or not.
 
Tanya said:
[QUdon't"Hedgehog Instigator, post: 272869, member: 11794"]Yes but that doesn't justify misappropriating terms. What you're talking about is spiritualist belief.
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I dont know why you are arguing with me. I simply stated my opinion. In science, theorists build on other theories. That's how progress is made. People can choose to believe what I write , or not. Just like they can choose to agree with Jung or not.[/QUOTE]

Not arguing just pointing out that you are using the wrong term. I know psychology is a soft science, but some of it is pretty specific.
 
Hedgehog Instigator said:
I dont know why you are arguing with me. I simply stated my opinion. In science, theorists build on other theories. That's how progress is made. People can choose to believe what I write , or not. Just like they can choose to agree with Jung or not.
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Not arguing just pointing out that you are using the wrong term. I know psychology is a soft science, but some of it is pretty specific.[/QUOTE]

That is, of course, assuming that all the science and psychology theories out there are correct.
 
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