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could i be?

chinaski1000

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A few years ago a friend of mine mentioned a girl he had dated with aspbergers, and what he described sounded a lot like what I have gone through. I rather dismissed, and he dismissed it saying "you're not like this girl." Of course, he had only known me for awhile, and of course I was about 26 at the time. I'm 29 now.

I've struggled all my life to understand others, and to fit in. I became conscious of it in highschool, that I was always "adjusting" my behavior. Not like, "oh i'm an awkward teen learning to fit in," but that I was having to exert more effort than others to not seem so strange. I'd go through routines that I learned from people, and hit a blank wall when I ran out of material. I still do it, although i'm much better at being social, but I'm still awkward and find it hard.

My grandmother always brings up that when i was a kid, i didn't like to be touched, and I actually did go to speech therapy classes when I was 6. I had very poor verbal skills, and for most of my childhood up until my mid to late teens, I'd actually talk without moving my mouth or looking at people. I still talk monotonish, although it's not as bad (I think. No one ever brings it up anymore, at least.)

I used to get in to fights a lot too. Often over things that i now realize were just kids trying to be nice to me, but I actually thought they were being mean , something I had a hard time telling the difference between. Although, kids were often mean to me. And I'd often say things that cost me friendships. I never held on to more than a few friends at a time, and even in to adult hood I find it hard.

They had diagnosed with ADD back then in 5th grade. It only seemed to make matters worse as the ritalin caused me to sink deeper in to myself, and angrier. It only served to cause me to get in to more fights. Later that diagnosis would be discounted.

I've never been able to hold on to a job for very long. Employers tend to get frustrated with me easily. I always feel that I go out of my way to be useful, and helpful, and I always try to hold a tight regimine, and never step on any toes. To do everything right. I've learned to even ask questions even if it makes me sound stupid. I never seem to be able to do anything quite right. It seems like i'm always a step behind, that I always get cut right when i'm finally getting things right. I can always see my progress, my growth, in what seems like leaps and bounds to me, but to others it doesn't seem like enough.

Over the years I've had doctors try to diagnose me with schizophrenia, and various disorders, which when i'd actually talk to a real counselor they'd call ******** and take me off the meds. Which I always felt better off the meds.

I've always been obsessive about keeping my things in order. Having order. Knowing where things are. And I've always had trouble communicating my emotions, and as a result end up over-explaining myself in ways that often confuse even myself. I think that's partially why some doctors have tried to say I was schizoid.

Last year, i had a breakdown actually when my family tried to get me to move out of the home i was staying in. I was staying in my grandmother's home, and they wanted me to move out so they could sell it.

I couldn't bear the idea of them moving my stuff around. touching my stuff. And they were disrupting my day, which i'd already plans for. This is to say: THEY AMbuShED ME, my aunts and cousins did. It ended up with the cops being called and i was sent to a mental hospital for 3 days. Needless to say, aside from my mother and my grandmother, i've never had any kind of meaningful relationship with my family.

I also find it hard to lie. Extremely hard. I tend to follow my own ideals quite strictly, and become deeply upset when others do things that go against those ideals. I've tried to curb it a bit, but it's hasn't done much it good. Sometimes I get simple misunderstandings mixed up in there...I'll say something that I thought was genuinely sincere or innocent, and be told that what I said was rude, or upsetting. I tend to form my own connotations of things, that I forget are probably alien to other people. One time I told an obese man I was working on a book about a fat detective, because i thought the idea of a fatman doing action-hero style gymnastics would be interesting and cool to see. Another time I told a girlfriend of mine that a sexual encounter we had was "like awkward masturbation" thinking that she would find it funny too.

Talking about taking things strict. As a child I often did take instructions literally. And even in to adult hood. But most notably I remember a program telling me to beware of strangers, to run away from slow moving cars. So I did just that.

I've also found it really hard to form romantic relationships, and initimacy has never been a thing for me really. My friends often think it weird that I don't really have interest in pursuing one. My focus is on myself, my life, my interests. And i've always had a bad time at dealing with social things (groups I definitely can't do either.) I often shiop at night just to avoid having to deal with customer service people, it irritates me in a way that i feel is irrational - I actual fear having to deal with them. i often choose my restaurants based on "where can i serve my own drink so i don't have to ask."

And my interests tend to rotate, but they're extreme. I'm obsessed with minutinae, and finding endless subtlety, and classification of things. On a daily basis i wind up going down numerous rabbit holes whenever I find anything that interests me.

I've been unemployed for the past year, and i've moved 3 times in the past 6 months. It's been horrifiying, and i've never felt like I've belonged anywhere.

I can do social though. I just can't form anything lasting it seems. It's hard. My whole life, I've maybe only had 4 or 5 close friends. Today, i'm down to 1. I often would like to pursue friendships, but i'm never sure about the appropriateness of it. I'm never sure when I'm acting "obsessive" and it's actually become a major worry factor for me that I will say something offensive or creepy to someone.

anyways. I'm just curious if this sounds like a familiar story. I've been thinking about trying to get diagnosed, find a knowledgable doctor and ask him to screen me. But I dunno.
 
I'm a proud aspie, and I feel as if I've just read my own biography, except for the parts about employment (I've been too scared to try) and your family relationships, aside from that we seem to be exactly the same.

I think it's definitely worth seeing a doctor, and sorry if it's taken too long to get a reply.

Good luck!
 
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I'm a proud aspie, and I feel as if I've just read my own biography, except for the parts about employment (I've been too scared to try) and your family relationships, aside from that we seem to be exactly the same.

I think it's definitely worth seeing a doctor, and sorry if it's taken too long to get a reply.

Good luck!
Christain T has said what I might have said. It was like reading my own biography. I am also sorry that I missed your original post, and hope that you will feel welcome anyway.
 
thanks. It's been a bit hard for me lately, as I'm currently in a situation where I'm unable to have any routine in or control over my daily life. And it's really caused all the little personality quirks that I have to become big problems, to the point where it is hard to function from even moment to moment, let alone day to day. (definitely planning now to get help ASAP.)

but yeah. It's nice to know that there are people who do understand. Which is something that is hard to find - I can't even find it amongst friends or family right now.

Thank you both.
 
No problem, chinaski1000. The more you explore these forums, the more understand you'll give and receive. My first visit (which was only a few weeks ago) was such a beautifully surreal experience, that I'd definitely recommend it to you.

It's nice to know that there are people who do understand. Which is something that is hard to find - I can't even find it amongst friends or family right now.

As much as our friends and family love and care for us, and are accepting of our aspie traits, it can be very difficult to actually understand them. Most aspies feel excruciatingly isolated because we are (if you'll permit me to use inclusive language there) so sparsely scattered around society, surrounded by NTs with no one to relate to. When multiple aspies find each other, it is a very empowering thing.
 
The curious thing about aspies is that while we share so many common traits, we also each have many traits that differentiate us from other aspies. You don't have to have them all to be an aspie. For example, I don't have the sensory aversion to lights, sound or tactile surfaces that many others have.

Reading your story, it is my opinion you are one of us. Welcome.
 
Thanks, Loomis.

So, I'd thought about starting another thread, but I guess I'll post it here.

I've been trying to get up the nerve to reach out to my family about this. Particularly with one family member, who while quite distant, has always been rather sympathetic, but doesn't quite seem to understand what I go through sometimes.

My past is kind of fickle, because (and I'm not trying to give a sob story here) I've had a lot of traumas in my life, as well as father issues (I never had a strong male role model around, and my biological father was in prison and died when I was little), so I've been trying to separate the events from the behavior, because it seems that there are underlying causes that shaped the way that I acted or reacted over time. There's a logical pattern to it.

I've been sending letters back and forth with my sympathetic relative, asking questions about blanks I can't fill myself. And she's painted a picture about like I expected, but it has provided the confirmation that I needed for my notes.

Trying to build this case, so I can feel more comfortable asking for them to help pay for me to see a specialist. I think I should see a specialist, because I've been to general psychs over the years most of my life, and have seen nothing but adverse/conflicting/contradictory results.

I guess my biggest fear is the language my family uses. For instance my friend tried to say I was a "screw up" because of things (jobs, relationships, attempts at starting my own businesses) I attempted in the past that failed. He even tried to contend that "screw up" was a synonym for what I'm about to say: I tried to tell him it was a "learning experience" that's benefited me greatly, even if I have little to show for it right now today. Those businesses improved my technical knowledge and my social skills to a great degree, and still bring me an occasional income (especially web programming.) Sure, in retrospect, I can see how I'd proceed differently if given the same chances again, however, isn't that what any learning process is about, no matter what point in your life it comes? I think he has some mental hangups, and I have to say to myself "his truths are not my truths" but it still runs through my head until I get angry, even weeks after the fact.

Most of my family tends to have that same attitude. When I was sent home from military boot camp after a month, my grandmother said, "What will you ever do if you can't even make it through bootcamp?" Nevermind that statistically only roughly 30% of recruits ever make it through.

This kind of thing has caused me to compartmentalize my relationships over the years, so I can avoid getting too personal in speech with any one person, as I get frustrated when I have to explain myself, especially my feelings. Most people tend to be highly subjective and personal, while I am a person that tends to keep things objective and open.

So, I'm seeking a doctor for 2 reasons. 1) to fix my obvious emotional hangups. and 2) to get a professional opinion on whether I'm an Aspie or not. Logically, I can see that solving #1 could be sufficient alone to fix a lot of my problems, however I think accomplishing #2 would empower me, thus making my overall life better, allowing me to explain myself better to employers and new people that I wish to befriend, without having to "hide" as much (in short, it'd make accomplishing #1 a lot easier!)

It's funny, because I've had a few employers in the past ask if I was autistic once they really began to see me perform on the job. I get the job done, of course, but my way gets laughs when done out in the open - especially when I was working as a cameraman a few years ago. My grandmother apparently even wanted to get me tested when I was a kid, but my aunts stepped in saying she was "overstepping her boundaries."

But yeah, trying to build this case, so I can get my family to support me in this, so I can see a specialist.

I'm just afraid of their behavior towards me changing. Afraid of connotations people have. I remember after I was mis-diagnosed in the past, my family, even my supportive relative, acted irrationally in a way that lead me to believe I was crazy for awhile. But I got over it with time, because I knew who I was, even if they didn't. It may sound condescending or vain, but I feel that I'm a very self aware person, an awareness born out of singularity (some people try to paint me as "self righteous" sometimes even, but to that I just say, "no. I just do what works for me." Hence, my truths are my own truths.)

My family tends to use strong language with negative connotations. See people as "poor" or as "having a hard life." I think my life has had its ups and down, but I feel generally good about myself. I can see that I'm not as successful as others, but I have no regrets. Pride myself on doing whatever I can do to help myself better myself, even in times where there's little I can do or I'm not expected to. I'll "get there, when I get there." "slow and steady wins the race." And of course, "the night is still young."

But yeah...sorry for this long post. Especially as I'm now just curious what others have gone through when speaking up about this in adulthood, seeking an adult diagnosis.
 

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