Hello

[tripleU]

Hello

 

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Hi Dood. How's things?

 

[tripleU]

Hi Dood. How's things?

I am trying to make something similar to vcpkg in rust, I have named it libi, I don't want to reveal horrible code right now

 

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I am trying to make something similar to vcpkg in rust, I have named it libi, I don't want to reveal horrible code right now

You should have a play with Linux, I think that would greatly improve your understanding of different ways that things can work.

 

[tripleU]

You should have a play with Linux, I think that would greatly improve your understanding of different ways that things can work.

I already did for a year and hate it, I just want a big hard drive, so I can use Windows again, as I only gave it 256GB on this computer, as I was forced to install Windows by the shop, I was buying it from. Then I found driver issues with Unreal Engine, 25 FPS instead of 100+ FPS and a lot of other issues, Linux only works as a thing for reviving old computers not making new ones perform better. You will see this happen a lot in Pakistan, Linux is hated, Desktop computers are too, Laptops perform worser.

 

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As for Linux, I disagree. Admittedly I always had desktop computers so Windows and Linux could both have their own harddrives, but run on the same computer. By being able to do a direct comparison like that I can honestly say that the gaming performance in Linux is far superior. Not just by a little bit, by a lot.

The problem is in whether or not you can get the game to run at all. But if it runs it's far faster and smoother in Linux than in Windows.

 

[tripleU]

The problem is in wether or not you can get the game to run at all. But if it runs it's far faster and smoother in Linux than in Windows.

The games runs more slowly in Linux, that's what I mean. 25 FPS on Linux 100 FPS on Windows, I am also using Arch Linux, because it gave me more performance on an old computer just before switching, and it has a lot of issues, toxic forum, driver issues, I think it may be possible to somehow switch to Manjaro, If I get a chance to reinstall, then I would pick Ubuntu or Windows, Windows didn't even run on that old computer, but runs so fast on this one. I only get better performance in a few things like temps, Blender with Raytracing. I don't want to talk about this anymore.

 

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I am also using Arch Linux,

The problem will be the graphics driver you're using. I bet at some stage it gave you a warning about running in "software rendering mode". That's sort of the equivalent of running in a graphics safe mode because you don't have the proper drivers installed.

 

[tripleU]

The problem will be the graphics driver you're using. I bet at some stage it gave you a warning about running in "software rendering mode". That's sort of the equivalent of running in a graphics safe mode because you don't have the proper drivers installed.

Yes it did say, that I was using version 2 instead 22 of the AMD drivers, and that still didn't fix it and it's back to version 2 somehow, and I need to figure it out to make Blender perform a bit better, but it's still good enough to work with right now. I hate Arch Linux

 

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Sorry dood but I really don't know much about arch. If you were were debian or rpm I'm a bit of a guru but I never bothered with arch.

 

[tripleU]

Sorry dood but I really don't know much about arch. If you were were debian or rpm I'm a bit of a guru but I never bothered with arch.

They are pretty much the same but different at the very low level, distros are just assembles of Linux, GNU Coreutils, a Package Manager and other things. The major difference between Debian and Arch Linux, is that nothing is installed, so you have to spend hours figuring out what the distro could do itself and the community hates itself and also this, if you install x42, you get this, completely useless, you don't need them as separate standalone apps.

 

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so you have to spend hours figuring out what the distro could do

For that specific reason and because I used to install Linux for a lot of other people I tend to stick to the two majors: Fedora and Ubuntu.

I play with others from time to time but getting the right drivers and getting all the other bits and peices you want always ends up being a hassle.

 

[tripleU]

For that specific reason and because I used to install Linux for a lot of other people I tend to stick to the two majors: Fedora and Ubuntu.

I play with others from time to time but getting the right drivers and getting all the other bits and peices you want always ends up being a hassle.

MuseScore doesn't show anything when launched and if you launch from the terminal, it shows a lib error, and I can't update my system because that is broken, but the AppImage works.
450 updates pending because of that and my system is also boiling on idle.

I also like the Package manager's syntax
It has 9 commands as single letter's, so -S for sync (install), -R for remove, but you use small letter's after that to modify the command, so -Sy synchronizes the package database and installing, -Syu updates and synchronizes the package database. -Rc removes dependent packages too, it's a big maze with a simple philosiphy.

 

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I agree with you there. Sometimes like when browsing having a graphical package manager is handy too. In debian systems I love Synaptic. In rpm systems I used to really love yum and yumex, but now Fedora uses dnf and Dragora. On the command line dnf is great but the only graphical interface, Dragora, sucks.

 

[tripleU]

I agree with you there. Sometimes like when browsing having a graphical package manager is handy too. In debian systems I love Synaptic. In rpm systems I used to really love yum and yumex, but now Fedora uses dnf and Dragora. On the command line dnf is great but the only graphical interface, Dragora, sucks.

I also tried making a package manager in Java, but left due to horrible code requiring a full rewrite. I called it ypm, It could be made much more simply without the whole Java Object oriented mess.

 

[Boogs]

I may have the wrong take on what you're doing, but trying to run a Windows native app/game on Linux will never work well, because it's having to run through a windows emulator of some sort (used to use Wine(?) if I recall, unless something much cleverer is now in place in Linux), and this is very likely why you get bad performance.

Linux is far and away one of the most efficient, stable and customisable uses of a computer you can get. You can even take the source code and recompile it without any of the modules you don't need, to create tiny footprint OS that flies along and runs the hardware better than most anything bar a complete custom built OS for that device.
The Windows (windoze) OS is far more clunky and bogged down with inefficient code. They had to 'cheat' years ago when MS realised they needed to become graphics (game) friendly, and things like ActiveX were written to 'slice' through the layers of the OS - not a normally good thing, as it leapfrogs all kinds of protections in the system (to prevent malicious code executing at what would be Windows equivalent of ring zero, running in things like NTDLL.dll and Kernal32.dll, where the the thread of execution has total control over everything).
The biggest advantage of Windows is the huge range of software and hardware available. You want to play the latest games? It's a console, or Windows, for the best range of options.

Basically, the OS had not been originally designed with this sort of realtime graphics performance in mind, plus the constraints of backward compatibility. When they redesigned windows for the NT series (and later, all versions of windows) in the 90's, they brought in a guy called Cutler (if memory serves) who worked on the VAX VMS OS system, a mini computer shared-use OS (mostly run off text-based terminals in my day), but still in use today in many banking systems due to it's power and security in the appropriate areas. NT did an excellent job (formatting a floppy without freezing the whole OS during it was a revelation for Windows!), but it was never specced up as a games machine, only as a business machine (remembering PC's were only 10/15 years old or so). No-one imagined they'd ever be running real time 3D graphics engines of such detail and power, when still on their 486DX cpu!
I even remember the first pre-release Windows 95, with it's 1 inch sized, 10 second long video demos, wowing all in the office (after 22 floppy disks worth of installation! ) for all of 2 minutes before getting bored!

I rarely touch Linux at all for a long time, but have much admiration for it. My biggest pet hate is the huge range of types and services in use. Like different package managers and desktop shells, and so on. For a dabbler who doesn't spend much time in it, or who flits from one type to another (e.g. Redhat, Debian, etc etc), it's seems a lot harder to be fluent on in the command line shells. Having just one type to learn, such as Kali, probably the best for pen testing and security work in general, ain't so bad, once you learn the vagaries of one system, it's less of a hassle getting them configured and customised.
There's a good reason why most of the worlds web servers run on Linux not Windows, and it isn't just cost! you can run all sorts of servers and the like on otherwise defunct equipment. Want a cheap NAS for the home? Get an old laptop (the battery gives you a built-in UPS!), bung a suitable cut of Linux on it, download an install a free NAS, plug in all the diskspace you need, and plug it into your router via an ethernet cable. Job done! And enough cash left for a bottle or two to celebrate!

 

[DaisyRose]

Hi, welcome to the forum! Hope you have a fun time here. A lot of cool people are on here chilling and hanging out.

 

[tripleU]

Hi, welcome to the forum! Hope you have a fun time here. A lot of cool people are on here chilling and hanging out.

I am not new, we are about the same age here

 

[Boogs]

I am not new, we are about the same age here

Or was that @ me?

 

[tripleU]

Or was that @ me?

Oh you mean, that you were browsing this forum for years and registered now, I just registered when saw this forum's existance