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Is this what life is really about?

Major Tom

Searching for ground control...
V.I.P Member
After a night of working, I was riding home one the train doing one of my favorite things, people watching. I feel that an individual with ASD I am uncharacteristically good at reading people. Anyways, I couldn't help but to notice how unhappy people looked. It brought to mind lyrics to one of my favorite songs, "and now you have that look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky"... Everywhere I looked, there were exhausted people with frowns on their faces, gazing into their cellphones like programmed robots. People standing next to each other texting... It was surreal.

I couldn't help but to think that there has to be more to life than this... People are losing their humanity, sociability, and joy of living. All for what? What do you think life is really about? Is it the almighty dollar and social acceptance? Or does life hold deeper meaning to you?
 
I get annoyed by this. I wish people would interact and put their phones AWAY! Out of site. I see families sitting together in cafes, all glued to their phone and I find it very sad. I give people my undivided attention. You never know how long you’ll have left to see each other again.
 
I get annoyed by this. I wish people would interact and put their phones AWAY! Out of site. I see families sitting together in cafes, all glued to their phone and I find it very sad. I give people my undivided attention. You never know how long you’ll have left to see each other again.
Agreed 100% I am as guilty as the rest though at times. However with someone I usually give undivided attention. It seems like the only way I really interact is via the internet. I hate it.. Before the days of the internet I interacted rather well, but since I started getting into it, I was literally sucked right in.
 
I tend to think that people are sucked into the technology as an escape from lives that don't really have much meaning. Most people, throughout history, have led lives that are about keeping food on the table, not about meaning. The outward look has changed, but the basics haven't. You do the work that's available to do, and find ways to amuse yourself in your free time.
 
I couldn't help but to think that there has to be more to life than this... People are losing their humanity, sociability, and joy of living. All for what? Ignorance.

What do you think life is really about? Worthwhile creation, worthwhile progression / mastery, and contributions to the larger consciousness groupings. At some point there are limitations imposed on our consciousness in which we would have to be gods to understand. I'm not referring to that "we are all gods!" belief. Actual masters and gods of creation. Writing laws for a universe in the third dimension or higher. Creating over trillions of life forms. Coding and creating life itself. Right now, at best any human can do... is just speculate from an inadequate human perspective. Even the enlightened ones... are given more understanding than the others. But not to such an extent as the full gravity of our purpose.

Is it the almighty dollar and social acceptance? Neither

Or does life hold deeper meaning to you? Yes


Your observation / realization reminds me of a story. Where a prisoner was released after doing 25 years or so. He came into a world where people had these strange devices in their ears, looks like they were talking to themselves. These cell phones which everyone was enslaved by. Lots of drastic societal changes that aren't readily spotted by people because of slow, prolonged incremental exposure.

If you pursue that realization it will lead to some pretty interesting places. You'll find out why things are the way they are. Why these people are lost in trance and know nothing.
 
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Eventually, young Babies will be born with mobile phones in their hands IMO, Smh @ People who can't function unless they're glued to their Facebook account or whatever on their phone.
 
For me, the meaning of life is to worship my Creator ( I say: "my", as a default) and to take care of what I see as creation world or at least a piece of the world :p

To keep myself spiritually alert and to look forward to what I believe for the future.

There was one time, I visited my birth place ie the uk and I was staying with my sister and we went out and I was so shocked to see what seemed EVERYONE with their heads down, looking at a device. Now, I did have one, but was not like that and yes, it was utterly surreal and I would never wish to be one of those who another person looks at and thinks the same as I did.
 
All those people have their basic needs met by their jobs, and then some. This leaves them with nothing to do but clamor for meaning; they need to find a reason to exist, but they don't know where to look. They look to their social lives, in hopes that the perceived love from others will give their lives meaning.

But at the end of the day, they've still spent 18-20 out of the 24 of their hours either working, commuting, or sleeping. Hard to find meaning with such little downtime.
 
Being human isn't our natural, primary plane of existence. This is just a temporary place where we as magnanimous, eternal beings put ourselves through our own personal versions of hell, mostly just to accrue an experience in which we "catalog" in our minds to give our eternal souls a sense of perspective.

That our true plane of existence ("the other side") has nothing arduous to deal with. Where life is blissful, yet it's an environment that probably doesn't foster much spiritual growth. A literal manifestation of the saying, "No pain, no gain." So we come here for that, and mostly on our own terms. And no matter how ugly or meaningless this temporary existence may seem, the experiences and memories we collect while here do not impair or harm us in any way on the other side.

Whether one went through the Dark Ages struggling to survive each day or having their nose buried in their iPhone in the 21st century...it's all profoundly relative when you see "the big picture" for what it really is.
 
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I don't think that there is a greater meaning of life as such, other than to complete the cycle of being born, maturing, having kids so the cycle can begin again, and then dying. Beyond that, each person needs to decide for himself or herself what the meaning of life is for them, it is personal and unique to that person; for some, it is family, for others, poetry or writing, for others, providing a secure environment for their children, and providing for their future, for others, it might be a project or a discovery or an achievement, or living for the moment, or a spiritual purpose. It's up to each person to give meaning to their life, in a way that makes sense to them and gives them a fulfilling life.
 
Don't really consider the people you are writing about unhappy. Merely wishing for intellectual stimulation, much like reading something on a train or bus. Playing games on their phones, or texting someone seems somewhat equivalent these days.

At one time I worked at a welcome center, for indigenous people from canada's north. They never smiled, except when they ate with family. These were people who lived in remote communities, with few outside influences. Happiness for them, was when they had lots of food, and family members nearby. The rest of the time they looked grim even unhappy I thought. They were unable to pretend at society's insistence at good humor, it never came naturally to them. Think their way is likely more normal that we like to think.

Within a year in the community, their children first, and then the parents were smiling much more often. They learned quickly that it was expected.

Before, they would greet one another by asking a name and tribal ancestry, they still do. To establish if they should be enemies or friends. :) Seems more realistic to me.
 
I think that the Earth is still a beautiful, wonderful place (albeit strained). I think something intended for Humanity to become gradually more enlightened, eventually expanding all over the world and beyond, walking with Good. Having a good time and such. But humans went in their heads early on and built a world with good hearts and intentions aAND hidden evil. The evil isn't so hidden anymore. In fact, it's blaring and in plain sight. To me, it's a good thing NTs are appearing sad. Bout time! This world sucks and they are the only ones who can collectively do anything about it!!!
 
I do think it's important to remember the various functions that these phones have. They are, effectively, portable computers.

Some people will check Facebook alot, but remember: The point of the site, much as I hate it, is communication. More importantly though, it's an easy to understand site that even those who are about as techy as a dead frog can use. So it ends up being one of the few ways to keep in touch with certain individuals in their lives. Particularly family members that may live far away.

But it's more than that. Some may be checking news. Others may be checking a map, particularly since many major areas are designed by complete maniacs. They could be playing a game, passing the time, which as far as I'm concerned is a hell of alot better than staring off into space like a moron. Maybe they're watching a video. Or, they may be using one of the most direct forms of communication: Texting. THAT one, I can understand completely. I *hate* phone calls. Most of the time, I utterly refuse to do them, and will never pick up if called (unless it's my father or mother calling me, but they know I hate that and so wont do it unless I'm travelling). Texting is a way of getting quick bits of communication done without having to make an entire freaking phone call, just to ask someone something like "Did you pick up that important thing from the store today, or should I do it?" That's not worth a phone call to me.

Hell, a phone is even a flashlight now. Granted you're not going to see THAT function used in subways or whatever, but it shows just how versatile the things are.

People have these devices for a reason, same as why they might have a desktop PC or a laptop.



Now, as far as people seeming unhappy, I see a specific reason for that: The typical behavior that many have of simply following the herd. They end up doing things they DONT want to, because "it's the thing to do". And that's often literally the entire reason. You can often watch someone's mood drain as they do something like that, if you're observant enough.

Me, I just bloody refuse to do stuff like that. I couldnt care less if something is "the thing to do". If I dont want to do it, I'm not going to do it. Like drinking... I'm not interested in what is effectively a potion of stupidity. I dont care that it's "social" (which, if you really analyze it, makes no sense at all). I'm not going to do it. I'm also not going to go to parties. They're boring and loud. Why subject myself to unpleasant things when I dont have to?

But so many people just dont see it that way. And sometimes it gets really extreme, like those stupid "challenges" you see now. They're often REALLY unpleasant, and sometimes outright dangerous, but again, there's that "follow the herd" mentality, and people WILL do them purely because of that, no matter how freaking dumb it is. And then watch as their mood REALLY drains as they experience the consequences of whatever idiotic thing they just did.

Another reason though: Jobs. Most jobs are braindead experiences. Not some jobs: MOST of them. I dont work anymore... havent in about a decade. But I remember that when I did, they were all freaking MISERABLE. I had one job... ONE... that was actually mentally engaging, and that was operating a pair of check sorters at a bank (very rare machines that sort the checks for a huge amount of banks in one region). And the reason it was mentally engaging is because the things were made out of distilled crazy. They'd do things like tear stuff up, spray checks into the air randomly, lock up, or start to put out smoke. Among other crazy things. They're huge machines and needed constant monitoring and fixing, so there was never a dull moment. But that was just that job. Every other one I had... and I had many... was a braindead, soul-sucking experience that absolutely could have been done (and now often is) by a rather simplistic computer/machine of some sort. And some were even dumber than a job like that. Think of someone that works as a Wal-mart greeter. I'm convinced it's a job that's at the absolute bottom of the barrel. Just standing there, for hours on end, saying "welcome to Derp-Mart" over and over... if these people DONT go home in a miserable or angry state, I'd both be very surprised, and wonder at their sanity. Which probably cracks after enough time doing it.

Some people of course can get jobs doing stuff they love, but that's usually some sort of "crafting" thing. Whatever that may be. Maybe someone builds stuff out of wood. Maybe someone else is a programmer. They make things they're passionate about, and that prevents the usual problems. I know someone like that, a game developer who I've contracted with a few times, and the guy will often work 12-hour work days. Does he have to? No. But it's what he loves doing, so even despite the stress, he'll do it anyway.

But that's pretty rare. Alot of people just dont end up doing stuff like that.

And worse, many jobs involve working for nasty corporate entities, groups that absolutely couldnt care less about their lowly grunts, and that absolutely WILL throw you under the bus if they think it'll benefit them.


Lastly, some may just be in a place they hate. That one is MY reason. I live in Illinois. I. Hate. Every. Square inch of it. My mood is perpetually bad as long as I'm stuck here, only lightening up when I travel to... basically any other freaking place. Well, any place south of here. It's the climate, you see. I hate it. Well, it's also the area. A traffic filled mess full of morons in one direction, and an utterly blank, unending expanse of grass and farms in the other. I'd rather live where it's warm, near the ocean down south. I was down at the island house over this last week, and for once, I wasnt in an "I hate everything mood". I get back to this stupid hole in the ground, and my mood is immediately terrible. I'm betting I'm not alone in feeling this way.



So, yeah, I think those are a couple of reasons.
 
What's important to me is trying to get people to see that our planet's health and all the creatures on it are more important than mindlessly chasing fiscal growth at any price.
I'm not religious at all, but it seems to me we are heading for a modern version of 'Sodom and Gomorrah'.
 

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