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Making my explanations way too long...

RubenX

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I don't think making long explanations is an Aspie issue (bear with me, I'm new) but rather a by-product of being an Aspie for a long time. See, when I explain something, people never get my point and start making questions about what I said. So now I rehearse topics in my head before I say anything. I try to think about any possible question people might have and I edit the story in my head. For example, imagine you told me few days ago that you needed a new drill. Then I see a drill on sale. I start with the simple one:

"I saw the xyz power drill on sale @ x-store"

Then I remember there are other stores close by and people will probably complain about x-store being too far away. So I add some math and edit my story before I say it:

"You live in a-county. It takes you 30 minutes to travel to b-county. With current gas prices, that's about $10 bucks round trip. And in b-county, the xyz power drill is on sale. They have it $30 bucks cheaper, minus $10 bucks it cost you to get there, is still $20 bucks cheaper".

And it keeps going on and on. By the time I finally tell you about the drill, I also tell you about the wars in Africa and how they disrupted the mines where the raw materials to make the drill came from...

With a story like the above example, the worst that can happen is that you end up buying whatever cheap drill you find @ the dollar store next door. I would see you with the dollar store drill and think "I did it again, I talked to much about something a people didn't cared". I would feel awkward at the most. But no biggie, next time I tell somebody about the drill I will also add dollar stores in my research so I could cover all points.

Now, the real problem comes when there is actual money or benefits in the balance and getting the money or benefits depends on the listener understanding and believing my story. I'm unemployed and I've been unemployed for almost a year now. People usually think I'm just lazy. People start making the usual questions and every answer I give just leads to more questions. And If I try to provide a full explanation that would cover everything, people don't want to hear it. I was asking for food stamps some months ago. I didn't wanted to do it, but I had to in order to get medical coverage for my kids. And I'm on the phone trying to explain to the DCF lady about the current situation with IT Jobs being outsourced to India, and the lady said "just are just going around in circles", hung up the phone and denied my application. It's very frustrating, I have the answers but I can't make it short. If I make it short, people don't believe it. If I make it long, people don't want to hear it.

This is something I've struggle for so long. I used to think I was just "the unlucky one" and that people don't believe me because the things that happen to me are always the "weirdest and most complicated situations". But now I starting to think that *maybe* just *maybe*, my situations are not complicated or weird at all and it is I that can't possibly explain it without sounding "weird" and "complicated".

Hopefully, I'm not the only one dealing with this kind of problems and I will find some fellow Aspies who could give me some pointers on how to "get my point across" with non-Aspie-humans.
 
Just read a majority of my posts here... you know I'm somewhat in the same boat, lol. I just can't give short answers.

It's also a problem when I actually need something at a store. The way I solve issues like this is by mostly going to bigger storechains. Service is crap anyway, so I can pick my items, check out and leave. No one will get me started as means of small talk or a bit of service while wanting to buy a product.

Also; yes... finding the correct amount of information is a problem for me. I'm quite sure people have glanced over my posts anywhere on the world wide web and rolled their eyes and went... "dont have time for this BS", but just like any story, it adds up in the end. I can elaborate on an example, and in the end I've told you why I think it's like that. That's the way I answer and reply. I can't deal with people who can't listen, I can't deal with people who only have limited time either. I have constant arguments with my doctor if I head over there for whatever reason. I have 10 minutes, but that's never enough to explain what's going on. Result; wrong treatment. And this, while a person like him is educated and qualified to listen to people, filter all "unneccesary' information and pinpoint the problem, not practically snooze away.

I think with professionals the biggest issue is time. They don't have time to listen for 30 minutes.

Why do you feel the need to elaborate?
 
Oh wow, I so seriously am in your camp on this topic and will watch the answers with interest as I too have this problem!
I am quite verbose myself, I used to think it was because nobody listened to me that I would try to make my speaking more colourful or interesting but it just seemed to get longer and more factual and less interesting, when I answer someone succinctly I think of all the important information I could be giving them on that same topic and it makes me want to scream that they don?t want to hear it, that?s why I am good at giving directions, I can?t tell you the names of streets but I can describe the route in such detail even a blind person could find the way.
Another example of over talking a subject would be:

Warning: Example may be exaggerated for comedic effect ; ]
Person: Hey, do you know a good place to eat?
Me: Depends on what you?re after, do you want a take away, a restaurant or a counter meal.
Person: Oh, Ummm, just something quick...
Me: Well there are 10 pubs, 4 pizza places, 2 burger joints, 3 fish & chip shops, 1 Indian, 1 Thai, 3 after hours restaurants, 12 cafe's, 3 coffee places...
Person: Thanks... I HAVE TO GO NOW... please...
Me: Wait, I didn?t tell you about the 4 Chinese, 6 petrol station/ truck stops or the ice cream parlour or the 2 donut shops or the 2 hot dog stands or...

Me: Hey why are you talking to that policeman and pointing at me?
 
Person: Hey, do you know a good place to eat?
Me: Depends on what you’re after, do you want a take away, a restaurant or a counter meal.
Person: Oh, Ummm, just something quick...
Me: Define quick...

That's where I even make the question more interesting and for some people tiresome... most people don't ask me a 2nd time, lol
 
@King_Oni: you just mention another HUGE issue for me: The Doctors and their short time. You are right on the spot there: "Can't Sleep? Get some downers. Can't stay awake? Get some uppers. U sad? Here's some happy pills". Not a single effort is made to find out why I can't sleep or stay awake or why I'm sad. They just throw some random diagnosis on the table and call it a day. :S

@gomendosi: Yes... I can totally relate. At previous jobs I was always *THE GUY TO GO TO* when a manager wanted a detailed manual on a new procedure, explaining every single thing that could go wrong and how to fix it. But if they had a specific question, they will tell somebody else to read my manual and then ask *them*. At home my fiance sometimes comes at me and starts with the following statement "I have a question but for the love of God, I only want a quick answer". 30 minutes later she's say "you know what? never-mind... just forget the whole thing".
 
I don't know if it is a specifically Aspie trait but it definitely is a family trait within my family. I don't know if it is because I come from a family of teachers and/or also voracious readers, but it took me a LONG time to break me of it. I tend to be far more wordy in my blog writing than I am in person because I figure that someone who has taken the time to sit down and actually read it is someone who is interested in the subject and has the time to follow my thread of argument than someone who isn't. They have a choice in other words to read or not read.

But when I am speaking to someone I have learned basically to keep it short and sweet. As my aunt once said to me, "just because you are interested in something, just because it means a lot to you, doesn't mean it means a lot to others. You cannot expect other people to be as interested in what you are interested in." And she is right. Most people are not interested. They don't have the interest, they don't have the attention span, they don't have the time and they have too many competing demands on them. I have learned one or two short sentences are the max. Occasionally someone will sit down and appear to shower me with attention and that is where the danger is because I have to keep telling myself to keep it short and sweet and not give into the temptation to go on and on.

Since I no longer live near my family or shall I say they no longer live near me I have noticed this tendency in my other family members to go on and on and on about things. As I said my family tends to be a little better educated than many of the people around me plus I have also realized that they never really have done a lot of socializing. Otherwise they might realize that long-winded answers are not what most people are looking for. I myself have become much more neurotypical in that regard in that it is hard for me not to cut in and be rude to them as so many have done to me in a similar situation. But that is, I am afraid, how I learned what was and what was not acceptable social behavior outside of my family.
 

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