I am deciding to move out of New Zealand and to Japan in the near future

[Mr_Alex]

I have decided to leave New Zealand in the near future as I have found the place is not very good for a asthmatic,currently I am travelling in Japan and I have found it as a nice place and would not mind moving there,also most of the women I met in Japan are not minded about money or qualifications or status so more good news,now the only thing left is getting a job in Japan and the immigration nightmare

 

[King_Oni]

Good luck with the move there

I have no clue whatsoever if Japan is difficult through immigration to live there. But if it's anything like "most" countries I guess having a plan for employment, and thus not having to rely on their social security often helps. And clearly, speaking the language does...

both things, which make it nigh impossible to move abroad if I look at my own situation.

I'm interested to hear how a move like that goes along.

 

[Ereth]

Best of luck with your plans to move. It's my understanding that it can be expensive to live in Japan, however, so I wouldn't recommend a city (like Tokyo) unless you can afford it.

 

[Mr_Alex]

I need to get a job and somehow maybe a Degree in IT might help but to my understanding I am not sure if Japanese companies would take on someone from Hong Kong,over in Tsuen Wan where my uncle lives,lots of Japanese firms have shifted into Nina Tower

 

[Geordie]

most of the women I met in Japan are not minded about money or qualifications or status so more good news,now the only thing left is getting a job in Japan and the immigration nightmare

On the other hand, I wanted to move to NZ badly because of its large open spaces. Didn't know NZ really values qualifications that much. The only thing holding me back is that I love the Wallabies.

Other than that, good luck with your move - for Japan is known for erecting really high entry barriers for non-Japanese. Unless you throw baseball better than Japanese or have a certain level of Japanese proficiency, recognized by the government - it's possible, but hard. So all the best!

 

[Mr_Alex]

On the other hand, I wanted to move to NZ badly because of its large open spaces. Didn't know NZ really values qualifications that much. The only thing holding me back is that I love the Wallabies.

Other than that, good luck with your move - for Japan is known for erecting really high entry barriers for non-Japanese. Unless you throw baseball better than Japanese or have a certain level of Japanese proficiency, recognized by the government - it's possible, but hard. So all the best!

Geordie,I would ask that this is not the best time to move to New Zealand,its going through massive unemployment and also lots of people who have degrees and bachelor are also claiming unemployment aka social security,I have decided that when I go back to New Zealand,I will be studying IT during the day and at night study Japanese

 

[Geordie]

Geordie,I would ask that this is not the best time to move to New Zealand,its going through massive unemployment and also lots of people who have degrees and bachelor are also claiming unemployment aka social security,I have decided that when I go back to New Zealand,I will be studying IT during the day and at night study Japanese

If I knew the degree is useless, the permanent residency is useless, the world is really chaotic with no jobs and upheaval in the next 20 years-

Thanks, Mr. Alex, for showing me the way. I should have listened to the 16 year-old me.

The degree doesn't matter. The qualification doesn't matter - though needed for certain jobs, which can be negotiable.

Just pursue the truth.

Since almost everyone I knew back then got an MBA/LLB/MSc or even PhDs -

Just be yourself, you don't need X to get Y

Go on and pursue your dreams.

Meanwhile, I will consider moving to Luxembourg - the only country that matters in wealth - instead of, say, some non-US Anglophone country

 

[Mr_Alex]

If I knew the degree is useless, the permanent residency is useless, the world is really chaotic with no jobs and upheaval in the next 20 years-

Thanks, Mr. Alex, for showing me the way. I should have listened to the 16 year-old me.

The degree doesn't matter. The qualification doesn't matter - though needed for certain jobs, which can be negotiable.

Just pursue the truth.

Since almost everyone I knew back then got an MBA/LLB/MSc or even PhDs -

Just be yourself, you don't need X to get Y

Go on and pursue your dreams.

Meanwhile, I will consider moving to Luxembourg - the only country that matters in wealth - instead of, say, some non-US Anglophone country

Geordie,here is the thing on New Zealand I should tell you,many of the Hong Kong people who moved to New Zealand in the early 90s have since moved to Hong Kong or Japan and when you compare with Japan and New Zealand both of which has GST,Japan is at 8% and New Zealand 15% and also phone and electricity and water bills in NZ can be phenomenal ,it was not a light decision to make that I want to move to Japan,serious factors for me to move to Japan included air quality,pricing of food,transport costs and etc and thats why I spent a month travelling around Japan to see what it was like and I liked it and also Japan's entertainment scene offered more than New Zealand and that was something major that contributed to my decision,in NZ on a weekend during the night,the only option is to get drunk

 

[Geordie]

many of the Hong Kong people who moved to New Zealand in the early 90s have since moved to Hong Kong

This surprises me a bit - or maybe not. Hong Kong is the epitome of dystopia to me - too crowded, too packed and lights that are too bright. But well, perhaps Japan has a good balance of entertainment and peace/quiet. New Zealand is the complete opposite of Hong Kong, especially outside Auckland.

Hope you enjoyed your trip to Japan and eventually permanently settle there. Live in a country where you fit better It's a permanent decision so glad you'd considered. I didn't - I was probably in my ADHD mode (I have ADHD too and I am quite impulsive.)

 

[Mr_Alex]

If I knew the degree is useless, the permanent residency is useless, the world is really chaotic with no jobs and upheaval in the next 20 years-

Thanks, Mr. Alex, for showing me the way. I should have listened to the 16 year-old me.

The degree doesn't matter. The qualification doesn't matter - though needed for certain jobs, which can be negotiable.

Just pursue the truth.

Since almost everyone I knew back then got an MBA/LLB/MSc or even PhDs -

Just be yourself, you don't need X to get Y

Go on and pursue your dreams.

Meanwhile, I will consider moving to Luxembourg - the only country that matters in wealth - instead of, say, some non-US Anglophone country

Another thing I forgot to mention,once you live in New Zealand on a Visa like work or tourist but nor sure about permanent resident,you cannot get Social Security or known in New Zealand as the dole which includes Jobseeker support which pays out peanuts per week and Supported living which people with aspergers syndrome or autism are eligible for it but you must be a citizen and when you apply it for the first time,the DHB (District Health Board) must diagnose it and then afterwards if they say its permanent you get the Supported payment for 1-5 years without problems and you get treated better but still you get slightly better payments than jobseeker support but you must be a New Zealand Citizen to be eligible and the best bit the government will cover some of the courses you wish to learn for example the course I want to do in IT

Living in New Zealand is a different story,houses are expensive,you could be paying $300,000-$400,000 for a single home and then you have to think about the Council rates too which is paid four times a year and then you have electricity,water,gas and telephone bills

Food a horrid story if you ask me,lets say you want to buy a pork chop and make Hong Kong style roast pork,$22-$27 or even $30 and even sometimes a simple meal at McD's could even cost you $11-$13

Doctor's Fees,I shiver to think about it $40 a visit and that does not include the medicine and if you pay for the medicine,the total fee could surpass $80 and bear in mind some medicine are not subsidized by the New Zealand Government

Dentist if you ask me very expensive

If you compare Japan and New Zealand both of which has GST,Japan-8% and New Zealand 15% of course Japan would be more desirable to live than New Zealand

 

[Mr_Alex]

Also Geordie,for youths in New Zealand like myself,we are mostly unemployed,I suggest you check this article out:

Launch targets Waikato youth unemployment | Stuff.co.nz

and then this- More Kiwi's feel insecure about work:

More Kiwis feel insecure about work -study - National - NZ Herald News

 

[Geordie]

Also Geordie,for youths in New Zealand like myself,we are mostly unemployed...

and then this- More Kiwi's feel insecure about work

You got to tell this to fellow Asians (especially Aspies) who want to move to New Zealand. Especially for people from larger cities, we feel left out by our societies.

What more we can do in the oppression against ordinary people (let alone us)? We don't even have dole money. We just have to 'beg' and perhaps wait for the day we are even accepted as citizens of our land. Meanwhile, what we can do, even with the degree we tried our best to earn despite those enrollment limits AND our unemployment, is either doing something a high school graduate can do (Oh, this sort of job is relatively easy to find for now, but we'll never know) or... we remain unemployed, we try harder for those 'skilled jobs', and we engage in our interests - writing, drawing etc

Not everything in Asia is rosy as you think, just as not everything in New Zealand is great. We both learnt something - it is the same no matter where we go or live, we are out of place everywhere around the world because of our autism/conditions. We live with our autism.

 

[Mr_Alex]

You got to tell this to fellow Asians (especially Aspies) who want to move to New Zealand. Especially for people from larger cities, we feel left out by our societies.

What more we can do in the oppression against ordinary people (let alone us)? We don't even have dole money. We just have to 'beg' and perhaps wait for the day we are even accepted as citizens of our land. Meanwhile, what we can do, even with the degree we tried our best to earn despite those enrollment limits AND our unemployment, is either doing something a high school graduate can do (Oh, this sort of job is relatively easy to find for now, but we'll never know) or... we remain unemployed, we try harder for those 'skilled jobs', and we engage in our interests - writing, drawing etc

Not everything in Asia is rosy as you think, just as not everything in New Zealand is great. We both learnt something - it is the same no matter where we go or live, we are out of place everywhere around the world because of our autism/conditions. We live with our autism.

You should check this one out:

Migrant Tales – Goodbye New Zealand | E2NZ.org

 

[Geordie]

Then where can we live, a place where we are more accepted and treated less like perpetual tourists?

Surely it's not Hong Kong. It should be some place where we feel energetic all the time without feeling stressed

 

[Mr_Alex]

Then where can we live, a place where we are more accepted and treated less like perpetual tourists?

Surely it's not Hong Kong. It should be some place where we feel energetic all the time without feeling stressed

Geordie,a major reason why I cannot live in Hong Kong anymore is air quality and Japan has better air quality than Hong Kong,I found that out while I was travelling in Japan and also I have relatives in Hong Kong too,for example if I lived in New Zealand,it would be impossible to visit my relatives in Hong Kong yearly and if I lived in Japan that would be possible and then check this article out,my mum works in a NZ Hardware store,she has faced severe discrimination and when she joined a union in NZ,when it came to wages,it was a joke thats why I am deciding to leave NZ for good but it could be 5 years,it could be 10 years

Why Can’t Asians Find Work In NZ? | E2NZ.org

 

[Geordie]

So other than Japan, you can't find a better place to live?

Good luck to you, I'm still finding that perfect place.