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Hello, I have an aspie husband. And I might be one as well.

Aeris

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I have been married to my husband for 8 yr and with him for 9 this Dec. Our marriage right now is really rough. He say I don't understand him. I have read every book I could get my hands on and read every site that had anything on asperger's. Then I found ya'll. As I read trying to understand the workings of my husband's mind, I became aware of my own mind. As I read the post I could relate to each of you with 1 exception. I don't need alone time but need to be hugged to relax and make my head shut up enough I could function. He doesn't understand that. I am not sure what is going on with me at the moment, but I am trying to get things set up. The reason I came about posting this is because I have tried to initiate some of the suggestions I have read to help with his meltdowns. He doesn't seem to want to do anything. He wants alone time 24/7 and says I don't give it to him. We spend maybe an hour or 2 together per day for the last yr. Then tells our friends and family that I don't want to spend any time with him or do things he likes with him. At the moment he is considering a divorce, which I don't want. Yes, I obsess over this man. So the reason I have come here is this... if I too have asperger's, what do I do? I love him. It's not that warm fuzzy thing, I have never felt that, it's more of a he makes my heart race whenever he is near kind of feeling.
 
So the reason I have come here is this... if I too have asperger's, what do I do?

I don't see any way for anyone to answer this question.

There's clearly a problem with the relationship. It seems like a good idea to work on that. But how would it change things if you are or are not on the spectrum?

BTW - in general, people on the spectrum get on well with each other. Not necessarily romantically - but we can talk to each other.

I think I know why this is, but my theory is untestable (at least by me).
But FWIW - we communicate more directly than NT's, and we like direct communication.

I think two Aspies can talk more easily because they don't need to work so hard on "masking" (which, despite the name, is a two way thing - figuring out what NT's are trying communicate is half the effort).
 
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@Aeris, welcome. I am one of the "old married guys" here on the forum. I am 56 and have been with my wife for 37 of those years. Yes, I was 19 when we married. Having said that, I was not diagnosed until I was 52.

In my experience, the vast majority of relationship troubles are due to communication issues, even with neurotypicals, but especially with those on the spectrum. Many of us have some degree of "mind blindness" where we have little idea of another's thoughts, feelings, and perspectives. From that context, this often demands that a different type of communication style be employed when dealing with the autistic individual. One, both people have to be acutely aware of this "mind blindness", so this translates into being accurate with your language with each other, and using "direct" language not "indirect" language. Neither of you can "assume" or that "he/she should know" anything. No hints, no working up to a conclusion from asking questions, get to the point. Heterosexual males, right or wrong, are often conditioned to suppress their feelings. They internalize. Furthermore, if a male does express emotions to his partner, the female gets upset and everything blows up in his face. So he learns from that and wants to avoid those emotional conversations. Furthermore, still, a high percentage of autistics also have alexithymia where there is a brain-body disconnect or processing delay where we might not be able to identify how we are feeling "in the moment". If someone asked me right now how or what I was feeling, I would say, "Absolutely nothing."

In my experience, my wife and I have learned to embrace "quiet time", whether it be at home, in the car, out on a date, whatever. I am mentally incapable of "small talk", so when we do interact it is about specific things like the kids, the house, the finances, work, etc. We get straight to the point and then we are done. When we do spend time with each other, for the most part, we don't need to talk, but simply being there is often enough.

Meltdowns and shutdowns are most often due to a build up of stress and anxiety, and this is more like over a prolonged period. The pressure builds and then some seemingly innocuous trigger will be enough to cause a rather embarrassing, but violent outburst of emotion. Keep in mind, if he is an internalizer, then what you may notice is the "shutdown" first, the avoidance behavior, and then if you push him just a bit, then the "meltdown". Obviously, whatever is going on in his life has got him into this "shutdown" mode. Work life, especially if working with people, can mentally exhaust anyone. Quality sleep helps significantly, and I am guessing by now, he probably is either mentally wiped out or is already taking afternoon naps. Avoid sugars/carbs. Don't even buy them. Seriously, sugar raises havoc in everyone's brain, but especially autistic brains which are already under physiological stress. The insulin spike can vasodilate the cerebral vascular bed causing a low-grade cerebral edema. It's not a headache, per se, although it can be, but more of an internal pressure within the skull and you feel like crap, and if you have sensory issues, it exacerbates them quite a bit. So, a lifestyle change may be in order. Dietary supplements like melatonin, resveratrol, chelated magnesium, methyl-B12, and probiotics, etc will help. Restrict the caffeine. Restrict the carb intake in place of more good fats, salads, lean protein sources. Go for walks outside, fresh air and sunshine and a walk around the block can do wonders for the mood and relaxation. Intermittent fasting is great for the brain function, as well.

Well, I hope I gave you some ideas.
 
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I think two Aspies can talk more easily because they don't need to work so hard on "masking" (which, despite the name, is a two way thing - figuring out what NT's are trying communicate is half the effort).















It has taken me yrs to even think about telling anyone how I feel. I am 47 and have only been able to do this for the last 5 yrs because I do feel comfortable enough around my husband to tell him how I feel. He refuses to talk to me period about how he feels saying I will never understand. Even now with me taking a bunch of quizzes to see if there is a possibility that I could be more like him than he could believe, he still says I will never understand. I can't speak most of my feelings but I will text them to him and he takes it as I am attacking him no matter how many times I tell him I am not, that this is stuff going on in my head.
 
So I am having technical difficulties with my phone. Please forgive me for mistakes.



@Neonatal RRT

I have tried the direct and it still seems like he misses everything I say. I learned in the first 2 yrs that hinting wasn't the way to go with him. I have always had trouble talking to people my whole life. They say I'm too rude or too arrogant.

Yes, he has shutdowns first. When I notice he has shutdown, I try to get him to explain what happened to cause him to shutdown. That causes the meltdowns. I get called names, he degrades himself, yells at me without realizing that he's doing it, threatens to leave or does leave. If I say "I'm wrong, I'm sorry" he turns it around that he's the wrong one. It's like he's on a competition to to see who is more in the wrong. He had been known to sleep 14 hours a day. Here lately I'm not sure. I'm not home when he goes to bed and I'm not awake most times when he leaves for work in the morning. He used to be so affectionate and considerate. Now he's Antarctica towards me.
 
So I am having technical difficulties with my phone. Please forgive me for mistakes.



@Neonatal RRT

I have tried the direct and it still seems like he misses everything I say. I learned in the first 2 yrs that hinting wasn't the way to go with him. I have always had trouble talking to people my whole life. They say I'm too rude or too arrogant.

Yes, he has shutdowns first. When I notice he has shutdown, I try to get him to explain what happened to cause him to shutdown. That causes the meltdowns. I get called names, he degrades himself, yells at me without realizing that he's doing it, threatens to leave or does leave. If I say "I'm wrong, I'm sorry" he turns it around that he's the wrong one. It's like he's on a competition to to see who is more in the wrong. He had been known to sleep 14 hours a day. Here lately I'm not sure. I'm not home when he goes to bed and I'm not awake most times when he leaves for work in the morning. He used to be so affectionate and considerate. Now he's Antarctica towards me.
Sounds like he's stressed to the point of debilitation. He doesn't seem to be able to take in anymore input. I would recommend some professional help, as it seems he's a bit of "ticking time bomb" right now. I don't think it is you, per se, but I think he is directing his behavior towards you because you just happen to be present. Whatever, I would call a doctor.
 
I suggest you check out AANE.ORG (Austism Aspergers Network). They're an organization in the U.S. that provides services both free and as a cost. They provide their services via zoom so they work with people all over the world. Among other things they specialize in coaching couples where one (or both) are neurodiverse.

Neurodiverse Couples Coaching – The Asperger / Autism Network (AANE)

Therapists and counselors that have no experience with autism from what I've read accounts of many times on autism forums are not suited for providing couples counseling when autism is a factor. Therefore AANE.org and therapy/counseling that is knowledgeable of autism is far preferable.

Also, AANE.org provides a totally free 30 minute phone consultation for anyone about any topic (not just related to relationships) in which autism factors into the person's challenges, struggles, dilemmas, etc. I used this free phone consult service when I had questions about work accommodations and I received very good information, advice, etc.

If your husband is literally wanting solitary time in his life every day to the point he only interacts with you 1-2 hours per day and that's not an exaggeration, that's not ok. Relationships require compromise. However, your relationship likely also includes needs/wants that you have that might require compromise on your part. Relationship problems are rarely completely one sided.
 
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Welcome!

I concur that seeking professional help may he helpful. Sleeping a lot might (not necessarily) be a sign that they have a lot of sensitivities that are easily triggered.

As for having difficulty describing one's feelings / alexithymia, that's something that's kind of common. There is some literature on the topic.
 
I have been married to my husband for 8 yr and with him for 9 this Dec. Our marriage right now is really rough. He say I don't understand him. I have read every book I could get my hands on and read every site that had anything on asperger's. Then I found ya'll. As I read trying to understand the workings of my husband's mind, I became aware of my own mind. As I read the post I could relate to each of you with 1 exception. I don't need alone time but need to be hugged to relax and make my head shut up enough I could function. He doesn't understand that. I am not sure what is going on with me at the moment, but I am trying to get things set up. The reason I came about posting this is because I have tried to initiate some of the suggestions I have read to help with his meltdowns. He doesn't seem to want to do anything. He wants alone time 24/7 and says I don't give it to him. We spend maybe an hour or 2 together per day for the last yr. Then tells our friends and family that I don't want to spend any time with him or do things he likes with him. At the moment he is considering a divorce, which I don't want. Yes, I obsess over this man. So the reason I have come here is this... if I too have asperger's, what do I do? I love him. It's not that warm fuzzy thing, I have never felt that, it's more of a he makes my heart race whenever he is near kind of feeling.
That's a very tough situation. I wish I could give you good advice. It is hard when one person in a relationship has a harder time opening up than the other.
 
---"Avoid sugars/carbs. Don't even buy them. Seriously, sugar raises havoc in everyone's brain, but especially autistic brains which are already under physiological stress. The insulin spike can vasodilate the cerebral vascular bed causing a low-grade cerebral edema. It's not a headache, per se, although it can be, but more of an internal pressure within the skull and you feel like crap"

Criminy! Wondering if this explains my migraine/brain fog/low functioning periods.
Thanks for your post! It explains many symptoms I didn't have words for- shutdown, meltdown etc.
 
Hi @Aeris, welcome! You and I have a lot in common. I don't have any answers, but I can share some of what I've been going through. Because of my situation, though, I'll be responding by PM only. I hope it may be of some benefit to you.
 
I suggest you check out AANE.ORG (Austism Aspergers Network). They're an organization in the U.S. that provides services both free and as a cost. They provide their services via zoom so they work with people all over the world. Among other things they specialize in coaching couples where one (or both) are neurodiverse.

Neurodiverse Couples Coaching – The Asperger / Autism Network (AANE)

Therapists and counselors that have no experience with autism from what I've read accounts of many times on autism forums are not suited for providing couples counseling when autism is a factor. Therefore AANE.org and therapy/counseling that is knowledgeable of autism is far preferable.

Also, AANE.org provides a totally free 30 minute phone consultation for anyone about any topic (not just related to relationships) in which autism factors into the person's challenges, struggles, dilemmas, etc. I used this free phone consult service when I had questions about work accommodations and I received very good information, advice, etc.

If your husband is literally wanting solitary time in his life every day to the point he only interacts with you 1-2 hours per day and that's not an exaggeration, that's not ok. Relationships require compromise. However, your relationship likely also includes needs/wants that you have that might require compromise on your part. Relationship problems are rarely completely one sided.

Welcome. I hope you can find some help among us.

Magna, I checked out the Neurodiverse Couples Coaching and the cost is $200 for 45 minutes. That’s a prohibitive cost for many of us.
 
When I notice he has shutdown, I try to get him to explain what happened to cause him to shutdown. That causes the meltdowns.

You write this as though it's happened many times.
If it has, you need to keep re-reading that sentence until you understand what you said.

When you see it clearly, I suggest you come back and open a discussion about communicating with Aspies.
NB: that suggestion is independent of whether you are following advice from an external source, or trying something yourself.

FWIW I think it's possible you're on the spectrum.
But that doesn't affect your options for resolving what sounds like a serious issue. Right now you need to set a clear objective, and commit to it for a while (a month or two at least).
 
@Magna

It isn't an exaggeration. And I agree, relationships require compromise on both sides. Things go even deeper than I am willi to say here. I have read how persons with asperger's are loyal, dedicated, obsessive, honest. Until this month I believed they were dishonest and shady. I figured if I truly loved him I could handle the angry outburst and name calling. I didn't need anyone's approval of myself. Now I am not sure what to think.
 
Hi @Aeris and welcome.

Sounds like it could be an important time to focus on yourself right now. Hang here with us and learn as much as you can about autism from primary sources if you want to. The most important thing is to understand yourself and learn about your value, your boundaries, and your needs.
 
@Hypnalis
I did word that wrong. I do ask him direct questions as I have really never been the type of person to be indirect. I ask him what happened to make him feel like he needed to shutdown. That is something I have done on my own hoping it was right. I watch him, study i guess some would call it. Its probably weird or freaky, but I watch everything he does hoping I can understand what makes him so mad so quickly. Am I initiating his shutdown by watching? And yes it has been happening a lot over the last 13 months. I do have difficulty understanding all I have read. It's a jumbled mess in my head. Stuff I have read plus stuff that is going on in real life. I'm having problems sorting it out wondering if I should just give up. I'm not sure if I can sort my head out right now.
 

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