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I really didn't mean to overshare or make this so long. But hi, I'm new here.

ChrisCRISPR

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In a pretty sad, lonely headspace right now I totally didn't mean to unload so much on the vent here. Consider this a trigger warning as well; I mention some rough upbringing in childhood and past history of substance abuse.

Hello everyone my name is Chris and I'm a 35 year old male here at the very beginning stages of my journey towards (possibly?) receiving a diagnosis. I'm at a place right now in my life where I am really struggling with existing. I am in a stuck, perpetually frozen sort of state where I feel so consumed and overwhelmed by how much of my life I have wasted with so little no show for it. I had no stability growing up, not only did we end up moving just about every year or so, but my parents fought all the time (before they divorced) and my mom struggled a lot with her own mental health and at times it was hard because she was not nice to me. I dont want to make her sound like a bad mom either because she already beats herself up so much about that as it is, I know she was really suffering with a lot and I didnt understand it at the time. There were a lot of really sad and scary times though. I never had a relationship with my dad much at all either and he ran off and got remarried and his new wife wouldn't let him have anything to do with me and he went along with it. Because of moms mental health I ended up getting shipped off to various relatives, aunts and uncles, grandparents when they were still alive, it seemed like my folks were just desperate to find someone else to take me off their hands. All in all it was a very confusing, lonely and isolating childhood and it left me with this feeling where no matter where I am at or who I am with I always feel unwanted, I always feel like the other shoe is about to drop and the rug is going to get pulled out from under my feet.

I didn't make any friends at all until I had already dropped out of school and the first friend I ever had was 19 when I was 12 and he introduced me to crack cocaine and methamphetamines. I don't mean to make him sound like a bad person either I mean no one put a gun to my head and told me to do drugs, I knew what they were and I knew the repercussions. I just didnt want to lose my only friend, the first friend I'd ever made, and when he came over one day all high and messed up I asked him what was going on and he explained to me what it was and how to smoke it and I just knew that if I said no he wouldn't feel safe or comfortable hanging out with me anymore and would probably not come over anymore either so I started using with him. It became a semi daily thing where I would make up some story to whatever family member I could and they always would just throw money at me instead of spend any time with me so I figured it was a win-win. It wasn't until a few days after my 19th birthday that I quit both of those drugs cold turkey after we almost got raided at the little crack motel we were hanging out at. I guess im only bringing this up because quitting crack and methamphetamines is one of my only major accomplishments that I can speak of. That and a GED.

I have always felt on the outside of society, on the outside of everything, every relationship, friendship, interaction, I always feel like I'm between a glass divide. Like I'm an alien or some animal at a wildlife exhibit. I can't ever join in on light hearted conversation with people, *shooting-the-breeze* as they call it. I feel guilty and sad all the time because I actually have been fortunate to find a few close friends that I have as support in my life but I am so distant and so detached all the time even when they try to get me to warm up or help make me feel comfortable around them. Im living with a very good friend who is actually an ex girlfriend but we just couldn't navigate the messiness of having a relationship. I'm very not "boyfriend" material. She is so great though and sweet and supportive but I cannot shake this feeling of embarrassment and shame and humiliation when I'm around her. Its like that with anyone that I try to "hang out with" or spend any time one on one (even worse in groups, I don't do groups anymore anyway).

I can't hold down a job. Even though I have no felonies or misdemeanors or crazy sex crimes or anything bad on my criminal record, I can't ever pass a workplace background check. I imagine its because of bad credit, having been evicted before, never having stability and moving around constantly so never able to keep a job for any long term period of time. When I do find jobs I usually have problems with my co-workers even though I don't mean to. I get accused of being rude and people get nervous around me, they think I'm a bad person or "sketchy". I've even had people make mean remarks that I must be a serial killer. This is because I don't like when co-workers ask me personal questions. I don't want to be asked what I did over the weekend or what my parents do for a living or what I think about xyz political or social issue. When I am fortunate to find work, my only focus is going to my job to do the tasks that are expected of me. It makes me sad because I know that I make people uncomfortable and upset when I don't mean to, I don't actually dislike them or think I'm better than anyone else I just dont socialize very well at all.

Anyway, I joined this forum because I recently found a copy of Michael John Carley's "Aspergers From The Inside Out". For those who are unfamiliar, the author did not find out that he had ASD until well into his 30's. I've never resonated with a book so much or cried so much from a book before. After reading, I wanted to join this forum because I desperately need to reach out to others who can help me. One thing that I do have *FINALLY* is a primary care physician and health insurance. I have my very first appointment with a behavioral health specialist coming up and I want to find out how to approach this. Maybe you all can give me some pointers? I do not want a diagnosis to wear it like a badge or use it as a crutch. In a way, I want the diagnosis because for the very first time in 35 years there is finally a tiny glimpse of hope - like something inside of me saying "see, there HAVE been reasons why you have struggled so much, its NOT all entirely your fault, there isn't anything wrong with you as a person you are just wired differently."

Opening myself up to even the possibility of being on the spectrum is really the only thing I have right now that is helping me feel like I might really actually be "okay" after all. I'm sorry for sharing so much at one time. I don't need to sugar coat the fact that those who made it this far probably know by now that this whole post is just a big cry for help anyway so hopefully you all will be kind and patient with me. I know I have a lot of questions but I can't seem to formulate any of them right now. What I really look forward to is meeting more people who didn't find out until later on in life (mid thirties preferably, like me) that they were on the spectrum. I'd like to hear about other peoples journeys and maybe make some new friends that can give me some advice as well. Oh and what I would love to learn the most is how to stop the perpetual negative self-talk or negative inner-critic, how to turn off the never ending mental highlight reel of all of my past mistakes. It is invasive, overwhelming and at 35 years, its becoming too much for me to be able to bear and tolerate. I'd just really like that to go away so I can think clearly and be okay.

Thank you everyone I'll go ahead and wrap this up now.
 
Welcome to the forum. Alot of members have had struggles of varying degrees, and try to support others here. Some have issues with jobs, some also don't like socializing, others have sensory issues, others do feel out of the general social realm, so stay and read posts and just take a break.
 
Welcome!

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Welcome to the forum. Alot of members have had struggles of varying degrees, and try to support others here. Some have issues with jobs, some also don't like socializing, others have sensory issues, others do feel out of the general social realm, so stay and read posts and just take a break.
Hi @Aspychata, thank you for the warm welcome! I've been browsing a lot of the posts and comments from other members and I'm just very grateful to have found this place. I can already tell that there's a lot of great people here that I can learn from. Also your encouragement to take a break meant a lot to me. It was more needed than you might know.
 
Welcome.

The best thing I can suggest heading into a diagnostic process itvto make and bring in notes, especially on when you have the most challenges - the process can be stressful and anxiety-inducing and do it can be easy to forget things.

As for credit checks and work, having a little credit score can impact whether one is bondable* or at a reasonable rate, and so if you can work towards raising it, that would be good in general.

(Bondability refers to whether someone can be bonded - that is, whether an employer can purchase insurance against theft by said employee. Often important for jobs that handle money or valuable goods or information)
 
Welcome.

The best thing I can suggest heading into a diagnostic process itvto make and bring in notes, especially on when you have the most challenges - the process can be stressful and anxiety-inducing and do it can be easy to forget things.

As for credit checks and work, having a little credit score can impact whether one is bondable* or at a reasonable rate, and so if you can work towards raising it, that would be good in general.

(Bondability refers to whether someone can be bonded - that is, whether an employer can purchase insurance against theft by said employee. Often important for jobs that handle money or valuable goods or information)
Thank you so much for the advice on documenting the areas I struggle with the most! That is just the kind of practical knowledge I was looking for, thank you so much and for sharing that insight about raising my credit score. Much appreciated and nice meeting you.
 
In a pretty sad, lonely headspace right now I totally didn't mean to unload so much on the vent here. Consider this a trigger warning as well; I mention some rough upbringing in childhood and past history of substance abuse.

Hello everyone my name is Chris and I'm a 35 year old male here at the very beginning stages of my journey towards (possibly?) receiving a diagnosis. I'm at a place right now in my life where I am really struggling with existing. I am in a stuck, perpetually frozen sort of state where I feel so consumed and overwhelmed by how much of my life I have wasted with so little no show for it. I had no stability growing up, not only did we end up moving just about every year or so, but my parents fought all the time (before they divorced) and my mom struggled a lot with her own mental health and at times it was hard because she was not nice to me. I dont want to make her sound like a bad mom either because she already beats herself up so much about that as it is, I know she was really suffering with a lot and I didnt understand it at the time. There were a lot of really sad and scary times though. I never had a relationship with my dad much at all either and he ran off and got remarried and his new wife wouldn't let him have anything to do with me and he went along with it. Because of moms mental health I ended up getting shipped off to various relatives, aunts and uncles, grandparents when they were still alive, it seemed like my folks were just desperate to find someone else to take me off their hands. All in all it was a very confusing, lonely and isolating childhood and it left me with this feeling where no matter where I am at or who I am with I always feel unwanted, I always feel like the other shoe is about to drop and the rug is going to get pulled out from under my feet.

I didn't make any friends at all until I had already dropped out of school and the first friend I ever had was 19 when I was 12 and he introduced me to crack cocaine and methamphetamines. I don't mean to make him sound like a bad person either I mean no one put a gun to my head and told me to do drugs, I knew what they were and I knew the repercussions. I just didnt want to lose my only friend, the first friend I'd ever made, and when he came over one day all high and messed up I asked him what was going on and he explained to me what it was and how to smoke it and I just knew that if I said no he wouldn't feel safe or comfortable hanging out with me anymore and would probably not come over anymore either so I started using with him. It became a semi daily thing where I would make up some story to whatever family member I could and they always would just throw money at me instead of spend any time with me so I figured it was a win-win. It wasn't until a few days after my 19th birthday that I quit both of those drugs cold turkey after we almost got raided at the little crack motel we were hanging out at. I guess im only bringing this up because quitting crack and methamphetamines is one of my only major accomplishments that I can speak of. That and a GED.

I have always felt on the outside of society, on the outside of everything, every relationship, friendship, interaction, I always feel like I'm between a glass divide. Like I'm an alien or some animal at a wildlife exhibit. I can't ever join in on light hearted conversation with people, *shooting-the-breeze* as they call it. I feel guilty and sad all the time because I actually have been fortunate to find a few close friends that I have as support in my life but I am so distant and so detached all the time even when they try to get me to warm up or help make me feel comfortable around them. Im living with a very good friend who is actually an ex girlfriend but we just couldn't navigate the messiness of having a relationship. I'm very not "boyfriend" material. She is so great though and sweet and supportive but I cannot shake this feeling of embarrassment and shame and humiliation when I'm around her. Its like that with anyone that I try to "hang out with" or spend any time one on one (even worse in groups, I don't do groups anymore anyway).

I can't hold down a job. Even though I have no felonies or misdemeanors or crazy sex crimes or anything bad on my criminal record, I can't ever pass a workplace background check. I imagine its because of bad credit, having been evicted before, never having stability and moving around constantly so never able to keep a job for any long term period of time. When I do find jobs I usually have problems with my co-workers even though I don't mean to. I get accused of being rude and people get nervous around me, they think I'm a bad person or "sketchy". I've even had people make mean remarks that I must be a serial killer. This is because I don't like when co-workers ask me personal questions. I don't want to be asked what I did over the weekend or what my parents do for a living or what I think about xyz political or social issue. When I am fortunate to find work, my only focus is going to my job to do the tasks that are expected of me. It makes me sad because I know that I make people uncomfortable and upset when I don't mean to, I don't actually dislike them or think I'm better than anyone else I just dont socialize very well at all.

Anyway, I joined this forum because I recently found a copy of Michael John Carley's "Aspergers From The Inside Out". For those who are unfamiliar, the author did not find out that he had ASD until well into his 30's. I've never resonated with a book so much or cried so much from a book before. After reading, I wanted to join this forum because I desperately need to reach out to others who can help me. One thing that I do have *FINALLY* is a primary care physician and health insurance. I have my very first appointment with a behavioral health specialist coming up and I want to find out how to approach this. Maybe you all can give me some pointers? I do not want a diagnosis to wear it like a badge or use it as a crutch. In a way, I want the diagnosis because for the very first time in 35 years there is finally a tiny glimpse of hope - like something inside of me saying "see, there HAVE been reasons why you have struggled so much, its NOT all entirely your fault, there isn't anything wrong with you as a person you are just wired differently."

Opening myself up to even the possibility of being on the spectrum is really the only thing I have right now that is helping me feel like I might really actually be "okay" after all. I'm sorry for sharing so much at one time. I don't need to sugar coat the fact that those who made it this far probably know by now that this whole post is just a big cry for help anyway so hopefully you all will be kind and patient with me. I know I have a lot of questions but I can't seem to formulate any of them right now. What I really look forward to is meeting more people who didn't find out until later on in life (mid thirties preferably, like me) that they were on the spectrum. I'd like to hear about other peoples journeys and maybe make some new friends that can give me some advice as well. Oh and what I would love to learn the most is how to stop the perpetual negative self-talk or negative inner-critic, how to turn off the never ending mental highlight reel of all of my past mistakes. It is invasive, overwhelming and at 35 years, its becoming too much for me to be able to bear and tolerate. I'd just really like that to go away so I can think clearly and be okay.

Thank you everyone I'll go ahead and wrap this up now.
Hello there. Welcome to the forum. I’m really sorry you had to go through all of that. I also make a mouthful of a few things as well, so you’re not alone on that.

I think it’d be best if you learn to accept the way you are and be true to yourself. I feel for you and I hope you find peace within yourself without beating yourself up all the time.
 
Hello there. Welcome to the forum. I’m really sorry you had to go through all of that. I also make a mouthful of a few things as well, so you’re not alone on that.

I think it’d be best if you learn to accept the way you are and be true to yourself. I feel for you and I hope you find peace within yourself without beating yourself up all the time.

These words really mean the world to me. I have only recently begun unpacking and resolving so much accumulated self-hate. There's an excellent book by Cheri Huber that I have read and keep reading over and over trying to get it to sink in. It's called There Is Nothing Wrong With You: Going Beyond Self Hate. It's written in handwriting style on the pages with doodles and reads pretty quickly but it's also a very intense read for me. One of those that I have to put down and take a walk or have a good cry about stuff and I've been making a concerted effort at sticking with some of the exercises mentioned. Not so much because I have any particular blind faith in the author's techniques, or because I really do believe I can get past this self hatred, but because it gives me something I can build upon to form a positive constructive routine in my life, even if its something small. Thanks again and I appreciate you stopping by my thread and saying that. Hope to see you around more.
 
These words really mean the world to me. I have only recently begun unpacking and resolving so much accumulated self-hate. There's an excellent book by Cheri Huber that I have read and keep reading over and over trying to get it to sink in. It's called There Is Nothing Wrong With You: Going Beyond Self Hate. It's written in handwriting style on the pages with doodles and reads pretty quickly but it's also a very intense read for me. One of those that I have to put down and take a walk or have a good cry about stuff and I've been making a concerted effort at sticking with some of the exercises mentioned. Not so much because I have any particular blind faith in the author's techniques, or because I really do believe I can get past this self hatred, but because it gives me something I can build upon to form a positive constructive routine in my life, even if its something small. Thanks again and I appreciate you stopping by my thread and saying that. Hope to see you around more.
You’re welcome. I’m glad you appreciate that.
 
Glad to have you here, @ChrisCRISPR

Good bits of your story fit a good majority of my own. While I still am filling the blanks in, I know enough to say that I know where your coming from.

My family life hasn't been the best either. Though the difference is that my bio mother pretty well abandoned me and dad when I was 1. My stepmother, who remains to be so, is not the best person either. A control freak, narsist, and fuse so short that you would be forgiven to compare her to a endless arsenal of nuclear warheads.

As far as negative self-talk, I am still struggling with that myself. Though I am putting pieces together to why I do it.

There is a video I'd like you to see that can help. While the topic relates to Aspergers. I personally think this can generally be a lunching point for understanding why anyone would eventually engage into negative self-talk. Especially for any of us on the spectrum.

 
Glad to have you here, @ChrisCRISPR

Good bits of your story fit a good majority of my own. While I still am filling the blanks in, I know enough to say that I know where your coming from.

My family life hasn't been the best either. Though the difference is that my bio mother pretty well abandoned me and dad when I was 1. My stepmother, who remains to be so, is not the best person either. A control freak, narsist, and fuse so short that you would be forgiven to compare her to a endless arsenal of nuclear warheads.

As far as negative self-talk, I am still struggling with that myself. Though I am putting pieces together to why I do it.

There is a video I'd like you to see that can help. While the topic relates to Aspergers. I personally think this can generally be a lunching point for understanding why anyone would eventually engage into negative self-talk. Especially for any of us on the spectrum.


@Xinyta thank you so much for sharing that video with me. It really helps me to be able to see my internal thought processes mapped out in such a way like that triangle.

I really related to what he says in the beginning of the video..whenever the friend that I live with leaves the house to go anywhere, I have a tendency to struggle because of separation anxiety and other fears. I try to never show it, I don't want to call and pester my friend about when they'll be home, but usually my mind will jump to the worst and most fear inducing scenarios. Maybe they got in a car accident, maybe someone mugged them or they got kidnapped. It was just like the speaker in the video described. And those thoughts can get very loud and invasive and scary and real to me.

I really appreciate you thinking of me to share that video, I'm also going to show my friend too! Phew, and don't even get me started on "stepmothers"! Haha maybe that's a story for another day. I don't mean to sound "thankful" for your suffering or struggles, but I am thankful that you ARE able to relate a bit, and ARE able to know where I'm coming from because a lot of people can't, and don't. It's nice meeting you on here. Hope to interact more.
 
I'm glad the video has helped and your welcome~

I have found that video and others made by Danny Reade on his Asperger Experts channel, really usefull. Even though it's aspergers focused, a good bit can still be applied to the spectrum as a whole.

No need to apologize for being thankful. I am happy glad that I could help in some way. Though that's what being here is about. Helping eachother through the journey we now are on with dealing with being on the spectrum. We all will have bad days. We all will have things we cannot control. But none of us are alone. No matter how it may feel.

I am around a good bit, and I know others will pop on fairly often. We all are happy to help.
 
I'm glad the video has helped and your welcome~

I have found that video and others made by Danny Reade on his Asperger Experts channel, really usefull. Even though it's aspergers focused, a good bit can still be applied to the spectrum as a whole.

No need to apologize for being thankful. I am happy glad that I could help in some way. Though that's what being here is about. Helping eachother through the journey we now are on with dealing with being on the spectrum. We all will have bad days. We all will have things we cannot control. But none of us are alone. No matter how it may feel.

I am around a good bit, and I know others will pop on fairly often. We all are happy to help.

That last sentence there really sums up what I really love about this forum. I have been around the "message board" block, if you will, generally on niche subjects, weird interests, whatever. I'll usually go to lurk and find interesting things to read or research. But even on other forums, I still feel like an outsider even if its with people who share my interests. However, this feels more like genuine community and it also feels like somewhere I can finally belong. And right now, after the past couple weeks and the really bad dark mental state I've been in, this place is like breathing new life in me.
 
Hello and welcome. Looks like you are settling in okay. I am glad that you have this place to talk about your thoughts and feelings. Let us know if you need any help figuring things out on the forum.
 
I guess im only bringing this up because quitting crack and methamphetamines is one of my only major accomplishments that I can speak of. That and a GED.

I'm happy to see you give yourself credit for these two things. Certainly they are major. I also can see you retain motivation and a realistic openness to things. It's pretty clear people have let you down, but also it's clear that there is a lot of substance inside you can rely on to partly make up for that.
 
I'm happy to see you give yourself credit for these two things. Certainly they are major. I also can see you retain motivation and a realistic openness to things. It's pretty clear people have let you down, but also it's clear that there is a lot of substance inside you can rely on to partly make up for that.

I very much appreciate you saying that. Thank you.
 

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