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Has falling in love made you change your Aspieness ?

Waltram

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Has any of you experienced a major change in their social and communication abilities because they had a crush or fell in love with someone ? It happened to me when I was 16. I was so shy, reserved and socially awkward that I couldn't even talk to girls. I was very closed socially. I only had a few friend sharing similar interests in video games. I was a complete nerd. But everything changed when I fell in love with a girl. With the help of a more socially skilled friend, I single-mindedly decided to change and become socially "normal". It took a few months of intense self psychoanalysis and great psychological effort to change the way I thought, felt, reacted and behaved. But the motivation was there and I was completely transformed.

The most difficult thing was to change was attitude to touching and display of affection. I disliked to be touched, even by family members. I obviously had to get rid of that if I wanted to kiss my girlfriend, which I very much wanted. Ultimately touching and affection are linked to trusting people, which was very difficult for me. At one point I had to decide that it was worth a try and that I would let other people in my trust zone. I surrendered my emotional defences as it was the only way I could make friends, socialise and get close to the girl I liked.

Within 6 months, not only was I able to talk to any girl, but I was making friends with almost anybody, going out to parties and even throwing my own parties. Nobody could believe it, least of all my family.

What is amazing is that this psychological or emotional change also eliminated many of the my more physical Aspie traits. I became less sensitive to smells and noises. I walked more confidently and stopped having a strange gait or posture. My tastes in music passed from video game tunes to Pop and Techno. For the first time in my life I started to care I how dressed and to wear perfume. I wasn't a weird nerd any longer, but was greeted by almost everyone at school. I even organised school events. My metamorphosis was so radical that some people compared it to the film Awakenings with Robert DeNiro and Robin Williams.

Despite all that change, I know I did not become neurotypical. My interests shifted from nerdy to social, but the way I tackled my everyday challenges was with the same rational and analytical attitude as before. I was still very different from others. I had ideas for parties that no one else seemed to have, and it worked quite well. But I remained more emotionally fragile and still didn't know how to deal with people effectively. I had become more confident and outward-looking, but I made quite a few faux-pas and couldn't deal with my own strong emotions of love. I never got the girl I liked and became depressed. It got better a few years later and I did find a girlfriend. But some of my Aspie traits crawled back little by little over time, and I became socially isolated again. It is certain, however, that I now communicate better and have a much better understanding of social relationships than before. But I am still an Aspie because that is who I am.

With the hindsight I believe that my social metamorphosis was caused by the hormonal changes brought on by falling in love as a teenager. These are very powerful emotions that can literally change a man. I have read that love is caused by an increase of oxytocin (the trust and attachment hormone) in the brain, and that oxytocin is also the main hormone found to be too low in autistic and Aspie kids. Could it be that a rise in oytocin is all it take to improve our social and communication skills ? I really feel like I had a rush of oxytocin when I fell in love, and that this is what ultimately allowed me to socialise normally. My unrequited love slowly went away and my sociability decreased at the same time. When I fell in love again later, my sociability increased again (although less because I had been wounded before and my love was more restrained and careful this time).

Has anyone of you ever experienced anything similar ?
 
Not for me! I fell in love when I was 18 and it confused and frightened the heck out of me; I found myself not being able to cope at all; I did not feel good about it all and wished with all my heart, that at 16, when I looked out of my window and said: where there come a day, when I will actually want the boy that I was besotted with at first, last for longer than 2 weeks? Not that I was inundated with dates, but I did have a fair share of chaps wanting to date me! I even said to myself: what is wrong with me? I went from daydreaming about a guy, to actually hating the sight of him but only once, did this hit back! I dated one guy but only because I felt flattered he fancied me but he had rather a nasty problem. He smelt and I could not cope and one day, I was talking with one of my sisters and said: I wish there was a way I could say goodbye for I do not fancy him because he smells so unclean and it was a complete turn off! Little did I know that he had come over to see me and actually heard what I said, and well, didn't take it too kindly; I was relieved in one way, because lol it got rid of him, but not in another, because he went around telling nasty things about me, which I couldn't handle, as I am not that kind of person; rather keep to myself!

I have now been married for 23 year's but to a different man and run in and out of being in love, but actually, despite it making me very vulnerable, I relish it, because he has not stopped being in love with me! I always know when I am in love because suddenly what I usually do not like about him, becomes very dear and can't stop feasting my eyes on him and wanting to touch him and hate being without him! Well, naturally, he loves it; just wish it was more constant!!

I have tasted, albeit very briefly, confidence at its purist and love it, but I would rather not feel it at all, than only once in a while, because it is such a flipping good feel factor, that I feel even worse, when I go back to being this horrible character that I am stuck with!!
 
Love did change a few things :D Not my aspieness though. I am still same old me, just a few problems I used to have, have been made a whole lot easier to work around.

I used to be really shy, and so was my ex-girlfriend (my best friend).
So yeah, we both had similar difficulty and anxiety with starting friendships, and so we supported each other, and practiced the difficult thing which is socialization with one another. :D

Now I have the experience to make good friendships with anyone who I care enough to be friends with. :)
I also talk a lot more. :D
 
A had a couple of crushes, a few of them serious, but I honestly don't know if I ever truly fell for a guy. Half the appeal of my husband was that he didn't evoke those blasted jitters and butterflies some guys did, I avoided those boys. I was a lot "cooler" when I met him though. I'd been chasing a shy guy for ten months when I met my now-husband, and I also had a few good things going for me. I was laid-back, confident, and always had an evil little grin. I can be fun and social when I'm in the mood for it. :p
 
Half the appeal of my husband was that he didn't evoke those blasted jitters and butterflies some guys did, I avoided those boys

No butterflies with your "hunny" Asheskyler? Getting the butterflies is the fun part. If I don't get any butterflies, it makes me think I'm not interested in that guy. Isn't that what it means usually?
 
No butterflies with your "hunny" Asheskyler? Getting the butterflies is the fun part. If I don't get any butterflies, it makes me think I'm not interested in that guy. Isn't that what it means usually?
Hmmm, I never really got butterflies until after I'd fallen for my husband. I always liken it to a longevity thing: some relationships start with a bright flame, like lighting a match, but burn out quickly and can't be relit. I feel as though my husband and I are like a candle, the flame grew brighter and stronger as time went on, and the butterflies only turn up in moments of pure joy. They're not nerves, just joy.

I have no idea if that made any sense lol
 
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No butterflies with your "hunny" Asheskyler? Getting the butterflies is the fun part. If I don't get any butterflies, it makes me think I'm not interested in that guy. Isn't that what it means usually?
For most people, that is the great part and is a bullseye physical notification you're attracted to somebody. But I always hated being around a guy who gave me butterflies. As nervous and fidgety as I already am, I'd much rather have a guy who meets my list on top of making me feel relaxed and comfortable around him instead of nauseous and anxious. It's much easier to cuddle when you have warm fuzzy feelings instead of feeling as jittery as a squirrel who drank three pots of coffee. :yum:
 
Hmmm, I never really got butterflies until after I'd fallen for my husband. I always liken it to a longevity thing: some relationships start with a bright flame, like lighting a match, but burn out quickly and can't be relit. I feel as though my husband and I are like a candle, the flame grew brighter and stronger as time went on, and the butterflies only turn up in moments of pure joy. They're not nerves, just joy.

I have no idea if that made any sense lol
That really makes a whole lot of sense, actually.
 
Has any of you experienced a major change in their social and communication abilities because they had a crush or fell in love with someone ?
With the hindsight I believe that my social metamorphosis was caused by the hormonal changes brought on by falling in love as a teenager. These are very powerful emotions that can literally change a man. I have read that love is caused by an increase of oxytocin (the trust and attachment hormone) in the brain, and that oxytocin is also the main hormone found to be too low in autistic and Aspie kids. Could it be that a rise in oytocin is all it take to improve our social and communication skills ? I really feel like I had a rush of oxytocin when I fell in love, and that this is what ultimately allowed me to socialise normally. My unrequited love slowly went away and my sociability decreased at the same time. When I fell in love again later, my sociability increased again
Has anyone of you ever experienced anything similar ?

Hi Waltram that was really good post you wrote, I think I'm inclined to agree with you on this. I think I have operated on a higher level socially while in love. I will however make one note I think there were clear signs my analytical side suffered some at the same time as I got blindsided by some stuff that I normally would have spotted and shut down immeadiately, so there appears to be a trade off here. But I think you be right that some hormone levels may be boot strapping areas in the brain.
 
That I know of, I've only truly fallen in love twice. I don't feel that they changed my Aspieness much... I know they made me worry about physical affection and intimacy, because at a very young age it was drilled into my head that I would grow up an experience labor and get to kiss the man of my dreams, yada yada yada.

For most people, that is the great part and is a bullseye physical notification you're attracted to somebody. But I always hated being around a guy who gave me butterflies. As nervous and fidgety as I already am, I'd much rather have a guy who meets my list on top of making me feel relaxed and comfortable around him instead of nauseous and anxious. It's much easier to cuddle when you have warm fuzzy feelings instead of feeling as jittery as a squirrel who drank three pots of coffee. :yum:
I feel this might be why I don't date. I really hate those nervous feelings, but I adore the warm feelings.
 
[QUOTE="Effy, I feel this might be why I don't date. I really hate those nervous feelings, but I adore the warm feelings.[/QUOTE]

Hi Effy I agree with you and Ashskyler, sorry I don't know how to link both of your quotes. I love that warm fuzzy slipper feeling where the person you love is a soft comfortable place to fall. Unfortunately so far for me it has turned out to be a mirage, and evaporated under the withering sun of, I want lists and family extortion demands. I wish I could find someone who could, (just be), everyone gets so caught up in their want lists that they don't even notice love and happiness flying out the window. Sigh!:(
 

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