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I just had a theory about Extra Terrestrial encounters...

MildredHubble

MildredHubble

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So I'm struggling to sleep again and my head hurts and while trying to distract myself browsing through the forum on my phone, I caught a glimpse of one of the poles on our bedframe. It was slightly out of focus with a bit of reflected light behind it and suddenly it looked like something else...(cue X-Files music dooodooodooo do do do do...)

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I hope that comes across properly! Kinda looks like one of those "Gray Aliens" right?!

I wonder if all of those stories of nocturnal visits from aliens were just a half asleep/nightmare optical distortion of a person's bedframe?

Have I perhaps solved the mystery? 😸
 
MildredHubble said:
So I'm struggling to sleep again and my head hurts and while trying to distract myself browsing through the forum on my phone, I caught a glimpse of one of the poles on our bedframe. It was slightly out of focus with a bit of reflected light behind it and suddenly it looked like something else...(cue X-Files music dooodooodooo do do do do...)

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I hope that comes across properly! Kinda looks like one of those "Gray Aliens" right?!

I wonder if all of those stories of nocturnal visits from aliens were just a half asleep/nightmare optical distortion of a person's bedframe?

Have I perhaps solved the mystery? 😸
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Ask author Whitley Strieber. He has a lot to say on that subject.
 
MildredHubble said:
Ah, cool, so it's a case of this...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
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Not likely from his perspective...but it may be debatable under the circumstances he and others have dealt with.

Some other names....Travis Walton and Betty and Barney Hill. (Though the Hills are deceased.)

I've had multiple instances of hypnopompic hallucinations...frightening in real time, but always humorous to look back on after the fact. Where reality and fantasy meld together for a few moments as one slowly wakes up....sometimes accompanied with sleep paralysis. But in my case a far cry from anything remotely connected to alien abduction.
 
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I don't think I've had either hypnagogia or hypnopompic experiences.
Lucid or vivid dreams happen after being in full sleep.
And I don't have nightmares of monsters, demons or such like many do.
I think my worst nightmares have been dreams of spiders.

Sleep paralysis is supposed to be a type of protective mechanism to keep us from flaying around in our sleep.
I've never felt it when awake enough to be aware of it.

Funny. I saw an interview of Whitley Strieber this morning on tv. 🛸
@Judge : Yeah, what does block out part of a laser beam? ;);)
 
SusanLR said:
Sleep paralysis is supposed to be a type of protective mechanism to keep us from flaying around in our sleep.
I've never felt it when awake enough to be aware of it.
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LOL. Interesting, I haven't heard that before. For me it's usually momentarily terrifying. Caught between coming out of REM sleep and approaching consciousness. When I cannot move a muscle and I am quite aware of it, despite being caught between these two states.

Often compounded in the event one has a hypnopompic hallucination of some kind.

My last two significant events involved being chased by rabid dogs, and being confined in a place where everyone around me were smoking cigarettes.

When I woke up fully in the first scenario, my cousin's dogs were barking up a storm just playing outside my door. In the second scenario I awoke to discover my nasal passages were almost totally clogged...the result of a very bad- and lengthy allergy season.

So...the good news is that once I am awake, and provided I can fully recall such an incident, I personally enjoy a good laugh from it. The sort of thing that is easy to debunk, as opposed to more "exotic" experiences.
 
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Judge said:
LOL. Interesting, I haven't heard that before. For me it's usually momentarily terrifying. Caught between coming out of REM sleep and approaching consciousness. When I cannot move a muscle and I am quite aware of it, despite being caught between these two states.

Often compounded in the event one has a hypnopompic hallucination of some kind.

My last two significant events involved being chased by rabid dogs, and being confined in a place where everyone around me were smoking cigarettes.

When I woke up fully in the first scenario, my cousin's dogs were barking up a storm just playing outside my door. In the second scenario I awoke to discover my nasal passages were almost totally clogged...the result of a very bad- and lengthy allergy season.

So...the good news is that once I am awake, and provided I can fully recall such an incident, I personally enjoy a good laugh from it. The sort of thing that is easy to debunk, as opposed to more "exotic" experiences.
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I have phases over a few months of sleep paralysis. Typically lasting about 30 seconds as far as I can tell, and usually ending in a massive hypnic jerk. Not pleasant at all. Only movement I have tends to be trying to repeat a single word over and over, no idea why. These events can also wipe my memory temporarily. But not wipe as in "What's my name, who are you?" but complete loss of identity. Don't recognise my own body, have no idea if I'm human, or even what a human is. Hands and feet feel like they are on backwards, etc. Pretty unpleasant, but it's happened quite a lot of times and there does seem to be a feeling of "you know what's happening, don't worry" that is present more and more each time.
 
MNAus said:
I have phases over a few months of sleep paralysis. Typically lasting about 30 seconds as far as I can tell, and usually ending in a massive hypnic jerk. Not pleasant at all. Only movement I have tends to be trying to repeat a single word over and over, no idea why. These events can also wipe my memory temporarily. But not wipe as in "What's my name, who are you?" but complete loss of identity. Don't recognise my own body, have no idea if I'm human, or even what a human is. Hands and feet feel like they are on backwards, etc. Pretty unpleasant, but it's happened quite a lot of times and there does seem to be a feeling of "you know what's happening, don't worry" that is present more and more each time.
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I've had similar episodes too. All I know is at the time is that I want to move and I can't. It's pretty horrible. There's been times where there has been strong light shining in my eyes through my eyelids. I hate strong light.

My instinct is to try and rock myself back and forwards. Any small movement I can make, I make the most of it until I'm flailing around and I can move again. It can kinda freak people out.

When I had surgery about 10 years ago I warned the anaesthetist that I get this sleep paralysis thing and I was worried about being conscious during the operation but unable to alert them. She said that they have lots of ways to be able to detect that now and not to worry.

Apparently when I did come round I did flail about and one of the nurses said "Oh you were fighting us a bit when you first woke up" I was really worried that I could have hurt someone and she said "Sorry that was probably a bad choice of words, you were just flailing around as soon as you woke up. Don't worry you didn't hurt any one. It happens a lot."

I guess I must have been still so anaesthetised that I couldn't remember and had in deed had a sleep paralysis episode.
 
Anaesthesia is odd stuff. Obviously which chems used will make a big difference, but there's a great deal not known about how it works on the conscious mind. How it can turn us off like putting that PC into hibernation mode, and yet we still are there after being turned back on. And what happens during is not the same as sleep at all.

And while it doesn't shut down all regulatory activity in the brain, it does effect enough that the anaesthetist is there to keep you alive. Your brain on it's own will flounder (hence all the monitoring to adjust drug low and air flow etc).
Most odd to think of, I liken it to considering death, discontinuation, consider in an intellectual fashion at least.

The only major surgery I had, maybe 8 years back give or take, I recall suddenly 'waking' and in those few seconds, all was normal, everything chugging along inside the brain pan, then suddenly this incredible pain just turned on like someone hitting a switch and everything whiting out as the outside world receded from view. Most odd.
 
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I believe a lot of what people think are UFOs are really just military aircraft tests.

I grew up as a child in the high desert of Southern California. We were surrounded on all sides, on the other sides of the mountains, by military bases.

It was normal to see fighter jets training, a few times a week.

But in the mid 1980s, once or twice a week, in the early afternoon, there would be an explosive booming sound in the sky. Like a gunshot, but crackling like thunder.

All of a sudden the phone would ring, and everyone in our little valley would be calling each other to ask if they heard it or saw the jet.

We have seen several kinds of fighter jets and bombers, just spending time outside.
 
I remember watching RAF fighters (Harriers mostly I think, in those days) in the Lake District (Cumbria, UK, very mountainous (for England)) from up on the ridges and peaks, looking down on them into the cockpit from above as they shot through the valleys doing low level practice. Amazing stuff!

I suspect UFO sightings are a whole bunch of different things, from people simply mistaking human flying objects, to outright fraud to some having genuine hallucinations (and likely predisposed to believe them as alien encounters rather than question the ambiguities of the experience). I'm mean the real thing, not pseudo hallucinations such as drugs or fatigue can cause.
 
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