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Did people give you hints that you were Aspie before you knew?

cory

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So I’m going to start in a familiar place. My father. He was one of those extremely personable, very high social IQ people. I think he was the first to notice the differences in me. He used to say I was in my own world. He would play music in bands, was a grade school music teacher, and would play 1-2 hour long “shows” across town. Whenever he would play at the school for disabled children (I was also a child at this point) he would take me along. Not my other two siblings, but only me. He was a bit intimidated or lost maybe when I started displaying extremely high aptitude in school (I remember once he was taking a college algebra class at our community college and at 12 or 13 I had already taken most of the material and precocious little me offered to help). I picked up a musical instrument at age 14 and it came naturally to me. He did encourage and compliment me but the most memorable thing he said was that music can be used as therapy. That was when I started coming out of my shell so to speak.

Another memory that has been ingrained, and until recently I didn’t know why, was something that happened to me in middle school. I’m going to use only the initials of anyone I am speaking about. I went to our cities gifted program in middle school and the teachers noticed how I treat everyone the same. Unless someone is treating me badly I treat everyone with respect and as if they are the same age. (I speak to children, adolescents, and adults in the same way. Creed or color never mattered either). So there was this kid (MK) in my gifted classes with a physical disability. His arms never formed past the age of 3 or 4 maybe. He was very intelligent and able to thrive in the program. The teachers chose me to help MK get from class to class; he needed an extra 5 minutes just to physically make it to the next class. I tried to fit in with the “cool” kids at school and did so reasonably well. It had always been important for me to fit in; I thought maybe the act would actually help me “be” normal. So this once I was with 3 or 4 of the “cool” kids and they cracked a joke about MK. I don’t remember the joke (I was probably off in my own world) or even that it was directed at him, but I started laughing just to go with the crowd. MK didn’t seem hurt by the joke (he must have had incredibly thick skin) but he turned to me and with the most hurt look and tone of voice said “Not you too”. I was taken aback and didn’t fully understand it but knew it was important. I can still actually hear him saying that to me. I felt ashamed for the longest time but now I think MK was just trying to teach me a lesson.

Flash-forward to high school. Where I met JA. The only person in my life I am positive was also an Aspie. He was also the most brilliant person I have ever known. The couple of years I knew him affected me for years after he left us. He was very personable and extremely well liked by both teachers and students. He started communicating with me in different ways, Aspie ways as I would now call it. He mimicked me, in a joking way. I saw the same behavior in myself. He kind of pushed me into making choices that had ripple effects for the rest of my life. For example; it’s through my own experience and his that I’ve come up with a theory on how un-aware HFA/Aspies gain knowledge of self. We both had near-death experiences that preceded our self-awareness of Aspergers. He had a heart-transplant at 13 or 14. I had an unknown (at the time) neurological condition at 25-26. During this time I came to the realization that whatever it was might kill me. I think high-stress situations like these are necessary to undo the years or decades of socialization that tell us our differences are wrong and something to be stamped out instead of explored and embraced. After JA passed, my senior English teacher read his college entrance essay to the class. I copied the format of that essay to write my personal statement for entrance into grad school. To this day I believe it was that essay that got me accepted.
 
Hi Cory, What is the theory you came up with about how aspies gain knowledge of self, great insights/ stories, btw. thanks for sharing...

the only hint i got was that somethign was always weird or off, wasnt aware of the term.
 
Hi Cory, What is the theory you came up with about how aspies gain knowledge of self, great insights/ stories, btw. thanks for sharing...

the only hint i got was that somethign was always weird or off, wasnt aware of the term.
I started getting the feeling that something "was always weird or off" at a pretty young age, maybe grade school. I think the theory I have been developing is that people around me have been giving me hints or clues as to exactly what was off since about that time. Basically telling me that I was autistic and didn't know it. When you have a near death experience (NDE) or really any experience where you go through a huge amount of stress I think you become increasingly introspective. For me, I was able to connect all these seemingly random experiences I had been having my whole life and see them as a completed whole. For instance, if I had someone mention to me that I imitate facial gestures and then three years later have someone say I'm frequently caught "up in my own world" I wouldn't really see a connection. Just that what was said was true and perceptive. When I had my NDE I was able to see all of these things at once; and as a whole they painted a much clearer picture than if I took them individually. Does that make sense?
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I think how I was treated at school as "weird" was one of the hints that I was different also my husband told me he always "knew" even before I did.
 
I've not noticed or realised that there is a pattern in that regard.

Maybe there is.

I have noticed patterns throughout my life, after not completely dissimilar experiences.

I woke up one morning about five years ago with a new "special" interest - find out what I can about the nature of the universe and what happens when we die.

I started with Physics, cosmology and quantum theory, then conciousness studies, NDEs, death bed visions, and anything else that could be considered anomalous.

Modern science tends to ignore the inconvenient, but in my mind that's where the really interesting questions were being asked.

That all led me to eastern mysticism, enlightenment, Zen, Advaita Vedanta to the final end which was realisation of my true self and non duality.

It took me a couple of years of introspection, which is much less than most NTs, but I think only took me so long because I was studying people and teachers who's experiences were different to mine as I'm Aspie (didn't know at the time).

Seeing the universe from a non-dual perspective showed me many patterns and conditioned behaviours both in the past and the present.

Hmm, bit of a tangent there, sorry ;).

I think what I was trying to say is that what I am is just the silent witness of experiences.
What is the doer of the experiences is a body and mind that just does stuff independant of my self.

There was a study done a few years ago where they put people in an MRI machine and presented them with desicions.

The outcome was that the researchers were able to predict the desicions 7 seconds before the subject was conscious of having made a desicion!
 
I've not noticed or realised that there is a pattern in that regard.





Seeing the universe from a non-dual perspective showed me many patterns and conditioned behaviours both in the past and the present.

Hmm, bit of a tangent there, sorry ;).

I think what I was trying to say is that what I am is just the silent witness of experiences.


There was a study done a few years ago where they put people in an MRI machine and presented them with desicions.

The outcome was that the researchers were able to predict the desicions
The first philosophical text I picked up and identified with is the Tao Ti Ching.
 
No, no hints, no nothing.

In fact, when I told my friend who is a qualified therapist my suspicions, she said "I have a client with Aspergers and you're nothing like him"

I knew myself something was off about me, but never knew what.
 
Ditto for me as well. Seemed the only person in my orbit with a clue was me.

Though I literally stumbled onto it all in the beginning, courtesy of a tv documentary. Had I not seen it and begun to put all the pieces together, I'd still be searching for answers of who and what I am.
 
No, no hints, no nothing.

In fact, when I told my friend who is a qualified therapist my suspicions, she said "I have a client with Aspergers and you're nothing like him"

I knew myself something was off about me, but never knew what.

I've had that something like that happen a few times since the dx; apparently I have learned too well how to fit in.

I would like to travel back in time, about fifteen years, long before ASD was on my radar, to throttle a psychiatrist. He was insistent that I had this, that, and the other thing and he happened to know all the meds I should take. It ended in a really ugly scene including him saying that he felt insulted that I wouldn't maintain eye contact when we spoke!

What a ****!
 
I've had that something like that happen a few times since the dx; apparently I have learned too well how to fit in.

I would like to travel back in time, about fifteen years, long before ASD was on my radar, to throttle a psychiatrist. He was insistent that I had this, that, and the other thing and he happened to know all the meds I should take. It ended in a really ugly scene including him saying that he felt insulted that I wouldn't maintain eye contact when we spoke!

What a ****!

Even the "professionals" haven't got a clue sometimes!
 
Hmm, my mother didn't know about asperger until I was diagnosed 3 years ago at 23yo but she used to tell me that from the three brothers I was the most silent when I was still a baby, I was very easy not like a regular child which cries and makes stuff.

Also the day I was diagnosed my mother gave the psychiatrist and the psycologist a note from my kindergarden teacher which said I must look for a therapist back then but I never did until 23.
 
Ditto for me as well. Seemed the only person in my orbit with a clue was me.

Though I literally stumbled onto it all in the beginning, courtesy of a tv documentary. Had I not seen it and begun to put all the pieces together, I'd still be searching for answers of who and what I am.
What was the documentary?
 
What was the documentary?


It was from National Geographic....their "taboo" series. "Love affairs" with inanimate objects. One segment focused on this thing called "Aspergers Syndrome" and the man who had it. Never heard of it before.

However at the time what truly got my attention wasn't autism, or even this fellow's preference of having a relationship with a life-sized doll/mannequin. It was his hobby- plastic modelling. That caught and held my attention, because I was able to connect a creative, "solo-hobby" that required no socialization with this thing called "Aspergers Syndrome". (I've been a plastic modeller most of my life.)

After that something nagged at me to investigate the syndrome itself...which eventually brought me here. I learned that I'm not some introverted nerd or jerk. Just someone with a distinct type of neurology different than the majority of the population.
 

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