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Intellect verus emotion

Depends how much you let stuff rile you up. Stress levels tend to make thinking rather foggy if you're battering yourself emotionally day in day out.

Ed
 
Raggamuffin said:
Depends how much you let stuff rile you up. Stress levels tend to make thinking rather foggy if you're battering yourself emotionally day in day out.

Ed
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I *was* easily riled. I'm now figuring out ways to balance all this so it happens less. Calm and slower is what I need to be.
 
Even if you do get riled up - how long you hold onto the negativity, anxiety, depressive thoughts etc. is up to you. I know that might come across as insultingly simplistic thinking - but we really do have a choice at the end of the day. A shifting perspective when you feel at your lowest, or in the midst of high anxiety etc. is invaluable to healing and clearing your head.

A walk out in nature is also very grounding. Some fresh air, some time to reflect and ponder the oneness of the self in nature etc.

Ed
 
Raggamuffin said:
Even if you do get riled up - how long you hold onto the negativity, anxiety, depressive thoughts etc. is up to you. I know that might come across as insultingly simplistic thinking - but we really do have a choice at the end of the day. A shifting perspective when you feel at your lowest, or in the midst of high anxiety etc. is invaluable to healing and clearing your head.

A walk out in nature is also very grounding. Some fresh air, some time to reflect and ponder the oneness of the self in nature etc.

Ed
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Thanks. Don't worry at all about insulting me, I get you. It's all very helpful.
 
I really don't go anywhere anymore and I do get annoyed sometimes. Quite often I'll write a post in annoyance then once I'm done writing... I've vented so there is no longer a need to post what I have written.

There's no point getting angry at someone on the net... it's a waste of time.
 
maycontainthunder said:
I really don't go anywhere anymore and I do get annoyed sometimes. Quite often I'll write a post in annoyance then once I'm done writing... I've vented so there is no longer a need to post what I have written.

There's no point getting angry at someone on the net... it's a waste of time.
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No, there's no point in winding yourself up. I'm already pretty emotionless when dealing with people who are on the wind up.
 
Dave Nicholson said:
Since finding I'm a lot calmer now, I think my intellect is getting sharper.
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Wasn't there a line from Star Wars where Yoda was describing how "emotions cloud the brain"? Emotions, especially those triggered by the fear center, the amygdala, will definitely bypass the centers of the brain responsible for logical, rational thinking.

Personally, I am extremely self-aware of this. When my brain gets exhausted, my ability to modulate my emotional state is severely compromised,...and my ability to think rationally and logically is all but gone. This is when I become my worst,...thinking and saying things that I normally wouldn't,...being a total jerk around people,...my ability to problem solve and take in perspective is hampered,...it's not good.

I tend to stay in a neutral emotional state whenever possible. L-theanine 200mg morning and afternoon has helped quite a bit.
 
Neonatal RRT said:
Wasn't there a line from Star Wars where Yoda was describing how "emotions cloud the brain"? Emotions, especially those triggered by the fear center, the amygdala, will definitely bypass the centers of the brain responsible for logical, rational thinking.

Personally, I am extremely self-aware of this. When my brain gets exhausted, my ability to modulate my emotional state is severely compromised,...and my ability to think rationally and logically is all but gone. This is when I become my worst,...thinking and saying things that I normally wouldn't,...being a total jerk around people,...my ability to problem solve and take in perspective is hampered,...it's not good.

I tend to stay in a neutral emotional state whenever possible. L-theanine 200mg morning and afternoon has helped quite a bit.
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I'be been on SSRIs for a few years now and they had already made a huge difference to me. It's just going to get better now, already edging down my dosage, just to see what happens (no need to rush).
Cheers
 
Neonatal RRT said:
Wasn't there a line from Star Wars where Yoda was describing how "emotions cloud the brain"? Emotions, especially those triggered by the fear center, the amygdala, will definitely bypass the centers of the brain responsible for logical, rational thinking.

Personally, I am extremely self-aware of this. When my brain gets exhausted, my ability to modulate my emotional state is severely compromised,...and my ability to think rationally and logically is all but gone. This is when I become my worst,...thinking and saying things that I normally wouldn't,...being a total jerk around people,...my ability to problem solve and take in perspective is hampered,...it's not good.

I tend to stay in a neutral emotional state whenever possible. L-theanine 200mg morning and afternoon has helped quite a bit.
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Regarding L-theanine--that is found in green tea; would drinking tea be a decent way to get that?
 
Neonatal RRT said:
There is roughly 25mg of L-theanine in a cup of green tea. My daily dose is roughly 400mg,...so 16 cups of green tea worth.
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Oh wow, that's a lot of tea!
Well, that's really interesting & I am glad that is working for you! I wonder a lot about this stuff but am not really good at figuring out what works.
 
In my own experience it was definately a very positive development, for me and those around me.
 
Dave Nicholson said:
That was my exact thoughts. I'm at my peak in the morning when I wake up. In the afternoon, not so much. Thanks.
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my mam(mom, mum) had pseudo bulbar palsy (she found that in the morning she could speak but as the day wore on on she couldn't speak) then she lost her speech altogether she had motor neurone disease (A.L.S is lower motor neurone disease), interestingly it only seemed to work when she was reading the Bible, still have the Bible don't know what she was reading
 
When you are in a highly agitated state, your thinking process goes down the toilet. Lust, anger, fear, love; they all take a rational person and turn them into a chimpanzee.
 
Dave Nicholson said:
Since finding I'm a lot calmer now, I think my intellect is getting sharper.
Thoughts?
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Strong emotions are a well known cause of irrational thinking which is why cognitive distortions (which often result in frequent misunderstandings and incorrect interpretations) are very common in people diagnosed with mental health disorders.

If you watch debates, you'll often notice that people who are emotionally mature (they remain calm and in good control of their emotions regardless of what happens) tend to be more intelligent, think logically, and present the best arguments. People who are emotionally immature (highly sensitive, frequently offended, easily triggered, prone to tantrums/meltdowns, who may need to retreat to safe spaces when people disagree with them or when they don't get what they want) tend to present the most irrational arguments based on their emotions with little or no intellectual understanding.

To sum it up, being calmer/less affected by distressing emotions allows you to think more clearly and intellectually. I don't have a link but I remember reading that some children with a below average IQ who suffered from an emotional disturbance saw their IQ increase to well above average (I think their IQ went from 80 to 130) after overcoming their emotional problems.
 
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Au Naturel said:
When you are in a highly agitated state, your thinking process goes down the toilet. Lust, anger, fear, love; they all take a rational person and turn them into a chimpanzee.
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This is *not* intended to alarm anyone, I'm being factual. I have a strong aversion to game playing, but it can be very useful in certain circumstances.

I'm thinking far more logically now. Good.

Lust is something I have no need for any more, it's a useless distraction. I've passed on my genes. I look forward to my testosterone declining to an extent, which will support this even further.

Anger is something I want to keep, but use sensibly; It's useful for self-protection, and for the protection of others. Not for physical reasons, if you understand me, I am strongly averse to that aspect.

Fear is another emotion which is useful at times, for self-protection. I am in control of this completely now and will embrace it only when required.

Love is a critical emotion, imo. It's what makes us human and is strongly linked to empathy. We know the type who have zero empathy and the harm they inflict. I have direct experience in my personal life, with others I am strongly protective of.

Empathy is very acute in me. I have this with *everyone*, with the exception of those who have none. In the past, this has caused me anguish. Anguish has all but disappeared. Calmness is key.

Empathy, and love are my top priorities.
 
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