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Hi. I'm 44 and just discovered I may have Aspergers

sonnesun

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Hello everyone.

I've come here because after chatting with family. My brothers wife believes I may have Asperger Syndrome. I initially thought I was bipolar which turned out to be false, but people with Asperger's can also struggle hard with depression too, hence my confusion. Chatting with my mum she knew since I was very little I had social developmental problems.

I've done a bit of research into it, and a close friend helped me with an online test (I know they're not conclusive) which I came out quite high on, just 4 points below Definitely, so it's telling me it's highly likely. But the test doesn't paint the whole picture and left out many factors. For a start, I have always struggled keeping down a job which involves multitask repetition as it often confused me, the more tedious the job is, the worse and slower I am. Hence why I always fell behind work in factory production lines. I was always able to hold down cleaning jobs in department stores though, as that would be an unchanging set pattern I would learn, and not having to multitask, rush and keep up.

I do have trouble multitasking, and holding more than one conversation. The many amount of times my friend tried talking to me on webcam whilst I was busy on a website and I don't hear her.

There's many other behavioural factors come into play from childhood up to the present day which I have taken into consideration. Petty pilfering when I was young is one. I also used to rock back and forth on a chair from infancy right through to my young teenage years, always to music. Repetitive behaviour? I find this quite significant.

Because it has never been diagnosed and treated, my issues just lingered and became worse over time. I have read somewhere that people with Asperger's often lack self-esteem, can be easily led and gullible in social behaviour, which was definitely me when I was young. It's the not knowing which holds me back in my life. No idea what's wrong with me and how to correct it. It's made me into a reckless person, I feel I haven't been able to mature as quickly as I would have liked to this day. I have always been an anxious person right back to when I was a small child. I actually didn't realise it was anxiety until my 30's, so it was actually more frightening to me sending me into a permanent nightmarish daze for maybe hours. Since I've realised it was anxiety, the daze spells has stopped. I guess not knowing it was anxiety brought upon even more anxiety on me.

"May not understand social banter and become the target of bullying and teasing."...Yep for most of my life. I also know this with me on certain online banter forums. I would take things too literally (another symptom) in the off-topic areas, and would become very neurotic at other people. in the end I was bullied and trolled relentlessly. I've since learned to manage this though.

I also pay a great deal of attention to detail in what I write and how I write things, checking spelling mistakes and grammar. It made me remember that I would often delete posts and repost it with corrections, as I HATE the "edited by" tag underneath, which has annoyed a few in the past. Attention with the smallest details is common with Asperger's too I believe? I guess this is why my grammar is pretty good, and I like to explain things in a more concise direct way. It still turns into a bloody essay though. Unfortunately a few people mistake my more direct manner as patronising.

My lack of self esteem grew more serious well into my adult life as I also grew up with Cleft Palate which is a facial disfigurement, and speech impairment. It was very severe for most of my life with its own separate set of social stigmas and social anxieties too, then couple this with Asperger's and that's a pretty lethal combination. Most people I know with Cleft palate and speech problems aren't Asperger's and lead full happy productive lives, so I know it's nothing to do with that although it likely helped aggravate it. My speech therapist told my mum that it was just due to my speech problems when I was little, maybe it plays a factor but I feel it's a misdiagnosis. Again, more recently a councilor believed I had nothing more than anxiety. I disagree, besides she wasn't an expert either.

It has also made me more aware of this odd tic I have, where I would subconsciously quickly flinch my head to the right side and back again with a quiet erk noise occasionally. Yep I know how strange that sounds. I've read that it's called a stimmer in the ASD community? There are other factors which further confirms my belief of AS, but they're some of my main findings. Why am I suddenly starting to feel a personal connection with that kid "Tweek" out of South Park?

If I am finally diagnosed with this, then I finally have the answers to just about everything, that I don't just do certain things solely because I'm stupid, lazy, unintelligent, uncaring, careless and thoughtless without a conscience, etc. It's far more involved and deeper than that. Hopefully I can then move on which will help alleviate much of the stresses which I've carried over the course of a lifetime.

Anyway I will end it here for now. If I'm not on the autism spectrum disorder then I must have something nobody else in the world has, as it's far more than just simple anxiety that I feel I've also been misdiagnosed with.

Do you think it's likely I have Asperger Syndrome? Anyway if you've gotten this far, thanks for reading.

Edit: Eek, it has a "last edited" tag at the bottom and I can't delete and repost. Nooooooooo, lol.
 
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Hello everyone.

I've come here because after chatting with family. My brothers wife believes I may have Asperger Syndrome. I initially thought I was bipolar which turned out to be false, but people with Asperger's can also struggle hard with depression too, hence my confusion. Chatting with my mum she knew since I was very little I had social developmental problems.

I've done a bit of research into it, and a close friend helped me with an online test (I know they're not conclusive) which I came out quite high on, just 4 points below Definitely, so it's telling me it's highly likely. But the test doesn't paint the whole picture and left out many factors. For a start, I have always struggled keeping down a job which involves multitask repetition as it often confused me, the more tedious the the job is, the worse and slower I am. Hence why I always fell behind work in factory production lines.

I do have trouble multitasking, and holding more than one conversation. The many amount of times my friend tried talking to me on webcam whilst I was busy on a website and I don't hear her.

There's many other behavioural factors come into play from childhood up to the present day which I have taken into consideration. Petty pilfering when I was young is one. I also used to rock back and forth on a chair from infancy right through to my young teenage years, always to music. Repetitive behaviour? I find this quite significant.

Because it has never been diagnosed and treated, my issues just lingered and became worse over time. I have read somewhere that people with Asperger's often lack self-esteem, can be easily led and gullible in social behaviour, which was definitely me when I was young. It's the not knowing which holds me back in my life. No idea what's wrong with me and how to correct it. It's made me into a reckless person, I feel I haven't been able to mature as quickly as I would have liked to this day.

"May not understand social banter and become the target of bullying and teasing."...Yep for most of my life. I also know this with me on certain online banter forums. I would take things too literally (another symptom) in the off-topic areas, and would become very neurotic at other people. in the end I was bullied and trolled relentlessly. I've since learned to manage this though.

I also pay a great deal of attention to detail in what I write and how I write things, checking spelling mistakes and grammar. It made me remember that I would often delete posts and repost it with corrections, as I HATE the "edited by" tag underneath, which has annoyed a few in the past. Attention with the smallest details is common with Asperger's too I believe? I guess this is why my grammar is pretty good, and I like to explain things in a more concise direct way. It still turns into a bloody essay though. Unfortunately a few people mistake my more direct manner as patronising.

My lack of self esteem grew more serious well into my adult life as I also grew up with Cleft Palate which is a facial disfigurement, and speech impairment. It was very severe for most of my life with its own separate set of social stigmas and social anxieties too, then couple this with Asperger's and that's a pretty lethal combination. Most people I know with Cleft palate and speech problems aren't Asperger's and lead full happy productive lives, so I know it's nothing to do with that although it likely helped aggravate it. My speech therapist told my mum that it was just due to my speech problems when I was little, maybe it plays a factor but I feel it's a misdiagnosis.

It has also made me more aware of this odd tic I have, where I would subconsciously quickly flinch my head to the right side and back again with a quiet erk noise occasionally. Yep I know how strange that sounds. I've read that it's called a stimmer in the ASD community? There are other factors which further confirms my belief of AS, but they're some of my main findings. Why am I suddenly starting to feel a personal connection with that kid "Tweek" out of South Park?

If I am finally diagnosed with this, then I finally have the answers to just about everything, that I don't just do certain things solely because I'm stupid, lazy, unintelligent, uncaring, careless and thoughtless without a conscience, etc. It's far more involved and deeper than that. Hopefully I can then move on which will help alleviate much of the stresses which I've carried over the course of a lifetime.

Anyway I will end it here for now. If I'm not on the autism spectrum disorder then I must have something nobody else in the world has, as it's far more than just simple anxiety that I feel I've also been misdiagnosed with.

Do you think it's likely I have Asperger Syndrome? Anyway if you've gotten this far, thanks for reading.

Hi sonnesun, welcome :)

I am also on the journey towards finding out if I am an aspie.

There are lots of very helpful people here, most could answer your question better than I could so I'll leave that to them.

:)
 
Hi, welcome to you. We will add your distinctiveness to our collective.

Resistance is futile (if less than 1 milli ohm)

:D
 
Edit: Eek, it has a "last edited" tag at the bottom and I can't delete and repost. Nooooooooo, lol.
Lol. I noticed a pattern in my posts that after my third time editing and saving edits, that "last edited" tag will appear. I find it annoying too that I can't delete then re-post. The key is, for next time, only edit twice then save to avoid the bottom-line tag.
 
Yup I'm always editing, I just did it again to remove another annoying typo, lol. Thanks for the tip, although I will likely end up editing more than twice anyway.

Does it sound like I may be onto something with my self-diagnosis to anyone? I can't think what else it could be.

PS. At least I now know that I'm able to delete replies :)
 
Does it sound like I may be onto something with my self-diagnosis to anyone? I can't think what else it could be.

It's certainly worth pursuing. You came to the right place, to interact with others and that in the process you might find you have much in common with us.

So many out there manage to "slip under the radar" without ever knowing or suspecting. I didn't begin to work it all out until my mid-fifties.

Welcome to AC.
 
You seem to have a combination of things, which haven't caused your Asperger's, you've got that anyway, but has made your existing difficulties worse, and possibly masked some of them.
Why hasn't your cleft palate been treated? I was under the impression cleft lip and cleft palate could be operated on.
 
Hi Kath,
My cleft palate has been treated over the course of a lifetime. Many difficult surgeries with long painful recuperation times. I've lost half my teeth due to the complications. My speech was improved in 1997 when I was 25. Before that I was very difficult to understand. I still sound nasally though and have some trouble with pronounciations due to the cleft. and my voice tone still occasionally makes people uncomfortable around me. My face was largely repaired during the final surgery back in 2006 when I was 34. You can still tell I am cleft by my appearance but I do look lots better than I used to. My disfigurement especially before 2003 was severe, so imagine having both this and Asperger, and especially not knowing you had the latter. I was basically a confused emotional mess with literally NO self-esteem in my younger days, and still am to some extent, although I tend to speak up with more self-assured confidence now and slightly less intimidated than before. Comes with age and experience I guess. all these handicaps has their own separate sets of anxieties, and family largely didn't understand my problems. Some still don't. I am on ESA in the support group and I am terrified that one day I may lose that due to cuts. I just know I wouldn't cope without the support now due to my limitations, and I've become pretty much housebound.
 
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You seem to have a combination of things, which haven't caused your Asperger's, you've got that anyway, but has made your existing difficulties worse, and possibly masked some of them.
After thinking long and hard, I believe you make a very true point. My speech issues and facial disfigurement are physically noticeable, so this has clearly masked my invisible Asperger's from being diagnosed. For years I thought it was esteem and confidence issues down to my CL&P, but now I see that it's only made the difficulties on living with Asperger worse, especially as I've been unaware that I'm an aspie.. This confusion has literally driven me to completely self-destruct. I've lost my partner, my children and lots of family over my social-anxiety problems which eventually the whole frustration gave me (non-violent) anger issues. I'm now alone going through the worst personal crisis in my life due to something I don't wish to discuss here, but I feel there is a connection. My life has always felt in many ways controlled rather than me being in control of it. I guess all this can be saved for another thread. I only made this topic to say Hi, and to see if anybody agreed that I may have the syndrome.

Anyway, thanks for the warm welcome everyone.
 
Yup I'm always editing, I just did it again to remove another annoying typo, lol. Thanks for the tip, although I will likely end up editing more than twice anyway.

Does it sound like I may be onto something with my self-diagnosis to anyone? I can't think what else it could be.

PS. At least I now know that I'm able to delete replies :)
Hi there, you will need to see a clinical psych to confirm but it sure sounds as though you are Aspy. I only had my diagnosis last week & it has brought a real sense of calm & validation after so many years of pretense & trying to be 'normal'. Now I am free in the knowledge I can be myself & I am not alone. Good luck Sweet
 
Hello everyone.

I've come here because after chatting with family. My brothers wife believes I may have Asperger Syndrome. I initially thought I was bipolar which turned out to be false, but people with Asperger's can also struggle hard with depression too, hence my confusion. Chatting with my mum she knew since I was very little I had social developmental problems.

I've done a bit of research into it, and a close friend helped me with an online test (I know they're not conclusive) which I came out quite high on, just 4 points below Definitely, so it's telling me it's highly likely. But the test doesn't paint the whole picture and left out many factors. For a start, I have always struggled keeping down a job which involves multitask repetition as it often confused me, the more tedious the job is, the worse and slower I am. Hence why I always fell behind work in factory production lines. I was always able to hold down cleaning jobs in department stores though, as that would be an unchanging set pattern I would learn, and not having to multitask, rush and keep up.

I do have trouble multitasking, and holding more than one conversation. The many amount of times my friend tried talking to me on webcam whilst I was busy on a website and I don't hear her.

There's many other behavioural factors come into play from childhood up to the present day which I have taken into consideration. Petty pilfering when I was young is one. I also used to rock back and forth on a chair from infancy right through to my young teenage years, always to music. Repetitive behaviour? I find this quite significant.

Because it has never been diagnosed and treated, my issues just lingered and became worse over time. I have read somewhere that people with Asperger's often lack self-esteem, can be easily led and gullible in social behaviour, which was definitely me when I was young. It's the not knowing which holds me back in my life. No idea what's wrong with me and how to correct it. It's made me into a reckless person, I feel I haven't been able to mature as quickly as I would have liked to this day. I have always been an anxious person right back to when I was a small child. I actually didn't realise it was anxiety until my 30's, so it was actually more frightening to me sending me into a permanent nightmarish daze for maybe hours. Since I've realised it was anxiety, the daze spells has stopped. I guess not knowing it was anxiety brought upon even more anxiety on me.

"May not understand social banter and become the target of bullying and teasing."...Yep for most of my life. I also know this with me on certain online banter forums. I would take things too literally (another symptom) in the off-topic areas, and would become very neurotic at other people. in the end I was bullied and trolled relentlessly. I've since learned to manage this though.

I also pay a great deal of attention to detail in what I write and how I write things, checking spelling mistakes and grammar. It made me remember that I would often delete posts and repost it with corrections, as I HATE the "edited by" tag underneath, which has annoyed a few in the past. Attention with the smallest details is common with Asperger's too I believe? I guess this is why my grammar is pretty good, and I like to explain things in a more concise direct way. It still turns into a bloody essay though. Unfortunately a few people mistake my more direct manner as patronising.

My lack of self esteem grew more serious well into my adult life as I also grew up with Cleft Palate which is a facial disfigurement, and speech impairment. It was very severe for most of my life with its own separate set of social stigmas and social anxieties too, then couple this with Asperger's and that's a pretty lethal combination. Most people I know with Cleft palate and speech problems aren't Asperger's and lead full happy productive lives, so I know it's nothing to do with that although it likely helped aggravate it. My speech therapist told my mum that it was just due to my speech problems when I was little, maybe it plays a factor but I feel it's a misdiagnosis. Again, more recently a councilor believed I had nothing more than anxiety. I disagree, besides she wasn't an expert either.

It has also made me more aware of this odd tic I have, where I would subconsciously quickly flinch my head to the right side and back again with a quiet erk noise occasionally. Yep I know how strange that sounds. I've read that it's called a stimmer in the ASD community? There are other factors which further confirms my belief of AS, but they're some of my main findings. Why am I suddenly starting to feel a personal connection with that kid "Tweek" out of South Park?

If I am finally diagnosed with this, then I finally have the answers to just about everything, that I don't just do certain things solely because I'm stupid, lazy, unintelligent, uncaring, careless and thoughtless without a conscience, etc. It's far more involved and deeper than that. Hopefully I can then move on which will help alleviate much of the stresses which I've carried over the course of a lifetime.

Anyway I will end it here for now. If I'm not on the autism spectrum disorder then I must have something nobody else in the world has, as it's far more than just simple anxiety that I feel I've also been misdiagnosed with.

Do you think it's likely I have Asperger Syndrome? Anyway if you've gotten this far, thanks for reading.

Edit: Eek, it has a "last edited" tag at the bottom and I can't delete and repost. Nooooooooo, lol.



Hi there! I'm new here myself. Your comment about moving on from the default position of "I must be lazy/stupid/thoughtless etc" is very familiar. I was diagnosed a few years back (I'm 47 now) and, after a period of adjustment (incuding a grieving process, I believe, for the years spent thinking I was to blame for all my difficulties) it's become a pretty positive experience. I haven't had a significant bout of depression (which I prefer to think of as despair) since my diagnosis, although anxiety is still a constant companion.

I count myself particularly luck to have fallen in with a psychotherapist, here in the UK, who is at the forefront of developing a new method of Transactional Analysis, specifically for Aspies and NT therapists working with them. Its truly groundbreaking stuff that I believe with make an enormous difference to the quality of life for Aspies everywhere, and I feel exceptionally privilleged to be a part of it. Watch this space, as it's going public very soon and I can't wait to share it with everyone.
 
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Welcome to AC.
There are a number of us here who discovered Aspergers in middle age or later, so you are in good company.
If you are wanting to know more about Aspergers, I highly recommend anything by Tony Attwood, particularly "The Complete Guide to Aspergers".
And of course, feel free to browse around and ask questions.
 

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