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Aspergers_Aspie

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I am taking keyboard lessons and I sometimes enjoy watching youtube but I am confused by this video and don't know what to make of it, please would any others here have opinions on it? cheers

 
I couldn't get through the video, too many commercials. It's maddening when the video stops again and again to play commercials. Youtube sucks!

But from what I could see, some people didn't want to be filmed so they called the police? Not sure what the law says about that in the UK, here where I live it's not legal to film people if they say no to being filmed. But calling the police because someone is filming in a mall and you're in the background is a little over the top. The police probably have much better things to spend time on.
 
This channel is classic, where he showcases random passersby with surprising talent. This particular video is a snapshot of the world you live in, where joy and friendship are criminalized. Then, turn on the news tonight, and see what's legal. Also, props to him for answering her attitude with assertiveness and not even getting arrested. I'm glad the UK is not the US. Yet.
 
Forest Cat said:
I couldn't get through the video, too many commercials. It's maddening when the video stops again and again to play commercials. Youtube sucks!

But from what I could see, some people didn't want to be filmed so they called the police? Not sure what the law says about that in the UK, here where I live it's not legal to film people if they say no to being filmed. But calling the police because someone is filming in a mall and you're in the background is a little over the top. The police probably have much better things to spend time on.
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Sorry to hear that, here is a link:-

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...n-kavanagh-chinese-tourists-row-b1134381.html
 
Aspergers_Aspie said:
Sorry to hear that, here is a link:-

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/...n-kavanagh-chinese-tourists-row-b1134381.html
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My father is from Cuba and I don't get along with him. That's all I'll say on the topic. It can be filed under "family", not "Levitator is a grandstanding political jerk who is disrupting the dialogue".

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If the UK has not made any relevant statute law, then it is probably still in line with other common law jurisdictions in that there is no legal expectation of privacy in public places. Several such jurisdictions (I have checked in the past w.r.t. Australian law as it pertains to photography) have a number of existing criminal laws that address the taking and use of unauthorised images for offensive purposes. Some of these include:
  • use of surveillance devices to record a ‘private activity’ without consent;
  • filming for indecent purposes;
  • making an image of a child engaged in a private act for prurient purposes;
  • making indecent visual images of a child under the age of 16;
  • committing indecent or offensive acts in a public place;
  • child pornography offences; and
  • using a telecommunications network or carriage service to facilitate certain offences.
Being caught in the background of filming of a piano recital (? - did not check the specifics of the video posted) does not appear to offend against any such provisions. However, most photographers and videographers these days are responsive to polite requests to cease from concerned members of the public. Unreasonable requests, e.g. “stop filming this event because I want to walk through the background and don’t want to be filmed”, would generally not get far legally. Unfortunately, unreasonable requests are often made by unreasonable people, greatly raising the chances the police will become involved.
 
AuAL said:
If the UK has not made any relevant statute law, then it is probably still in line with other common law jurisdictions in that there is no legal expectation of privacy in public places. Several such jurisdictions (I have checked in the past w.r.t. Australian law as it pertains to photography) have a number of existing criminal laws that address the taking and use of unauthorised images for offensive purposes. Some of these include:
  • use of surveillance devices to record a ‘private activity’ without consent;
  • filming for indecent purposes;
  • making an image of a child engaged in a private act for prurient purposes;
  • making indecent visual images of a child under the age of 16;
  • committing indecent or offensive acts in a public place;
  • child pornography offences; and
  • using a telecommunications network or carriage service to facilitate certain offences.
Being caught in the background of filming of a piano recital (? - did not check the specifics of the video posted) does not appear to offend against any such provisions. However, most photographers and videographers these days are responsive to polite requests to cease from concerned members of the public. Unreasonable requests, e.g. “stop filming this event because I want to walk through the background and don’t want to be filmed”, would generally not get far legally. Unfortunately, unreasonable requests are often made by unreasonable people, greatly raising the chances the police will become involved.
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This entire discussion would be a total farce where I'm from. The law is a bunch of text, but money and power talk way louder.
 
The text in the link you posted explains the situation well or as well as one can understand the situation from a third person. We don't really know what motivated each person to act that way. Once the police was involved, everybody involved had different arguments. I don't think you are missing anything that most people wouldn't. :)

My take: The hidden motive starting the issue appears to be a group of Chinese tourists not wanting to be filmed. China is a surveillance state. I have no idea what's was their issue but maybe fear. I don't often see tourist waving Chinese flags so maybe they were not random Chinese tourists. Who knows. The other people was just pissed because they were enjoying the piano. And the police, well, they are the police and were trying to diffuse the situation with a sprinkle of nonsense. Good thing it wasn't in the US since a Swat team and a lot of guns would have made an appearance. :) Those UK police look so innocent and unarmed.
 
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I think the piano player explained very well what happened. He and his friend are lawfully playing awesome boogey woogey and blues music on a public piano in a public place in the UK. Chinese tourists waiving CCP flags take offense to being filmed and initiate a public argument, hurling false allegations of "touching" and "racism" at the player. Law enforcement appears on the scene and breaks up the argument. Chinese tourists apparently get the message from the police that the player has the right to film in a public place and that the tourists should leave if they don't want to be filmed. Tourists leave. Player gets a zillion "likes" on his YouTube channel.

The only "touchy" person there was the head speaker for the tourists. Hopefully, he learned something about freedoms in the UK and the irrelevance of the CCP's wishes in the UK.

Anyway, that's my take on what happened.
 
All of man's dominions are poisoned by the same evil nature, and they all fall into the same gravity well, eventually, to take advantage of everyone else, and lie about what they stand for. They are all the same because they are all run by men.
 
Levitator said:
US police are professional in uniform, but that uniform is not sewn to their skin. Remember that.
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US police have nothing to do with this. China, Cuba and your home country of Mexico have no relevance whatsoever to this video or situation. This was filmed in the UNITED KINGDOM and those are British police.
 
Mary Terry said:
US police have nothing to do with this. China, Cuba and your home country of Mexico have no relevance whatsoever to this video or situation. This was filmed in the UNITED KINGDOM and those are British police.
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Someone else brought it up. This is my cue to let existence take its course. Have fun.
 
No, I'll bite because I'm a fool with poor impulse control. My dad left a secret family in Cuba which I didn't find out about until I was in my early thirties, and I only found out about them because they were released to him at the same time that US authorities started abusing the daylights out of me. That means the US and Cuba are closeted allies, and when they preach their AR-15-waving nationalism, and militant Christianity at you, the only thing they're telling the truth about is the foaming militancy. Now leave me alone.
 
No, and the really sick thing about this entire fiasco is that they knew me way better than I knew myself. I thought I could just talk to people and explain things, and they would understand, because that's not like a wild proposition or anything. But instead, I'm one of those people that goes "Look.... give me a... let me explain...", and they're doing nothing but lock me up and inject me with needles. That's what those monsters think of you. They think you're a useful tool, and when they're done using you like a Kleenex, your goofy face has a built-in gag because nobody respects you. They think you look stupid, they assume you're always mistaken. There are professional military-grade psychologists who know how to take advantage. They know what you're smart at, and they use that route to threaten you and gaslight you, and then when they're done, they know you lack the social standing to explain the complex and lunatic techniques they use to suggest and insinuate things to mess with you.
 
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Go watch a Beautiful Mind. That's what they did to Nash, and then they covered it up and claimed he was nuts. You know he's not nuts because he invented a branch of mathematics, but people will believe anything as long as it comes from authority. Nash, incidentally, believed he was corresponding with and passing notes to the FBI. I guarantee he was, and those spineless jellyfish left him up the creek.
 
@Levitator - I recommend that you start your own thread about your issues. People may have some useful input for you about your problems. Derailing other people's threads is not the right thing to do on this forum.
 
Mary Terry said:
@Levitator - I recommend that you start your own thread about your issues. People may have some useful input for you about your problems. Derailing other people's threads is not the right thing to do on this forum.
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Oh, I'm sorry, you're clearly the relevance referee. I was done anyway, and I'm way past asking for help. You're the ones who need help, because you won't listen to reason, and I don't know why I'm stupid enough to bite on these discussions when I know it never ends well for me. Everyone is always split between ignoring me, banning me, and joining the "you're an idiot/schizophrenic" lynch mob because they wash their hands faster than Pilate. Thanks. Well, I'm done. Have a nice life in hell, because I obeyed my conscience, and none of you do.
 
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