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[Xinyta]

'There was a boy who had no friends. Felt isolated. He was writing letters to himself as part a exercise his psychologist recommended to him. He had one of those letter with him at school one day and a bully, who has no friends either, decided to pick on him and stole his letter from him. This bully a later on took his own life. The grieving parents of the bullying child found the boy's letter on the Billy's person. And assumed this boy was the only friend the bully had. The parent talking to the boy told him what happened and that they found the letter on him. The boy lies and says that it's true that the bully is his friend. For a time, it felt good for him to be seen. To be known. A sense if happiness in having others. Though, in the end. The boy later on realized he eventually will have to come clean to the Billy's parents. But he was afraid to. He didn't want to show who he is. Who he is, according to him, was a friendless, miserable, broken person. Full of broken parts. How would the parents respond to the truth? How would they feel about seeing the true him?'

We all suffer. We all have pains we want to hide. But because we are seeing these negative things. We are obscuring our secret identity. Who we all really are. Our true identities are the same as God's. Love. For we are made in his image. And are made to become like him.

Now why am I saying all this?

The reason is simple, but, for me especially, complicated. I fear showing love out of the expectation of being hurt and left behind.

I wanted to love my grandparents that took care of me, while my Dad got his life together. But I was scared I would thrown away again. A belief and a delusion I kept with with me. Knowing I am without a mother hurt me a lot deeper than I knew.

It became worse when I started living with my Stepmother and Dad. I not only did I fear to try loving her. I feared her wrath. Her unbridled anger. My Dad never being present for very long made it feel like he didn't care about me. It fed this belief that those that I want to love will always leave me. This became twisted as time went on and evolved onto getting attention. 'Attention means they love me'. But it also affected how I looked other people in life. That I cannot be open about anything. For fear that my parents would disown me and I would be judged by everyone else. Another layer was added with my silbing's birth. Jealousy of all the attention they got. Despising them for existing because my parents put more into them, than me. At least my Stepmother did.

All this built up into a tormenting bubble, cage, cell... whatever you'd like to call it. Perpetual self-blame for failing to be what others wanted. Yet blaming everyone for being horrible to me. Not realizing that it was no one else's doing but my own for my mentality. My faulty beliefs. Even now I find myself at odds with the enemy. My own mentality. The kid. My Psychosis. A state of many names. But one mission.

There is one word to describe how I feel right now: Free. Like I just dropped the biggest boulder off my back. Dropping the weight tied around my neck. Breaking the chains that bound.

All I feel now is calm. I can do this.

 

[tree]

I remember the story about the boy and the bully.

What I don't remember is where it's from/who wrote it.

 

[velociraptor]

Our true identities are the same as God's. Love. For we are made in his image. And are made to become like him.

Maybe you are. I'm not. I reject fairy tales. Sorry. Otherwise, I'm glad you're feeling some relief.

 

[Aspychata]

We are truly our own worst enemies. To turn off the negative reel of false narratives, will give you freedom you have never known. Everyone fails at something or other, once you realize that, that you become more accepting of those around you and less concerned about yourself.

 

[Boogs]

Maybe you are. I'm not. I reject fairy tales. Sorry. Otherwise, I'm glad you're feeling some relief.

To be fair though, we all live on our own selected fairy tales. I can cry out that logic and evidence point one particular way for me, to imagine I have to be completely right, and no other p.o.v. could be relevant would be to close my mind to something new that doesn't fit in my current thoughts on a matter? Right and wrong are relative really (and I'm atheist if it makes any difference as to where I'm coming from).

 

[AprilR]

I think our childhood and parental figures shape the way we show love and interact with other people. My counselor told me, that even when we are looking for a partner, we tend to look for characteristics our parents had.

It took a lot of therapy and also faith (for me also) to accept myself and the faults of both myself and my parents for me. To see my parents as faulty human beings, not some omnipotent being. And it was very freeing.

I am glad that you are becoming self aware and feeling freer also. I even think you are a tad harsh on yourself, regardless of how you behaved and your coping mechanisms it is clear that you had a hard childhood also.

 

[Xinyta]

I remember the story about the boy and the bully.

What I don't remember is where it's from/who wrote it.

I heard it from one of Father Mike's audio homily sermons through the Hallow app. Granted the story is a bit altered. As both the characters in the story have names. I don't remember them. Plus I am telling it as I remember it. So it may very well be not verbatim.

Maybe you are. I'm not. I reject fairy tales. Sorry. Otherwise, I'm glad you're feeling some relief.

Sheath your sword, for I have not unsheathed mine. I speak out of my growing faith in demonstration, not in the expectation of reciprocation of faith from others.

To be fair though, we all live on our own selected fairy tales. I can cry out that logic and evidence point one particular way for me, to imagine I have to be completely right, and no other p.o.v. could be relevant would be to close my mind to something new that doesn't fit in my current thoughts on a matter? Right and wrong are relative really (and I'm atheist if it makes any difference as to where I'm coming from).

I agree. We all do have our own ideas, interpretations, and beliefs. None align in the same exact ways. Most do not align at all. Some align in ways that help both us as individuals, as well as others. Whether any of us believe in a God or not. There is fundamental functions of how we interact with each other. How we see the world. What we believe. How we determine morality in ourselves. How we see other people around us. It all colors the individual worlds we all live.

While many things are constructs of our own minds. There are somethings that are merely in our nature, no matter how we justify it.

 

[velociraptor]

Sheath your sword, for I have not unsheathed mine. I speak out of my growing faith in demonstration, not in the expectation of reciprocation of faith from others.

Glad you're used to disappointment.

 

[lunarious]

Our true identities are the same as God's. Love. For we are made in his image. And are made to become like him.

I don't know how God looks like.

There are people we think God is a Humanoid and alien maybe. But Muslims and modern Christians disagree about if God "looks" like.

PS: I may read everything you said later

 

[Boogs]

Glad you're used to disappointment.

Is it religion in general that you're attacking (or seem to be), or is there some subtext I'm missing?
I used to find religious beliefs difficult to acknowledge and much harder to join in a conversation involving some element of them because I'd end up attacking others inadvertently.
The funny thing was that my very late self-diagnosis helped to open my eye's to how even in my supposed world of logic and evidence, my views were in the end little less subjective than anyone else's and only reflect a part of reality.

I still can't understand them, but I can appreciate my own views are so limited too, to close myself to other views because I don't like them and can't fit them into my woeful little world is discarding information and knowledge, and while it's relevance may not be straightforward, or direct or obvious, it may not match what other opinions people may have, but to strike it out as 100% irrelevant is to lose even more data. Without all the data it's impossible to come to a full understanding of something.

Whether any of us believe in a God or not. There is fundamental functions of how we interact with each other. How we see the world. What we believe. How we determine morality in ourselves. How we see other people around us. It all colors the individual worlds we all live.

To my mind morality that's come from one's religion is a poor morality because it's someone else's morality adopted by others because it's there and they are told what is right or wrong without discussion, if they've not worked out for themselves why it's moral, and why they should follow it.

A genuine morality needs to have been thought through from a subjective point of view, to say it's moral because someone wrote down somewhere that it's moral, is actually immoral (imho)! As far as I'm concerned true morality comes from understanding why something is moral or not, it's not being told what to think by someone else.
That approach is more important than the morals themselves.

 

[velociraptor]

Is it religion in general that you're attacking (or seem to be), or is there some subtext I'm missing?

I object to others speaking on behalf of me for their religion. If you want to say that YOU are made in the image of YOUR creator, have at it. If you want to say that I am also made in the image of YOUR creator, no thanks. Leave me out of your delusions.

 

[Xinyta]

To my mind morality that's come from one's religion is a poor morality because it's someone else's morality adopted by others because it's there and they are told what is right or wrong without discussion, if they've not worked out for themselves why it's moral, and why they should follow it.

A genuine morality needs to have been thought through from a subjective point of view, to say it's moral because someone wrote down somewhere that it's moral, is actually immoral (imho)! As far as I'm concerned true morality comes from understanding why something is moral or not, it's not being told what to think by someone else.
That approach is more important than the morals themselves.

To a degree, I am willing to agree with you. Using religion as a tool to your own self-percived moral standing, to prove you are moral. That is no way to be. And I will not pretend that the Holy Bible hasn't been tampered with in some way. Man can and will manipulate anything to thier own veiws. You are right about that.

But the core values of believing and having faith, can be only seen by knowing God.

But I understand that not everyone is going to be willing to see, let alone belive. That is everyone's personal choice and views. I will not disparage that. We all have free will, or at least a choice.

In anycase. I do agree that it does take alot of personal experience and reflection on what you see perspectively, to determine what is moral or not. No one will see it the same way, as another person may end up seeing it.

It's actually because perspectives can be so diverging, is why religion has so many sub sects. At least as far as the Christian/Catholic faith. The options do provide for different levels of faith. But in that divergence, it does seem like things become lost in translation. Values being redefined or diminished.

I am still learning though...

 

[Xinyta]

I don't know how God looks like.

There are people we think God is a Humanoid and alien maybe. But Muslims and modern Christians disagree about if God "looks" like.

PS: I may read everything you said later

I personally think that when it's said we are created in his image, it's not litteral. But more in the terms of spiritual. When one embraces the light of the holy spirit. It is reflected in thier look, thier facial expressions, their body language, thier actions. Being godly in manner and behavior, but not God. However. He is present through you.

Those that focus on the form, or 'look', of God, are missing the point. "I Am, Who I Am".

 

[Boogs]

I object to others speaking on behalf of me for their religion. If you want to say that YOU are made in the image of YOUR creator, have at it. If you want to say that I am also made in the image of YOUR creator, no thanks. Leave me out of your delusions.

I'm sorry to say, you're looking at an uphill battle then! But is it them thinking it, or them saying it here? And if the former, that's somewhat authoritarian leaning(?), and if the latter, then what do think it is that upsets you specifically when you see someone else's opinion given?
I'm curious, not criticising.

But the core values of believing and having faith, can be only seen by knowing God.

Personally, I'd rephrase that as "... by my knowing God", as I presume that comes from yourself, and hence reflects your perceptions, and the beliefs built on them, but surely it can't reflect everyone's God?

 

[velociraptor]

what do think it is that upsets you specifically

I have been preyed on by organized religion back when I was vulnerable and now I make a point of pushing back. If you want it in your life, fair play. Keep it out of mine.

 

[Boogs]

I have been preyed on by organized religion back when I was vulnerable and now I make a point of pushing back. If you want it in your life, fair play. Keep it out of mine.

Ok, it's pretty personal, fair enough, just wondered. Though bear in mind, not everyone in a group is a user, it can sometimes be easy to brand others through the taint of another, when it was the person, not the message that was the truly bad thing (i.e. the message can be innocuous, or toxic, it's the person carrying it that makes the difference).

 

[Rachie]

This type of post the introduction is what many autistics are known to struggle with. It has been said by others like with parables many autistics find them difficult. Perhaps it is need the good grasp on imagination and abstract thinking but myself I couldn't work it out at the moment.

Also, it can be nice for the reader to know what faith you are before they decide to read your post and in some cases may copy it to their a Word document. This is allowing some boundary here so it can be nice to know for the reader who would find this helpful.

 

[lunarious]

I personally think that when it's said we are created in his image, it's not litteral. But more in the terms of spiritual. When one embraces the light of the holy spirit. It is reflected in thier look, thier facial expressions, their body language, thier actions. Being godly in manner and behavior, but not God. However. He is present through you.

Those that focus on the form, or 'look', of God, are missing the point. "I Am, Who I Am".

.., We all suffer. We all have pains we want to hide. But because we are seeing these negative things. We are obscuring our secret identity. Who we all really are. Our true identities are the same as God's. Love. For we are made in his image. And are made to become like him.

Thread 'ID - Identity - Who are you?'

Dec 26, 2024

49:13 The Chambers: O mankind! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you nations and tribes that you may identify yourselves with one another. Indeed the noblest of you in the sight of Allah is the most Godwary among you. Indeed Allah is all-knowing, all-aware.

Chapter 49 in Qur'an is called The Chambers. That is likely related to self-control and control (edit: Defensively), where you abide by borders as Royalty does, the borders of your chamber. With respect to hirearchy, in Karate and TKD also, all martial arts; to chamber is to load...

• lunarious
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• Forum: Religion

God's Love is what you may call: Strong Love. Tough Love, but it doesn't have to be cruel.

What is called Extroverts are running our world, Introverts with "secret identity" need to lean on God and summon God instead of summoning the Bully in the story. Instead they bully. Summoning God is introverts Job, called supplication, called Introspection.

We need balance. I remember Dalai Lama said Wisely: A Bird needs two wings to fly, that is Wisdom and Compassion. It can't fly with one Wing.

Allah may certainly be The God, and Prophets are people whom strech themselves to be Balanced people. Balanced people are they whom has both Wings as Dalai Lama said.

I wanted to love my grandparents that took care of me, while my Dad got his life together. But I was scared I would thrown away again. A belief and a delusion I kept with with me. Knowing I am without a mother hurt me a lot deeper than I knew.

Allah is Above mother and Father, and Grandfather. My mother guided me with some words: The best thing you can find after finding God, is a good friend.

 

[Xinyta]

Also, it can be nice for the reader to know what faith you are before they decide to read your post and in some cases may copy it to their a Word document. This is allowing some boundary here so it can be nice to know for the reader who would find this helpful.

My appologies for not making it clear. I currently do not affiliate myself with any sect. Not yet. I am just starting to find faith in God, at the moment.

But technically, I am Catholic. I was baptized as such.

I personally just haven't been too much in pursuit of faith for a long time. My upbringing made seeking it difficult, let alone difficult to even consider it as a thought.

 

[Rachie]

Lovely to read your response. I was baptised as a Catholic and attended Catholic schools to 19. and mass as well here and there. I don't disagree with anything. I am now non demontional and attend an Anglican church just a few minutes from me in my local area. I was baptised as a Catholic in a Catholic church by a simple service.

There are articles or what about parables and allergoical speaking and autism. People do it all the time and I don't understand it often. I must give the impression to them I understood or not lol. Do what you feel is right. I was just at my old primary Catholic church on Friday. I feel very safe there and have good memories when things were at pure time. I was a child of innocence of course.

I wish you well.