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Holidays, Aspies & Autistic

Dadwith2Autisticsons

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Hi Everyone,

As another holiday is coming up in the US soon, I was just wondering how you all felt about holidays in general, or more specifically if you like a certain holidays more than others? Do you get excited about them, depressed or more anxious, or does it feel just like another day of the week and more neutral for you?

What is it that you like best? What is it that you do not like? Any preparations for Father's Day in a few days? What are your expectations for holidays? Can they differ from societal expectations? Do you make lots of plans? Or are you more spontaneous, and prefer being surprised with new things and new ways to celebrate each year?

Personally, as a person with Social Anxiety, and being conditioned growing not to get too up or too down for anything, including for holidays, as we could get yelled at at any moment, or see fights break out, with a mother often being suicidal during such times and all stressed out too, if things were not done her way, and with a father being angry and drunk then, I learned not to find much thrill with any day, much less holidays. I did not have major depression though from holidays, but static milder depression.

I did like tradition though, like for Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter. Growing up my mother tried; I will say that. She would make a big feast for Thanksgiving Day, and we would watch the parades on television and then American football. For Christmas, we had holiday music, watched Christmas kids shows, and got lots of presents. And for Easter the baskets were filled with sweets that we had to find hidden in the home. For these holidays I felt some internal milder joy, but I could not show outward happiness. I could not trust my parents to show that.

Any other holiday I admit I did not have any happiness at all. I then with my parents did not look forward to my birthday, Mother's Day or Father's Day, as the attention would be on me or my parents, but I would be kind and get gifts for my parents on their days, that I felt each would like and wanting to please them, despite being upset at each for many things. I felt like I did not deserve gifts growing up because of very low self-esteem, so focused on giving. I worried Holidays was making us poorer, so I hoped I would not get much.

I always appreciated holidays for those who sacrificed or who died. I always had lots of empathy for those who gave their all, and for those who are no longer here, regardless if they were perfect in life, as they could have been products of their genes or environments, too. I always wished there were a general holiday for all those who feel special and different, including those too with any condition, whether physical or mental. I see no general holidays for people like that. There should be no person singled out, or no focus just on any one group.

Those are just my experiences and beliefs. Only answer what you can. If it causes too much stress answering all, just pick one point or two to share your views. Our two children are Autistic, so I was just curious how you all felt. I am also trying to enjoy holidays more with my current family. Thanks.
 
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For me, holidays are just another day for me. I like Christmas because I like playing with Christmas lights and all the cool thing that you can do with them and see the lights others have put up. But that's it.

I should say that Christmas can be depressing at time because my family is all gone now. I really don't like Father's day because my dad has abandoned me since I was little.
 
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"Oh look it's Monday. Some people are eating special chicken or something but they can do that any day and today is literally the same as any other."
 
Hate 99% of children as they are so badly behaved and selfish
so holidays are something to dread
only time i like them (what i legally have to call children )are not loose but imprisoned in their houses
people are so litigious now
 
i absolutely hate holidays,when i was at school my behavior got incredibly worse when it was a school holiday and there was no school,i dreaded the school summer holidays which in the UK is 6 weeks long.
i dont like things that change my routine,if its a holiday that just means getting your mum or dad a present, ie mothers or fathers day then im ok with that, but bank holidays and so forth i dread with a passion and it does affect my behavior.
 
My wife and I were just talking a bit more about this topic, and we were thinking about creating our own. I mean we may keep a couple of traditional ones for our children, and as they are developing likeness for those, but for the rest, we focus on developing new holidays.

Like, pick a day each year to visit local State landmarks. Have also some specific Autumn festival day for our children to go to a pumpkin patch and corn maze. Have a short vacation each year away from our state, to do things together as a family. That can be considered a holiday, and we could name that.

Have a get together each year with others with Autism or Aspergers to meet. That could be seen as a yearly event. Also, have a special day to take the kids to a large children's museum day, or some big sensory exhibits center each year. Have an Arts and Entertainment Day. Have a Family Day to do something entirely new.

I guess what I mean is besides a couple of important traditional holidays we as a family celebrate, based on which we like or believe in the best, discard all those others that are celebrated by the masses. Create our own new holidays, name them, and pick a day out each year to try to enjoy such.

As we often feel different from the masses, show most holidays in our own unique ways, by changing up things or creating new ones. Think outside of the box, and let's not others determine what makes us happy and how we should celebrate, but let each family or person decide for them what type of event or holiday they would like to do each year for them, that they would find relaxing or joyous.

In other words, try as best as possible to tune out those holidays you do not believe in, or eliminate them, or change them to do as you see fit, but most of all, create new ones, too, and develop new happier traditions, if desired.
 
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Or are you more spontaneous, and prefer being surprised with new things and new ways to celebrate each year?

I'm sure I won't be alone in saying definitely not this.

I'm rather indifferent to my birthday, and father's day is just another day as my Dad has always said it's just a thing made up by card companies to make money, so we've never bought him anything. My husband's family normally have a BBQ for it, and they are having one this Sunday. I don't mind going to do that, as BBQ food is always nice.

I used to be a massive fan of Christmas, and the house would look like santa's grotto with all the decorations. Last year was the first one where I just didn't really feel like it. I'm sort of indifferent to it now, and I think it's down to my anxiety getting worse. I just get really fed up with all of the stuff surrounding it; the adverts, the music, the pressure, having to see people.
 
My least favorite holidays are my birthday and Mother's Day. Mother's Day is freaking everyday in this world, good or bad, up/down or indifferent. So why should there be one day where we are supposed to drop everything and focus on the notion of Mom, which is all anyone ever does.

And my birthday just seems like a day where anyone who otherwise wouldn't have considered me feels obligated to be personally victimized by my existence. With crappy cake and presents!

Thanksgiving. A big feast with people's favorite dishes sounds so nice. I wish it went more that way. But I also don't think families are able to be real with one another, let alone cook loving food.

Government holidays like Labor Day or Memorial Day. Totally not related to their initial conception. Why do douche bags load up in their Suburbans and all go on a three day trip to the lake? Maybe if they actually could enjoy their time off, it would be more tolerable.

Easter. How did Jesus' resurrection become an extended Mother's Day?

Fourth of July used to be one of my favorites. Like a hobbit, I really like fireworks. But it seems like you have to brave crowds to see a good show. No thanks. And I like summer berries with yellow cake and cream!!!

Christmas. I was able to give my family one small nice one once. Can't afford to now. I want to do it up big just one year with cold weather, hot chocolate, tons of lights, tons of gifts, lots of sweets. Don't care much for ornaments, the music, or over animated people. I just want to get the chance one day to take all the things I think are good about Christmas and ignore the bad.

Halloween comes at a fun time of year in the US. there's got to be a way to make it cool.

Father's Day...wish we could make everyday it for a while to counteract the reverse, but you only celebrate under one condition: you gotta like and respect your dad and/or your kids' dad. If you don't, just skip it.
 
Holidays are for family gatherings and to bolster the bottom line of various commercial entities. Most of my family has been gone for a very long time, and I've never invested in confections.

So I suppose holidays for me are just another "window" where I'm on the outside looking in.
 
My wife and I were just talking a bit more about this topic, and we were thinking about creating our own. I mean we may keep a couple of traditional ones for our children, and as they are developing likeness for those, but for the rest, we focus on developing new holidays.

Like, pick a day each year to visit local State landmarks. Have also some specific Autumn festival day for our children to go to a pumpkin patch and corn maze. Have a short vacation each year away from our state, to do things together as a family. That can be considered a holiday, and we could name that.

Have a get together each year with others with Autism or Aspergers to meet. That could be seen as a yearly event. Also, have a special day to take the kids to a large children's museum day, or some big sensory exhibits center each year. Have an Arts and Entertainment Day. Have a Family Day to do something entirely new.

I guess what I mean is besides a couple of important traditional holidays we as a family celebrate, based on which we like or believe in the best, discard all those others that are celebrated by the masses. Create our own new holidays, name them, and pick a day out each year to try to enjoy such.

As we often feel different from the masses, show most holidays in our own unique ways, by changing up things or creating new ones. Think outside of the box, and let's not others determine what makes us happy and how we should celebrate, but let each family or person decide for them what type of event or holiday they would like to do each year for them, that they would find relaxing or joyous.

In other words, try as best as possible to tune out those holidays you do not believe in, or eliminate them, or change them to do as you see fit, but most of all, create new ones, too, and develop new happier traditions, if desired.
Cant avoid brats they're like flies
 
My least favorite holidays are my birthday and Mother's Day. Mother's Day is freaking everyday in this world, good or bad, up/down or indifferent. So why should there be one day where we are supposed to drop everything and focus on the notion of Mom, which is all anyone ever does.

And my birthday just seems like a day where anyone who otherwise wouldn't have considered me feels obligated to be personally victimized by my existence. With crappy cake and presents!

Thanksgiving. A big feast with people's favorite dishes sounds so nice. I wish it went more that way. But I also don't think families are able to be real with one another, let alone cook loving food.

Government holidays like Labor Day or Memorial Day. Totally not related to their initial conception. Why do douche bags load up in their Suburbans and all go on a three day trip to the lake? Maybe if they actually could enjoy their time off, it would be more tolerable.

Easter. How did Jesus' resurrection become an extended Mother's Day?

Fourth of July used to be one of my favorites. Like a hobbit, I really like fireworks. But it seems like you have to brave crowds to see a good show. No thanks. And I like summer berries with yellow cake and cream!!!

Christmas. I was able to give my family one small nice one once. Can't afford to now. I want to do it up big just one year with cold weather, hot chocolate, tons of lights, tons of gifts, lots of sweets. Don't care much for ornaments, the music, or over animated people. I just want to get the chance one day to take all the things I think are good about Christmas and ignore the bad.

Halloween comes at a fun time of year in the US. there's got to be a way to make it cool.

Father's Day...wish we could make everyday it for a while to counteract the reverse, but you only celebrate under one condition: you gotta like and respect your dad and/or your kids' dad. If you don't, just skip it.
If you're a Christian zionist like me i try to celebrate passover as Yeshua Jesus is seen as the ultimate passover sacrifice
 
Hate 99% of children as they are so badly behaved and selfish
so holidays are something to dread
only time i like them (what i legally have to call children )are not loose but imprisoned in their houses
people are so litigious now

Personally, the only children I do not relate much to are the bullies, and the very self-centered ones, though for even those ones I look deeper and see genetics or poor environment could be the cause. This does not mean I accept it, but just can many times understand it. Luckily, our children have a very good loveable side, and are doing their best.
 
My least favorite holidays are my birthday and Mother's Day. Mother's Day is freaking everyday in this world, good or bad, up/down or indifferent. So why should there be one day where we are supposed to drop everything and focus on the notion of Mom, which is all anyone ever does.

And my birthday just seems like a day where anyone who otherwise wouldn't have considered me feels obligated to be personally victimized by my existence. With crappy cake and presents!

Thanksgiving. A big feast with people's favorite dishes sounds so nice. I wish it went more that way. But I also don't think families are able to be real with one another, let alone cook loving food.

Government holidays like Labor Day or Memorial Day. Totally not related to their initial conception. Why do douche bags load up in their Suburbans and all go on a three day trip to the lake? Maybe if they actually could enjoy their time off, it would be more tolerable.

Easter. How did Jesus' resurrection become an extended Mother's Day?

Fourth of July used to be one of my favorites. Like a hobbit, I really like fireworks. But it seems like you have to brave crowds to see a good show. No thanks. And I like summer berries with yellow cake and cream!!!

Christmas. I was able to give my family one small nice one once. Can't afford to now. I want to do it up big just one year with cold weather, hot chocolate, tons of lights, tons of gifts, lots of sweets. Don't care much for ornaments, the music, or over animated people. I just want to get the chance one day to take all the things I think are good about Christmas and ignore the bad.

Halloween comes at a fun time of year in the US. there's got to be a way to make it cool.

Father's Day...wish we could make everyday it for a while to counteract the reverse, but you only celebrate under one condition: you gotta like and respect your dad and/or your kids' dad. If you don't, just skip it.

Very good reply, in terms of how you feel about all those holidays. I relate to several things you said. I mean it seems like advertisement and others who do not know anything about us are in ways trying to impose on us how we should feel about certain holidays, and what we should do on such days.

So, no matter what anyone says here, regarding holidays, I value your input regardless if similar or different. We all have different life experiences, genes, families, and unique personalities that would shape our views about celebrations and holidays.

Unfortunately, the media and government often wants to suggest, meddle or dictate in ways, as pertaining to holidays and when, how long, and how we should typically celebrate and feel during each of those occasions. That does not help the situation when persons who have their own views feel bad for thinking, feeling or doing things differently than the norm.
 
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Personally, the only children I do not relate much to are the bullies, and the very self-centered ones, though for even those ones I look deeper and see genetics or poor environment could be the cause. This does not mean I accept it, but just can many times understand it. Luckily, our children have a very good loveable side, and are doing their best.
DONT have the right to terrorise me and all nts are like that
these ones have a very good life but they are allowed to act the way they want lax attitude no boundaries from parents born in the 80s and 90s
i would have never tried that and everybodys parents were like that nothing unusual just selfish and self centred
so nobody is responsible and is absolved of responsibility dumped on me instead
 
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DONT have the right to terrorise me and all nts are like that
these ones have a very good life but they are allowed to act the way they want lax attitude no boundaries from parents born in the 80s and 90s
i would have never tried that and everybodys parents were like that nothing unusual just selfish and self centred
so nobody is responsible and is absolved of responsibility dumped on me instead

I have no doubt that the NT world treats you horribly. But in the end, aren't we all badly damaged by the world? And do not adult NTs and going out in it itself treat you worse than kids? The sh**y world needs a scapegoat, so doesn't it stand to reason it grooms young NT children to be that scapegoat through abuse?

It seems the only real fall from a grace a kid has is when he grows up and believes the acting out of that imperfection iS him and exists accordingly. Then, and only then, is he what you hate.

Otherwise supposedly spoiled, self centered kids are only feedback about their environment. An environment that I don't think should be praised.
 
You don't know them i do IVE seen their guardians they escape punishment as the brats no they personally cant be prosecuted despicable attitude
so you're letting be absolved of responsibility if it was an animals much more godly beingd they would be euthanized so self centred people can continue to destroy more purity
I have no doubt that the NT world treats you horribly. But in the end, aren't we all badly damaged by the world? And do not adult NTs and going out in it itself treat you worse than kids? The sh**y world needs a scapegoat, so doesn't it stand to reason it grooms young NT children to be that scapegoat through abuse?

It seems the only real fall from a grace a kid has is when he grows up and believes the acting out of that imperfection iS him and exists accordingly. Then, and only then, is he what you hate.

Otherwise supposedly spoiled, self centered kids are only feedback about their environment. An environment that I don't think should be praised.
 
You don't know them i do IVE seen their guardians they escape punishment as the brats no they personally cant be prosecuted despicable attitude
so you're letting be absolved of responsibility if it was an animals much more godly beingd they would be euthanized so self centred people can continue to destroy more purity

Today's generation of youngsters are spoiled rotten to the core. There an old saying "Spare the rod, Spoil the child." and although I've had my share of wrongful punishments for being an aspie and still deal with traumas from it. The times that it has been right has proven it's worth.
 
When I was a kid I really liked Christmas and Easter. It was one of the few times during the year where we got new toys or things. Our family never fully celebrated a lot of the other holidays to the fullest. Growing up on a farm, we had to work a portion of the day on all holidays.

Now as an adult, I do get depressed during some holidays as I do not have a significant other despite wanting one for at least 5 years now. It is depressing to see all your older siblings who are married and have started families, while I am alone. Their lives are far from perfect, and i do want them to be happy, but it hurts to see the things in life that I am missing out on. We get together as a family, but it isn't the same as sharing it with someone intimately.

As for the comments about spoiled children - Parents are mostly to blame. Kids learn most through their parents. In the end, the kids themselves are the ones who are hurt the most when they are unprepared for the world when they become adults. Many parents do a huge disservice to their children by not giving them what they need most - teaching them skills, responsibility, and spending quality time with them.
 
You don't know them i do
You don't know them i do IVE seen their guardians they escape punishment as the brats no they personally cant be prosecuted despicable attitude
so you're letting be absolved of responsibility if it was an animals much more godly beingd they would be euthanized so self centred people can continue to destroy more purity

Buzzerfly knows things quite well, as we know her through her personal story and struggles, an amazing book which is wonderful and inspiring by the way. And so she knows a lot, and has been through a lot, like us. She has lots of wisdom and knowledge from her many experiences, as do we all.

And I know you have been through a lot and know much, too, from reading all your messages. I value your opinions, and am not saying you have to like those who have treated you wrong. But, please try to consider the feelings of those children and caregivers who are great, good and are trying their best. There are many great children and adults too.

We all here were children once, and are not 100% pure, regardless of condition and/or bad environment. I see the good in anyone who tries to learn, be better, or accept others that are different. This is different than accepting those that commit severe wrong. Clearly, 99.9% of children are not bad. I do agree though that many children and adults can be less selfish and caring. I have seen that. I do not relate to that.

I feel any person that does severe wrong should be held accountable, regardless if child or adult. If mental illness is the cause, they often will be required to get help there. But, yes, lots of persons do bad things and get away with things, but then let's blame the educational, medical and legal system then there, too. They are not doing their jobs.

Thanks for venting though. It sometimes is good to do that.
 
When I was a kid I really liked Christmas and Easter. It was one of the few times during the year where we got new toys or things. Our family never fully celebrated a lot of the other holidays to the fullest. Growing up on a farm, we had to work a portion of the day on all holidays.

Now as an adult, I do get depressed during some holidays as I do not have a significant other despite wanting one for at least 5 years now. It is depressing to see all your older siblings who are married and have started families, while I am alone. Their lives are far from perfect, and i do want them to be happy, but it hurts to see the things in life that I am missing out on. We get together as a family, but it isn't the same as sharing it with someone intimately.

As for the comments about spoiled children - Parents are mostly to blame. Kids learn most through their parents. In the end, the kids themselves are the ones who are hurt the most when they are unprepared for the world when they become adults. Many parents do a huge disservice to their children by not giving them what they need most - teaching them skills, responsibility, and spending quality time with them.

Thanks for posting about your holiday experiences. I relate a lot to your depression about holidays, as there was a period from my late teens to late thirties where I celebrated holidays alone and was a bit depressed.

I was living on my own and would often take walks at nights and look at all the homes with lights on and think how unfair it was that a good person was alone for so long and not celebrating holidays and family life, when there could be much less deserving persons inside feeling warmth and joy of those holiday gatherings, and as a family.

I did not give up though, so I tried to talk more to others through computer emails and live messaging chat with those I related to, or could relate to on important level. I found a few friends, and one ending up in a now over ten-year marriage. And with two great and spectacular kids, who create us happy times and fulfilling experiences.
 

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