I may stop using escorts, etc...

[Lemon Zing]

I don't like their attitude. That's the main reason.

A lot of them have a rather egotistical personality. I always just end up deleting my profiles, just to start up the cycle again when I get urges. Browsing some profiles on some sites, it's almost like a game of, "Don't step on the cracks!"

These ones calling themselves goddesses, mistresses and so on, post some truly sadist stuff on their Twitter feed. I think there's something not right with them, for some reason. They give off vibes of not being very sane, capable of much social integration, or even being adapt at being polite towards the opposite sex. Me. Me. Me. That's all it is. Especially those into financial domination.

I think they're just after your money, couldn't care less about you, and then they extend their presence to YouTube gaming or something, just to use their looks to get guys simping for them on yet another platform. Sad men, with no talent or worth, line up. The fact that I got somebody threatening to sue me over a stupid, sarcastic joke recently is absolutely mind numbingly dumb.

Someone said to me that she had a torture room in her mansion, because she said we could make a horror movie. Of course, she was being sarcastic. I then said in response, "You probably made men and women disappear!" with a laughing emoji. Then she took that seriously, and got a solicitor to send me all manner of garbage, and copies of messages I sent to her.

But to be honest, I think my problem is that I don't have the confidence to get a proper partner. If I did, I wouldn't have to bother with this fake transaction. There's no point. They don't want to date you. In fact, outside of this business, they're probably not even interested in being your friend either. I do get that they want to be professional. But what's in it for you or me?

I always wonder why I am drawn to such users. Maybe I am just bottom of the barrel in general.

 

[Luca]

Someone said to me that she had a torture room in her mansion, because she said we could make a horror movie. Of course, she was being sarcastic. I then said in response, "You probably made men and women disappear!" with a laughing emoji. Then she took that seriously, and got a solicitor to send me all manner of garbage, and copies of messages I sent to her.

Wow, this is good timing with something else I just posted
Don't immediately dismiss a comment like that as a joke. I was literally tortured by multiple abusers and was unable to escape for YEARS. My abusers lied to everyone about how "happy" I was and made it look very convincing.

People don't talk about torture in the context of abuse very much but it is a very real danger to a lot of people, especially young people who are in vulnerable situations without parental figures (like foster care or residential treatment.)
People watch all these stupid "torture porn" movies and psychological thrillers and are like "Yeah, that doesn't really happen." But it does. People especially think it doesn't happen in America but it does.

If she was offended or got defensive about that comment I would personally be very suspicious and would probably notify someone. I will also note that my abusers were female and women can also be captors and abusers.

 

[Lemon Zing]

I got berated a year ago for telling somebody my fantasy. Yet they post the same things on their social media platforms. But no. Guys, please be quiet.

 

[Alaric593]

But to be honest, I think my problem is that I don't have the confidence to get a proper partner. If I did, I wouldn't have to bother with this fake transaction. There's no point. They don't want to date you. In fact, outside of this business, they're probably not even interested in being your friend either. I do get that they want to be professional. But what's in it for you or me?

I always wonder why I am drawn to such users. Maybe I am just bottom of the barrel in general.

This isn't meant as judgment as I've not used escorts before. You're correct, they have no interest. I've done pro-bono legal research for human trafficking task forces in my state and there's overlap with prostitutes.

Many are women who've been used and abused most of their lives and like with porn, which also is not always voluntary no matter what people want to tell themselves, are recreating their abuse but some flip it to put them in the "powerful" position over the men rather than what they lived through. I don't know the full psychology behind why just that it's the case.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

Maybe I'm just stupid when it comes to such things, but I think escorts just look upon men as wallets with testicles; no deeper connection there. What I want is an emotional connection with my partner. Were I alone again, I would rather spend that money on a nice date/outing with a woman regardless if it led to sex. A shared experience with mutual enjoyment and respect would be more satisfying for me. But as I said, maybe I'm just stupid.

 

[Magna]

Wow, this is good timing with something else I just posted
Don't immediately dismiss a comment like that as a joke. I was literally tortured by multiple abusers and was unable to escape for YEARS. My abusers lied to everyone about how "happy" I was and made it look very convincing.

People don't talk about torture in the context of abuse very much but it is a very real danger to a lot of people, especially young people who are in vulnerable situations without parental figures (like foster care or residential treatment.)
People watch all these stupid "torture porn" movies and psychological thrillers and are like "Yeah, that doesn't really happen." But it does. People especially think it doesn't happen in America but it does.

If she was offended or got defensive about that comment I would personally be very suspicious and would probably notify someone. I will also note that my abusers were female and women can also be captors and abusers.

I wish I could put ten "Friendly" heart emojis on your comment instead of only the one, Crew.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

Wow, this is good timing with something else I just posted
Don't immediately dismiss a comment like that as a joke. I was literally tortured by multiple abusers and was unable to escape for YEARS. My abusers lied to everyone about how "happy" I was and made it look very convincing.

People don't talk about torture in the context of abuse very much but it is a very real danger to a lot of people, especially young people who are in vulnerable situations without parental figures (like foster care or residential treatment.)
People watch all these stupid "torture porn" movies and psychological thrillers and are like "Yeah, that doesn't really happen." But it does. People especially think it doesn't happen in America but it does.

If she was offended or got defensive about that comment I would personally be very suspicious and would probably notify someone. I will also note that my abusers were female and women can also be captors and abusers.

Hearing that from you , who has so much verve, makes me immeasurably sad. I know that happens, yet to hear it from people who I enjoy communicating with here hits deeper than I thought and catches me off guard.

Hugs to you.

 

[Bolletje]

Especially those into financial domination.

I think they're just after your money

Well, yes, that’s the goal of financial domination.

 

[Lemon Zing]

They post receipts on Twitter of what they bought in Costa, or somewhere, and say, "You losers must reimburse me!"

OK. Sure. I like being spoken to like trash.

 

[Bolletje]

They post receipts on Twitter of what they bought in Costa, or somewhere, and say, "You losers must reimburse me!"

OK. Sure. I like being spoken to like trash.

That’s the entire point of financial domination though. There is usually an aspect of humiliation as part of the dom/sub relationship, which revolves around money in this case. If you’re not into that, I don’t see why you would be engaging with escorts catering to people that are into that. Which is just a mismatch.

Or put in simpler terms: you’re seemingly not interested in buying what they’re selling. Many escorts cater to a specific type of clientele. If you’re looking for a vanilla girlfriend experience, you’re generally not going to be finding what you’re looking for with an escort offering any type of domination.

I’m not saying you should keep seeing escorts. But I am saying it seems, to me, like a waste of energy to get upset about social media posts by escorts offering services you’re not interested in anyway.

 

[Lemon Zing]

So the wifey who got all sore over my messaging her, told me her address. So it's not doxing somebody if they tell you where they live, right?

She's a sub girl and partly a mistress herself, but I think she's mostly a sub girl. Over a year ago, I basically got cold feet and started... spouting about my woes, I guess you could say. I'm still incredibly hung up over those former support workers messing up my life. Screw them, by the way.

However, I wasn't happy over being blocked. So I was a bit obnoxious. Said she would pay for her sins. I guess I still stand by some of my feelings, since I just don't like women who prostitute themselves, advertise their bodies in a deceitful manner, and then try to do a dirty on you afterwards. A year ago, another girl attempted to have me charged with a section 52. That's inciting sex work, or something. But they're already a sex worker. Make any sense? Nope.

A typical trick by the police is to either interview you and say little, or break into your accommodation with a pretend warrant. They never charged me anyway. Although it's not really pretending. But it's still a ploy. Especially if a non harassment order has ended, so they make up something, in order to get you arrested again, under the pretense you made a threat in some hour long rant video, aimed at the support worker who betrayed your trust. Then what happens is, the court grants the "victim" (who you largely forgot about), a new damn order.

It's ridiculous...

But like I said, there's no point in getting attached to your favourite Twitch streamer, AKA being a lonely guy simping over a money grabbing bimbo on OnlyFans, or any of these similar sites they create profiles on. By now, there's quite a few imitations of OnlyFans. But it's the same thing, really. You tip them for their content, or watch them live streaming. They profit. You don't get the girl!

Ended up offering an apology of my own free will to that lady from Tayside, though. She didn't even really acknowledge me. Referred to me in an email as an incel. How nice.

The same email in which she told me the name of her fancy looking estate. Although I assumed it belonged to her mistress, from Glasgow. Didn't even know the title of it. In the paperwork I got, she left out the fact she registered on a mental health forum, calling me the 'C' word in a PM. At first, I didn't know it was her. But I think she got my personal information via that Australian radge pot Gimpy spamming my address elsewhere. Which he still does on a dead anxiety forum, in fact. Then he makes out the multiple accounts aren't his.

She probably looked up my regular pseudonym on Google. It's not Paul Lee, however. It is one with "Saunders" in it, that I use mostly on message boards for discussing video games. The Australian guy probably goes sending messages to people I mention, so he can be a total grass. The guy never takes a hint. He told a movie director years ago that I put his film on Internet Archive. Whenever I sign up another account on YouTube, he comes right back, being a moron. Subscribes to me and saves my videos. Why, I don't fully know. He's rather creepy, however. Puts up videos of himself stamping on a Pepsi can, crunching an apple, or putting cashews in a silver bowl. Again... why?

But seriously. My mother said they're "hard nuts" and absolutely best avoided. Then how do you get your fix? Have a wee play with yourself? Less hassle, I suppose.

Hooray for mum's amazing advice.

 

[tree]

What do you hope to accomplish by mentioning
people you say are trolling you?

It seems like if you'd stop talking about them, they'd
get frustrated with your lack of reaction, and go find
somebody else to mess with.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

But seriously. My mother said they're "hard nuts" and absolutely best avoided. Then how do you get your fix? Have a wee play with yourself? Less hassle, I suppose.

Well, I don't know your age so don't know what to say. Socially and sexually isolated, by 25 I was tired of choking the chicken spending my Friday nights watching the Muppet Show, and on weekends pursuing my interests and enjoying frequent trips to Toronto. I was lonely. So I started acting like the interesting guy I knew I was, started learning the social, and luckily ran into my spouse. Still, that took 3 years of hard work. That's how I eventually got my fix

 

[Lemon Zing]

What's my age? I am 36. I wish I was 17 again, so I could live my life properly, better, or whatever.

Since I left high school back in 2002, my life has sucked. It has sucked for the rest of my family as well. Nothing really went right for any of us for years. It got worse after what I went through with Autism Initiatives, and my sister was caught up in a custody war with not one, but two kids, which she never won.

As for escorts...

Yeah. It's such a hassle even booking a woman that you just cannot be bothered. There's many roadblocks.

They don't reply to emails.
They don't answer their phone.
Somebody set up a fake profile.
They have a lousy attitude.
Today, they're unavailable.
You go to find them, and they switched location.

The list could go on and on. It's honestly a chore even trying to establish any meet. And like I said, even if you do, what are the odds she's gonna be nice anyway? Most of them go through the motions, and don't even fake being nice.

They're also rather expensive. It's cheaper just going to a sauna, for a so-called massage. But even on these review forums, you hear both good and bad things about them. So I would be careful if you consider taking this up. It can be a nightmare.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

What's my age? I am 36. I wish I was 17 again, so I could live my life properly, better, or whatever.

Since I left high school back in 2002, my life has sucked. It has sucked for the rest of my family as well. Nothing really went right for any of us for years. It got worse after what I went through with Autism Initiatives, and my sister was caught up in a custody war with not one, but two kids, which she never won.

As for escorts...

Yeah. AW looks nice, with the purple layout. But it's such a hassle even booking a woman that you just cannot be bothered. There's many roadblocks.

They don't reply to emails.
They don't answer their phone.
Somebody set up a fake profile.
They have a lousy attitude.
Today, they're unavailable.
You go to find them, and they switched location.

The list could go on and on. It's honestly a chore even trying to establish any meet. And like I said, even if you do, what are the odds she's gonna be nice anyway? Most of them go through the motions, and don't even fake being nice.

They're also rather expensive. It's cheaper just going to a sauna, for a so-called massage. But even on these review forums, you hear both good and bad things about them. So I would be careful if you consider taking this up. It can be a nightmare.

Have you actually, like, gotten out to connect with a normal woman? Sorta the thing that people do to find companionship?

 

[Judge]

As for escorts...

Yeah. It's such a hassle even booking a woman that you just cannot be bothered. There's many roadblocks.

They don't reply to emails.
They don't answer their phone.
Somebody set up a fake profile.
They have a lousy attitude.
Today, they're unavailable.
You go to find them, and they switched location.

Of course. If you're looking for love and affection, you won't find them there. Their services merely reflect a business arrangement. Everything about them in terms of how they appear to relate to you personally will be inherently fake.

Try befriending someone...and settle for being friends. It may someday lead to something more. You never know unless you try. But focus only on friendship in real-time. When in time if you gain someone's real trust and affection, it won't be something tran$actional, but quite genuine. From their heart- not their pocketbook.

 

[Mary Terry]

@Paul Lee - I suggest you associate with a higher class of people than the trash on "escort services" websites. I think you'd ultimately be much happier.

 

[Lemon Zing]

The Australian knob I told you about, is quoting my posts on another forum. I told you he does that. How about getting a life and not like, spying on my posts 24/7, mate?

Fortunately, I will getting in touch with an Australian legal firm soon, to get a restraining order. So he can spam away all he wants on that other site, and slag off my accent.

As for why I don't have a girlfriend; I don't socialize at all. My anxiety has been so severe that I don't openly interact with anybody, anywhere. In fact, I don't even like having my shopping delivered. That's how bad I am with others now. Had this persistent agoraphobia and to be honest, I don't even know what to do with my time from day to day. My mother, however, recommended staying off forums, after I told her how dead they've ended up. She said that it's like I'm talking to myself. She said long ago, that they've ran their course.

I did have a girlfriend years ago. A decade ago, actually. But she wasn't really anybody you could label as a girlfriend. She used me to get her things, like an iPod. She then mucked it up while I was paying it up on credit, in Argos.

Back then, she was an idiot. She didn't even know how to even insert a charger cable properly, so the dock was completely destroyed. Well, she did so many other things too. Hardly worth going into the ins and outs of it all, since I haven't seen her for long enough now. The bottom line is, she was a gold digging piece of garbage.

 

[tree]

Yes, it does seem like you're talking to yourself.
Repeating the same stories over and over.

Sometimes you come to and decide that reciting
past history isn't doing you any good.

But that doesn't last, and you make new posts of the
old stories about the actress, the support workers,
the lawyers, the movie you were almost in, the girl
friend, and the ever present trolls.

There's some satisfaction to it, it seems.

The trolls acknowledge you exist and give you a
cause to rail against. That must be a sort of
comfort because it shows that even if you have
no social life, you're not forgotten.

 

[Lemon Zing]

When she said I was talking to myself, she didn't necessarily mean the topics you pointed out. I meant on video gaming forums, and the like.

There is hardly any members posting on them. Unlike say, 15 years ago. It's probably because of Facebook, and Twitter. I don't know. But she's right. They've become a waste of time. If nobody responds, or the forum has died, then it's going to remain that way.