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Concerned Stepdad Looking For Advice

JasonSD

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I hope I'm not way off base as far as the intention of this website and forum, but I am a stepdad to an 8 year old boy and I am basically looking for guidance/advice on both identifying if he is on the spectrum, and having that conversation with his mom.

I don't want to go into too much detail if this is completely the wrong place for this. Maybe some replies to this thread can help point me in the right direction to where I might be able to get some support in these things. Or if there is another site out there that might have what I'm looking for.

I look forward to being a part of the forum.

Jason
 
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@JasonSD
You might want to try using the Search box function,
entering the word 'diagnosis' to find some threads on the
topic.

Or just skimming the various sections of the forum to
see what interests you.

Members here generally try to be helpful.
 
Hello @JasonSD,

Read and research as much as you can handle.

Quietly observe step son,

Try to always include mum in this.

Might I ask, was there one thing or several that pointed you in the direction of autism with your step son?
 
Hello @JasonSD,

Read and research as much as you can handle.

Quietly observe step son,

Try to always include mum in this.

Might I ask, was there one thing or several that pointed you in the direction of autism with your step son?

These are the things I have noticed that have made me question this:

- He is very concerned with routine and things being done the same way all the time. He threw a fit not too long ago because his sister poured milk in his bowl before she poured the cereal in.

- He obsesses over doing something and will not drop it until that thing is done. He got money from my mother for his birthday and he kept asking us to get his piggy bank down off of a high shelf so he could put it in there. We were making dinner at the time so we told him we'd help him with it later. He asked a few more times, and we kept telling him he'd have to wait. Then he started looking around the house and we asked him what he was looking for and he said a stepstool, so he could get his piggy bank and put the money in it. He gets set on these things and will not rest or do anything else until it is done.

- If something is outside of the norm, he obsesses over it. If you use the microwave and forget to clear remaining cook time, so it says 1:13 for example, he will continue to observe and mention that the microwave says 1:13, but the oven says (whatever the actual time is). He will keep doing this until the microwave is cleared so it displays the time.

- He is obsessed with video games and talks about them non-stop if he is not actually playing them. He will stay up all night playing them if we do not take his devices and make him go to sleep. He comes up with very detailed and drawn out scenarios in his head surrounding the games he plays when he is not playing them. It gets to the point where we have to ask him to stop talking about it because he just goes on and on and you can't get anything done like cooking dinner or cleaning because he is following you around explaining in detail this video game scenario.

- Sleep is another issue. He often tries to delay bedtime as much as possible, and when he does go to bed, we often hear him talking, singing, or otherwise making noise until he finally falls asleep, sometimes hours later.

- Sleep, among other things have causes issues at school, as his teacher has told us that he falls asleep in class, lies down on the floor at inappropriate times, and is otherwise defiant and not cooperative because he is tired. We moved his bedtime up 30 minutes due to this feedback, but because of the point above, it hasn't really made much difference.

- We periodically get reports from the teacher about behavior problems at school, however this has been less and less as time has gone on. My concern is that the teacher has stopped trying or at least stopped telling us about it. He tells us things she says to him like we should take away his video games, so part of my concern is that maybe she is mistreating him because of his behavior, but not truly addressing it with us.

- Over the last couple years, our family has suffered losses of one close family member as well as two beloved family pets. Our other two children, and my wife and myself were emotional and upset at these losses. When we had to break the news of these things to the kids, he would either make comments that were seemingly unrelated, or just wanted to know when we would be 'done' so he could play. I have never seen him cry or be upset about something like this. I think I've only seen him cry out of frustration/anger or when he is in trouble.

- He seems to have trouble showing affection. Our 10 year old will cuddle with us, loves hugs, as does our increasingly independent 14 year old. I don't know if I've ever seen him seek out affection from me or his mom or dad. He also makes us nervous with out he is with our pets. He is attempting to love them but seems to pet them extra hard and manhandle them to the point where they just run away from him.

- It often takes him a long time to get thoughts out. He kind of stutters and stammers and says "umm-a, umm-a" a lot between words. His speech does not seem as fluid as other kids his age.

- More recently, it came to light that he had not been wiping after going #2. He also avoids brushing his teeth and bathing/showering if he can, and he lies about if he has brushed his teeth.


Sorry for the lengthy list/post. I am sure there are more things I have noticed but they aren't coming to me right now. As far as involving his mom, that is where I am struggling. She has a friend with an autistic son and has commented to me how she admires her friend and didn't know how she could do it, and that she was glad her kids were 'normal'. I believe she will take it very hard and lash out at me if I bring this up to her and I have been trying to figure out a way to do it.

Having not had kids prior to this marriage, I have had a hard time deciding if any of these are truly signs of him being on the spectrum, or if he is just an 8 year old, and a boy at that (we boys have a reputation of being more difficult than our sisters ;) ).
 
I'd say that this is a pretty good place for your intention. After all, who knows about autism better than us autistics? :)

It sounds like he could be autistic but obviously he'd have to be assessed professionally to know for sure. As far as talking to his mum is concerned, obviously a lot of people see autism as a negative thing so it's likely she'd react as such.

I think maybe if you keep a note of his behaviour and find some reputable sources online (not autism speaks) about traits and then present it to her at a time where she's in a good mood, that would probably be the best approach. And of course, if you show her this huge community of us, it may change her perspective if it is infact negative. (it may not be but society's made me cynical! :P )

Good luck :) I hope you find some answers.
 
If you are in the USA, teachers often are legally prohibited from recommending that a child be evaluated. However, if you ask them, they can have a school counselor or another professional observe and assess the child in school. They can also point you to community and professional resources.

You should definitely not do this without your wife's knowledge or consent, but you don't have to say, "I'm looking for autism" or "I think it's this." You can just say, for example,"What do you think about asking a school counselor to evaluate him, so we can figure out how to work with him?"
 
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I'd say that this is a pretty good place for your intention. After all, who knows about autism better than us autistics? :)

It sounds like he could be autistic but obviously he'd have to be assessed professionally to know for sure. As far as talking to his mum is concerned, obviously a lot of people see autism as a negative thing so it's likely she'd react as such.

I think maybe if you keep a note of his behaviour and find some reputable sources online (not autism speaks) about traits and then present it to her at a time where she's in a good mood, that would probably be the best approach. And of course, if you show her this huge community of us, it may change her perspective if it is infact negative. (it may not be but society's made me cynical! :p )

Good luck :) I hope you find some answers.

Thank you. Do you have any recommendations of good sources? I have done some Google searches but obviously you never know what you are getting. I have gone over and over how to approach this with her and I really do think that if I come from a place of just caring about him and wanting to help him, she will understand, even if she is upset at first. Love the avatar, by the way!

If you are in the USA, teachers often are legally prohibited from recommending that a child be evaluated. However, if you ask them, they can have a school counselor or another professional observe and assess the child in school. They can also point you to community and professional resources.

You should definitely not do this without your wife's knowledge or consent, but you don't have to say, "I'm looking for autism" or "I think it's this." You can just say, for example,"What do you think about asking a school counselor to evaluate him, so we can figure out how to work with him?"

That is a good idea about the counselor. As bad as this sounds, I was kind of hoping the behavior issues at school would continue to give me more of an opportunity to bring this up and make a suggestion like this. But we have been getting fewer reports about him, though he just had conferences and he had areas of improvement on almost everything related to being in class, paying attention and doing what he needs to do. Yet when his mom came home from the conferences she said they were good and got him ice cream... So I feel like there is a little denial on her end too. I almost feel like when I do bring this up to her, she is going to break down and admit to me she has had the same thoughts.

@JasonSD

Your posting describes classic traits of autism and possibly Aspergers - reminds me of Temple Grandin. One in your list, challenges with empathy is frequently not noticed by schools as the boy might not encounter something as significant as a death while being observed.

I am glad to know I am not crazy or just not used to kids (though I had none prior to this relationship). The only kids I have to contrast him with are our other 2 and other kids at his school. I have known our youngest daughter since she was 8, and her behavior was incredibly different at that age than his is, other than differing personalities. He is clearly not as developed at this age as most kids are. His mom mentioned that he started 1st grade a year late because he 'needed more time to cook' but even though he is academically strong, he is not at the level of the other 2nd graders.

Oddly enough, he brought up death and funerals last night. He was talking about the recent deaths we've had in the family, that when they happened, he was sad, but he didn't cry. He just kept repeating that he was sad, but didn't cry, and that he didn't know why. So I think he is maybe starting to pick up on these differences between himself and others as well, so the time may be right to approach his parents about it.
 

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