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Does Anime Have to Come From Japan to Be Called Anime?

AGXStarseed

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In 2013, Alter Ego Productions, an animated studio based in Abu Dhabi, created Torkaizer, which was lauded as “the Middle East’s first anime.” The story followed Ahmed, a young Emirati man who must protect humanity from an impending alien invasion.
The plot and animation style clearly borrowed from well-known Japanese anime: the unsuspecting hero’s journey, the humanoid animals — it even takes place in Japan. However, Torkaizer being marketed as an anime struck up a debate almost as old as the genre: if it’s not from Japan, can we call it anime?

What Does Anime Actually Mean?
The dispute typically begins here: the word “anime” (shortened from “animēshon“) is the Japanese pronunciation of the word “animation.” In Japan, the word is often used as a blanket term for all animated content no matter where it’s from. This means “anime” could describe Dragon Ball and Disney alike; they’re both animated, so why not?

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Take, for example, this Japanese DVD cover. Here, Betty Boop is being described as an “antique anime.” American animator Max Fleischer first drew the famous cartoon flapper girl in 1930. So, even though it’s not Japanese, it’s anime.

If this is the stance the Japanese take — the very culture that conceived and elevated anime to its current greatness — shouldn’t we follow their lead? Couldn’t we describe anything animated as “anime”?


Why Don’t We Just Qualify It?
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Most Western fans tend to be rigid with the definition of anime. They claim the term can only be used to define non-Japanese animation when qualified. This is why you’ll hear people describe the web series RWBY (made by American production company, Rooster Teeth) as an American anime. Or you’ll notice fans dub Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra as anime-inspired TV shows. You can acknowledge the nod to anime, but you can’t outright call it anime.

An analogy fans often bring up is food. Sure, Taco Bell serves a pizza on its menu (it’s T4 on the drive-through menu, look it up), but they qualify it as a Mexican Pizza due to its taco-inspired ingredients (ground beef, shredded lettuce and so on). Were you to present this Mexican Pizza in a contest in Naples, where pizza is believed to have been born, you’ll be laughed out of Italy.

Some fans claim that as pizza is the product of Italian culture (like the ingredients they have readily available and their customs surrounding eating), anime is a product of Japanese culture. Animation created outside of Japan can be inspired by anime, but it can’t actually be anime because it simply lacks that Japanese je ne sais quoi.


But Seriously — What Is Anime?
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The issue here is that pizza is easier to define than anime. When seeking a formal definition of anime, once you start poking and prodding, it all becomes a little bit fuzzy.

Must anime come from a manga? Surely, the success of Cowboy Bebop has shut this theory down.

Does anime describe a specific visual style? Relying on an “I can’t define it, but I know it when I see it” approach is insufficient. And for every trope or visual element — the blue hair, the nosebleeds, the cute animal hybrids — there are dozens of examples that exist outside these parameters.


The Verdict
So is that it — is anime only defined as being animation from Japan? Maybe. Because the discussion surrounding cultural appropriation is so prevalent in our current racial climate, we know we must borrow from other cultures with utmost respect. Creating anime-inspired content should be an homage, not a cash grab. This requires researching anime, knowing the titans in the industry, and understanding its importance to Japanese culture.

That being said, one thing is frustratingly clear: the definition of anime remains frustratingly unclear! And, as long these borders stay subjective and blurred, the debate will likely continue.

Tell us what you think. Can anime only come from Japan?


Source: Does Anime Have to Come From Japan to Be Called Anime?
 
I've always been in the camp that sees anime/cartoons/animation all okay to be used interchangeably, but when you know others are not as open minded about this, you have to use the localised words depending on who you're speaking to. Some people are super purist about what term to use. It seems to be mostly people who want to disassociate themselves from being known to like animation from the rest of the world which I think is really sad, but what can you do...

I know the UK market used to think manga was anime a lot in the 1990s, when manga is just comics. Still seeing the brand name Manga Entertainment today still makes me laugh since they only really distribute animation, not comics.

What becomes the used terms seems to be mostly based on people's interpretation of that word, and how much they want to borrow words from what the locals are saying. Languages are ever changing after all; no different to adopting words through trade to words picked up during a war.

According to The Otaku Encyclopedia (by Patrick W. Galbraith), page 20, the word anime only really started being used by the Japanese after the book Terebi Meisaku Anime Gekijo in 1975; before that, it was used in combination with other words such as anime-douga, anime-manga, and anime-movie.

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I do recommend picking this book up! :)
 
When I got into anime back in the 90's. I learned to call it "anime" real quickly. Because saying "Japanese cartoons" was an insult and could get you torn a new one.
 
The majority of Anime' is indeed Japanese.

I've seen some good stuff, such as Akira, and Howl's Moving Castle, and of course the Street Fighter II animated movie.
 
On a personal note, I think of anime as an artistic genre and style that - while it started in Japan - shouldn't be limited just to Japan.
I think it would be interesting to see other countries creating anime and seeing what they do with it. Honestly, I'd love to see Britain have a crack at making some anime movies, especially as Japan has adapted stories from other parts of the world or used elements of worldly mythology in their various animes; one example been the inclusion of various dragons including the Welsh and Saxon Dragons from the Mabinogion/Historia Brittonum in the anime High School DxD as Ddraig and Albion respectively, while another example is Studio Ghibli's adaptation of the British fantasy novel Howl's Moving Castle.
 
I seem to say "Lego Anime" heaps despite that Lego was first pioneered in Denmark. Maybe "Lego Anime" is a word all thanks to the "Lego Ninjago" cartoons.
 

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