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Hi, all! Son not diagnosed yet, but I expect Asperger's.

Hello, everyone. I'm Cleopatra's Asp, which is a pun on Asperger's and also a reference to the fact that my son's imminent diagnosis kind of reached around and bit me. I'm still reeling in shock, especially because I've tutored and worked with Aspies--and because our son presents differently from the ones I've worked with, I completely missed it in him.

He's our only child, and neither of us has ever been around children otherwise, so he's our baseline for how children behave. All through school, we've had teachers tell us that he was a "little different," or "very independent," or "highly imaginative," or something like that. We've never pursued having him tested for any learning or developmental disabilities because, to us, he was normal and we didn't see the point because he still managed to do okay in school.

Suddenly this year, his school performance has tanked, and we're seeing patterns in his behavior that were there all along but we either didn't pay attention or didn't think it was that different from the norm. All of a sudden, his executive function problems are taking over his whole life and he's just floundering. Trying hard, but meeting with no success. Also, his meltdowns and odd behaviors, which we expected him to outgrow by this time, are still very much in evidence. (Flailing his arms when he gets corrected, or when he can't think of a word, for example. Having zero ability to connect cause with effect, or action with consequence. Being thoughtlessly cruel to an animal, but melting down into tears when it's pointed out to him, for other examples.)

We have initiated the process to have the school test him for learning or developmental disabilities, but I'm not sure whether that's the best thing to do or not. Should we get him tested privately at our own expense? Should we rely on the school for a diagnosis? CAN a school even make a diagnosis? Should he be seen by an autism specialist? I'm also expecting an ADHD diagnosis too. I'm not even sure where to go or what to do next.

Anyway, I'm learning lots just reading these forums, and you guys are encouraging me already! So thank you, and please excuse my ignorance, and I look forward to hanging out with you all a lot more!
 
May be some autism there too, not expert but think late onset happens sometimes?, check on that. Don't understand the mean animal thing or out bursts, but am relitively high 1/2 auti 1/2 aspie?
 
Welcome :)

Those are some complex questions. It would probably depend on a number of variables. Perhaps if you were to tell us where you are from, then you may find members from your area, who may have answers. I recommend asking this question in the "Parenting" section though, as not everyone will check the "Introductory" threads. I'll provide you with a few links below, which might prove useful.

Parenting Section: Parenting & Autism Discussions | AspiesCentral.com

Resources (books, web sites, etc.): Autism & Asperger's Resources | AspiesCentral.com

Dr. Tony Attwood (world renown specialist): Home
 
First off, welcome! :)

I may have misread your post, but I didn't see any mention of how old your son is. That could make a lot of difference.

Suddenly this year, his school performance has tanked, and we're seeing patterns in his behavior that were there all along but we either didn't pay attention or didn't think it was that different from the norm. All of a sudden, his executive function problems are taking over his whole life and he's just floundering.
This is PRECISELY what happened to me around fifth or sixth grade, and when my family really started noticing that I had problems.

As per whether allowing the school to give him a diagnosis...well, that depends entirely on the school. Some schools have excellent psychological services at their disposal, and others are woefully inadequate in that department. If you're in doubt, I'd recommend going to a private evaluator (and, if possible, vetting your options as to who you would like to evaluate him).

Good luck!

wyv
 
Hello, everyone. I'm Cleopatra's Asp, which is a pun on Asperger's and also a reference to the fact that my son's imminent diagnosis kind of reached around and bit me.

Welcome to AC.

I think if you read enough of our posts here, you'll find most of us don't bite and aren't poisonous. ;)

I'm inclined to believe things begin to change for the better with self-awareness first and foremost. When your son can come to grips with who and what he is and begins to adjust accordingly on his own terms.
 
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Hey,

This sounds fairly similar to my experiences last year when I was in year 6.

I think he probably has a bit of autism. There's a large chance I'm wrong though.

On the topic of grades dropping if he has trouble with homework I find if I stay after school to do my homework it's easier because I relate education with school. If he does a similar thing that could be beneficial.

I feel like I should stress that these are just my opinions and only suggestions.

Sarah
 
Hello, everyone. I'm Cleopatra's Asp, which is a pun on Asperger's and also a reference to the fact that my son's imminent diagnosis kind of reached around and bit me. I'm still reeling in shock, especially because I've tutored and worked with Aspies--and because our son presents differently from the ones I've worked with, I completely missed it in him.

He's our only child, and neither of us has ever been around children otherwise, so he's our baseline for how children behave. All through school, we've had teachers tell us that he was a "little different," or "very independent," or "highly imaginative," or something like that. We've never pursued having him tested for any learning or developmental disabilities because, to us, he was normal and we didn't see the point because he still managed to do okay in school.

Suddenly this year, his school performance has tanked, and we're seeing patterns in his behavior that were there all along but we either didn't pay attention or didn't think it was that different from the norm. All of a sudden, his executive function problems are taking over his whole life and he's just floundering. Trying hard, but meeting with no success. Also, his meltdowns and odd behaviors, which we expected him to outgrow by this time, are still very much in evidence. (Flailing his arms when he gets corrected, or when he can't think of a word, for example. Having zero ability to connect cause with effect, or action with consequence. Being thoughtlessly cruel to an animal, but melting down into tears when it's pointed out to him, for other examples.)

We have initiated the process to have the school test him for learning or developmental disabilities, but I'm not sure whether that's the best thing to do or not. Should we get him tested privately at our own expense? Should we rely on the school for a diagnosis? CAN a school even make a diagnosis? Should he be seen by an autism specialist? I'm also expecting an ADHD diagnosis too. I'm not even sure where to go or what to do next.

Anyway, I'm learning lots just reading these forums, and you guys are encouraging me already! So thank you, and please excuse my ignorance, and I look forward to hanging out with you all a lot more!

I have family kids around me. public schools. labels. ugh. That's all I can say.

as for the cat,........Curious!!!! is he doing this on purpose? Is it for negative attention? (while you are busy cooking dinner) Or is it, that, he honestly, innocently, does not know how hard he is petting the cat? ?? I know a kid with similar issues!

Please could you keep us posted? Please let us know how this ALL turns out! Thank you!
 
Hi there!

This definitely sounds like he may have some symptoms of autism with ADHD mixed in. In my own experience getting tested through a school is iffy, it's not guaranteed they'll give you a 100% accurate diagnosis. It would probably be better to see a specialist to get him tested, they will definitely give you a more definite and accurate answer and the school will be able to help out more effectively. I say this only because my sister was inaccurately diagnosed by multiple school systems until we finally went a professional who pin pointed it as ADHD, then she got the proper help and accommodations she needed by the school.
So hope that helps you in making that decision! Oh and I myself was diagnosed with autism at 4 and had similar symptoms your son does. Now that I'm 22 and after having gone through neurological treatment (and having a loving supportive family of course) I'm off on my own at college and going for my BFA. So #1 tip. Don't lose hope of your sons future, you have no idea how he'll be in 10 or 20 years. With some treatment and luck, and awesome family support, he's gonna be fine, very creative and with unique perspectives, but fine ;)
 

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