Mobidity and Death

[lunarious]

Morbidity means ~ Death. So Stoics and Samurais had Memento Mori and meditation on Death. It increased their bravery and satisfaction in life, maybe even enjoyment.

I don't see the connection, but i will have to discover that. Inshallah. And burn some fat.

Now:

 

[Neonatal RRT]

"Morbidity means ~ Death." At least in terms of medical terminology, morbidity is the presence of an illness, condition, or disease. Mortality refers to death.

Morbidity vs. Mortality Rate: What’s the Difference?

 

[lunarious]

I'd say society is Morbid. Based on this Defintion. (edit) I don't know.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

I'd say society is Morbid. Based on this Defintion. (edit) I don't know.

It certainly seems that way. Human beings seem to be so "negatively wired"... likely some instinctual survival mechanism related to fear responses. It just manifests itself in all manner of negative and cruel ways... a "disease" upon society, if you will... morbidity.

It is a challenge to combat all this pervasive negativity and be the one person who says to him/herself... "Enough is enough"... "I am not going to be a part of this anymore"... "No more negativity".

What I find interesting is that people are attracted to positivity in others. Deep down they almost see it as an "intellectual sanctuary" where they feel safe and secure. Yet, when others around us are negative, there is a tendency to join in and amplify it... knowing that it only leads to suffering. I find this behavior very interesting. I've just made a personal decision to stop being negative... be more spiritual... and break free from "The Matrix" that is corrupting societies.

 

[lunarious]

Thank you.

 

[lunarious]

It certainly seems that way. Human beings seem to be so "negatively wired"... likely some instinctual survival mechanism related to fear responses. It just manifests itself in all manner of negative and cruel ways... a "disease" upon society, if you will... morbidity.

People are medically told to not be Defensive, and to not have a Defense mechanism.

Yet still people are taught self-defence and they think it is cool to be part of The Avengers and Defence Forces. They become armoured.

Through my study of defence, i learned that I have to self-attack, like Samurai do hara-kiri cutting their belly. Attack my "evil-commanding soul".

Karate is attacking your Ego. The only enemy is inside our-self. I don't have to Defend others nor attack others. Google Ego, through i recognize Freud.

(edit) So in Islam this self/ego is our enemy and must be controlled. The self/ego is animalistic, we are however Royal Loyal and Divine i pray.

 

[AprilR]

I try to remember death when i am feeling particularly low or not grateful. To know life is limited and one day it will be over gives me peace. I only wish me and my family to have a peaceful death

 

[lunarious]

 

[Neonatal RRT]

People are medically told to not be Defensive, and to not have a Defense mechanism.

I have never been told NOT to be defensive...in fact, we expect and anticipate people to be defensive. In fact, we are specifically told that telling someone to "calm down" actually triggers an amplification response and they will become MORE defensive. I am not sure where you've heard or experienced this. Maybe I am misinterpreting your words.

Yet still people are taught self-defence and they think it is cool to be part of The Avengers and Defence Forces. They become armoured.

Agree.

Through my study of defence, i learned that I have to self-attack, like Samurai do hara-kiri cutting their belly. Attack my "evil-commanding soul".

I am not sure that most people have an "evil-commanding soul" per se. Granted, there are some truly evil people in this world... and there are others who are weak in character who will give in to evil... the latter, is probably the more common occurrence. Most people, in my experience, honestly seek out good, want love, and would prefer unity over divisiveness. Most people would rather be wrapped in loving arms and find love, safety, and comfort in it.

In that respect, I do believe that having an awareness of evil... in its many forms... and being strong enough to reject it... is a form of defense.

I am learning of those who have had near death experiences and from those who have the gift of being able to communicate with the souls of the departed. One thing that appears to be a consistent observation and message... and these written accounts go back to the earliest human writing... thousands of years... thousands of people. These accounts are the foundations of what the great religious texts... even the old pagan religions... use for their descriptions of Heaven, Paradise, Valhalla, etc. The message being that our souls in these afterlife dimensions project love and are most welcoming. If all of this has even a little bit of truth, then I think that perhaps our souls, within this physical realm... the "living world"... within a physical body... maybe a form of a test to see how much strength we do have to defend good and fight evil. I say this because the other consistent message is that once we arrive in Heaven, Paradise, and the like... there will be a life review. It is not clear who are passing judgement, per se, but regardless, there is a life review.

Karate is attacking your Ego. The only enemy is inside our-self. I don't have to Defend others nor attack others. Google Ego, through i recognize Freud.

(edit) So in Islam this self/ego is our enemy and must be controlled. The self/ego is animalistic, we are however Royal Loyal and Divine i pray.

I would be inclined to agree. As my own research into these topics has led me to believe that in order to experience "enlightenment", to communicate with our creator, even with the departed souls in the afterlife... one must be in a mental state that disconnects "the self", one's ego, and be pure of mind and heart. Your intentions good. Only then will the gates open and allow one to enter. I do think that the ego... the physical "self"... is an impedance to good in many ways. I don't know why... but appears to be a universal truth amongst those who walk those paths and have those gifts.

A part from that, there are those who are able to experience "ego loss" with psychedelic compounds... a practice that goes back thousands of years to our earliest ancestors. I have had some study of what some of these compounds do in the brain... it opens up areas of our brains that are shut down... allowing for full activation. What it also does, ironically... perhaps purposefully, is to block the fear signals from the amydalas (fear centers). I am thinking "the ego" has a strong connection to our fear centers... our bodily self-protective mechanisms. A high enough dose will cause "ego loss" and allow our consciousness to escape our physical bodies. It accounts for what many indigenous tribes call "spirit walks" where they can communicate with the other realms and seek guidance from a broader collective consciousness. At any rate, the ego does seem to be a hinderance to being pure of mind and heart. I am not sure if it THE source of evil, per se, or perhaps the gateway for evil to enter, but I do think it can be a strong influencer or amplifier of evil if one is not actively rejecting it.

 

[lunarious]

I didn't read everything you said, but in the beginning you said:

I have never been told NOT to be defensive

You might have been told to not be Defensive or whatever. But Humans naturally are Defensive and non-stable, and sick as animals.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

You might have been told to not be Defensive or whatever. But Humans naturally are Defensive and non-stable, and sick as animals.

Humans and animals are often defensive, especially of themselves... but also parts of themselves... their offspring. Part of the ego and fear responses. Perhaps "non-stable" in the sense that we can be warm, loving, caring, giving... and also cruel, insensitive, inconsiderate, and even violent depending upon the situation.

 

[Yeshuasdaughter]

Repent of your sins and put your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, as God in the Flesh, and you will be saved.

 

[lunarious]

You @Neonatal RRT are not better than everyone else whom isolate me and they are sucking.

Communicating in written form is mainly a Scholars domain, and supposed to be short and effective.

Imagine if Politicians would communicate in written form. They would write books instead of being breif? The Qur'an is in many way brief.

 

[lunarious]

Repent of your sins and put your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, as God in the Flesh, and you will be saved.

Are you talking to me?

Faithless people has tried to kill me, are are killing people etc.

I have no problem with Jews and Christians (edit) as it is written.

(edit) i've blocked you.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

Repent of your sins

That is a process. Admission of guilt. At the very least, it requires one to lessen one's grip on their own egos... then a life review of all the cruelty, hate, destructive behaviors you've said and done... even within the privacy of your own mind. Not an easy thing to do for those who have not achieved sufficient wisdom in their lives and/or are part of a group with a collective consciousness. This is highly individualized and can only be achieved as an individual.

and put your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, as God in the Flesh, and you will be saved.

Again, a process. As discussed above, in order to commune with our creator, to be "enlightened", there must be a mental state where there is "ego loss" and you are pure of heart and mind, with good intent. Only then will the gates open and you will be allowed to even communicate. That, I believe, is a relatively rare thing amongst the population. Most people WANT to be pure of heart and mind... but they don't know how to let go of "the self"... to disconnect their consciousness from their physical body in order to be able to do this. Some people do have the ability to tune into that frequency with ease, some people need to be skilled at meditation, some people will experience it with psychedelic compounds... and some people will never experience any of this. Some people's minds are too "busy" with a storm of thoughts and unable to clearly tune in and focus. Some people have such an overwhelmingly strong ego that they are unable to lessen their grip and/or let go of "the self". The latter will need some form of loving and trusting guide for them to drop those walls.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

You @Neonatal RRT are not better than everyone else whom isolate me and they are sucking.

Communicating in written form is mainly a Scholars domain, and supposed to be short and effective.

Imagine if Politicians would communicate in written form. They would write books instead of being breif? The Qur'an is in many way brief.

We were discussing ego... and you are on the defensive.

I am simply trying to agree and elaborate upon your statements... as we have very different backgrounds. I am trying to find some common ground here. I am trying to be kind... but for some reason, you're not taking it that way.

A reminder that you ARE on a forum with autistics... a group of people in which precise language is important... where elaboration is important to reduce misunderstandings. Also a group of people who can monologue on topics of interest.

If you want brief, concise communication... I am not sure I am capable of this because I would always find my communication lacking. It goes against my nature.

Politicians often do write rather extensive, thousand page bills that get passed into laws... nothing brief. I would argue that the great religious texts... including the Holy Qur'an... is quite an extensive document.

 

[lunarious]

We were discussing ego... and you are on the defensive.

I am on The Defensive because you talk too much. So this is a fight i will not pick up.

I admit I don't understand how people can digest so much info. Written and Spoken.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

I am on The Defensive because you talk too much. So this is a fight i will not pick up.

I admit I don't understand how people can digest so much info. Written and Spoken.

... and yet you clearly are skilled and have studied the Qur'an... a rather lengthy and comprehensive text. So, clearly you have the ability to focus and take in large amounts of information.