Nut guru

[Kayla55]

I really liked the other video of his on rancid nuts and how he speaks of planting the seed as it knows what to do.
What I learnt from him is why nuts are poisonous in way westerners don't understand. If you have nut allergy do watch his videos.

He has few amazing things to say from time to time, I think it's down to earth approach I love so much, not everyone would understand.

In this thread I thought it interesting to discuss our allergies and any views welcome.

 

[Kayla55]

This is me, what I like. Just realising glutton is more issue than meat, but if it's your allergy then it's your poison.

 

[Kayla55]

What Is Gluten—Why Is It Special?

 

[FilterFreq]

Didn't you say a little while ago that manganese got rid of your ASD symptoms? I'm curious as to how that went.

My issue with the state of alternative health right now is that it makes some extremely bold claims. I've heard of nuts being poisonous, triggering autoimmunity, and even the liver being responsible for nut allergies. Honestly, I can't keep up with the conflicting information but it feels a lot like paranormal research -- people are throwing a lot of really interesting claims around on the internet, and the validity is yet to be determined.

Of course, this doesn't mean they're all incorrect, it just kind of makes it a bit random. I know that people gravitate toward some really far-fetched theories when science can't yet explain what they're experiencing out of desperation, but honestly it's just clinging to a lot of false hope with absolutely no substantial evidence for the most part.

Also, if eggs are bad, nuts are bad, wheat is bad, meat is bad, etc... what are we supposed to eat for protein? If I listened to all of the alternative health claims I might actually starve!

 

[Raggamuffin]

His books are worth a read. Especially the Inner Engineering book.

I personally don't pursue his dietary recommendations. I know a lot of yoga dietary stuff can be quite restrictive.

Ed

 

[Neri]

Meat is NOT bad, look up "carnivore diet". Eggs are brilliant food. Nuts and seeds are riddled with plant toxins. They are the babies of plants. Plants can't defend themselves any other way other than producing toxins, and if all seeds, including nuts are plant babies, it makes sense that they are loaded up with toxins to save them from annilalation.

 

[Outdated]

There's a wonderful poem by Tim Minchin that addresses this topic called Storm. I won't link it here because he gets a little bit carried away but here's a couple of sections from it I loved:

And try as I like
A small crack appears
In my diplomacy dyke.
"By definition," I begin
"Alternative Medicine," I continue
"Has either not been proved to work
Or been proved not to work
Do you know what they call alternative medicine
That's been proved to work?
Medicine."

---

Water has memory!
And whilst its memory of a long lost drop of onion juice seems infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it's had in it!

 

[Jonn]

@Kayla55​

I'm allergic to nutz.
They make me go nutz when they create hives.
Took me ages to work that out.

 

[Jonn]

Eggs are brilliant food.

They are called a "Super Food".
I eat lots.

Nuts and seeds are riddled with plant toxins.

Spoiler

Thankfully, peach nutz only have cyanide.

 

[DrBadStrings]

Meat is NOT bad, look up "carnivore diet". Eggs are brilliant food. Nuts and seeds are riddled with plant toxins. They are the babies of plants. Plants can't defend themselves any other way other than producing toxins, and if all seeds, including nuts are plant babies, it makes sense that they are loaded up with toxins to save them from annilalation.

I'm sorry but I have to step in here for a moment as it is driving me nuts, no pun intended seeing the way the word toxin is being used. To be clear, the poison is in the dose not the substance. Some things in small doses are good for us where as in large quantities are poisonous, and likewise without we also run into issues. Selenium being one, that is found in nuts, too much and we get birth deformities and cognitive impairment, but as a micronutrient in our diet we need it for dna production and protection from free radicals. So the substance itself isn't a toxin in and of itself, but it becomes toxic at certain doses.

My background is in sciences with an Environmental Technology diploma, and when I see folks talking about things "loaded with toxins" it irritates me, because typically it means they really don't know what they are talking about.

And I'm not saying this is the case for you Neri. But phrasing matters and anyone with a scientific background, especially that is in environmental sciences, won't take someone causally throwing about the words toxin or toxic seriously. How that word get's used is a red flag of sorts. I can still vividly hear my ecotoxicolgy professor going on about how misused the word was.

 

[Outdated]

How common are nut allergies?​

Australia has a high rate of peanut allergies. At one year of age, about 3 in 100 children are allergic to peanuts.

By comparison, tree nut allergies are much rarer. About 1 in 500 children have a reaction to tree nuts at 5 years of age.

About 1 in 10 children will grow out of their tree nut allergy.

Nut allergies

 

[Kayla55]

Well now I know where pesticides originally come from, and interesting about cyanide and low and behold the word Arsen has its roots in this too. Some poisons digested in small doses allow for immunity but arsenic is apparently not one of these so I'm ultra confused about par boiling brown rice even if we eat it no more than twice a week.

Manganese and vit b and various combination has got rid of my arthritis which was problem in last 2 years, but alteimers is still there.

My being vegetarian is due to affliction with what I saw at factory farm on my interview to write computer systems. But I know there are good vitamins in meat and so my boys eat free range chicken. It's tricky trying to get the vitamins we are deficient in due to rice example. I will sit and eat peanut shells, I will instinctively eat fish skins and mostly people know I'm impossible with food.
Nuts being expensive I eat mostly legumes, but tried them lately and it's being trial and error.
I simply can't eat eggs and having tried had bad dose of diahrea and it's back to can't due to knowing they injecting into eggs before hatching, and that germs carry on eggs and that in laboratories grow pathogens on eggs to develop vaccines. But thought of eating embryo is the worst and whole of the problem. Despite its unfertilized, um, that's not natural that's because farming so no, I won't eat veal.

 

[Neri]

I'm sorry but I have to step in here for a moment as it is driving me nuts, no pun intended seeing the way the word toxin is being used. To be clear, the poison is in the dose not the substance. Some things in small doses are good for us where as in large quantities are poisonous, and likewise without we also run into issues. Selenium being one, that is found in nuts, too much and we get birth deformities and cognitive impairment, but as a micronutrient in our diet we need it for dna production and protection from free radicals. So the substance itself isn't a toxin in and of itself, but it becomes toxic at certain doses.

My background is in sciences with an Environmental Technology diploma, and when I see folks talking about things "loaded with toxins" it irritates me, because typically it means they really don't know what they are talking about.

And I'm not saying this is the case for you Neri. But phrasing matters and anyone with a scientific background, especially that is in environmental sciences, won't take someone causally throwing about the words toxin or toxic seriously. How that word get's used is a red flag of sorts. I can still vividly hear my ecotoxicolgy professor going on about how misused the word was.

Noted. It was a hyperbolic-ly phrased and reactive post. I was irritated about the assumption that "meat is bad" and I took it out on the poor nuts. Thanks for weighing in with some actual science.

 

[Kayla55]

Arsenic is sure death but dependant on dose

People long ago recognized that depending on the dose, arsenic could either treat an illness or be used as a poison to cause death. Its medicinal use to treat syphilis and amebic dysentery ended with the introduction of penicillin and other antibiotics in the twentieth century. Arsenic-based compounds are currently used to treat some forms of cancer. As a poison, arsenic trioxide (As2O3) has several desirable qualities: it looks like sugar and is tasteless, and only a fraction of a gram can kill an adult.

 

[DrBadStrings]

Noted. It was a hyperbolic-ly phrased and reactive post. I was irritated about the assumption that "meat is bad" and I took it out on the poor nuts. Thanks for weighing in with some actual science.

It's all good. I'm just glad you didn't take what I wrote the wrong way. I was worried you might think I was calling you out when that was not my intent at all.

 

[DrBadStrings]

Arsenic is sure death but dependant on dose

People long ago recognized that depending on the dose, arsenic could either treat an illness or be used as a poison to cause death. Its medicinal use to treat syphilis and amebic dysentery ended with the introduction of penicillin and other antibiotics in the twentieth century. Arsenic-based compounds are currently used to treat some forms of cancer. As a poison, arsenic trioxide (As2O3) has several desirable qualities: it looks like sugar and is tasteless, and only a fraction of a gram can kill an adult.

The dose at which it becomes toxic is low that is true. But we still need a certain amount of it as a micronutrient. Mind you that level is so low that nobody would ever have to supplement. But arsenic does play a role in the metabolism of certain amino acids in the body. The substance is not the poison, the dose is.

 

[Kayla55]

Noted. It was a hyperbolic-ly phrased and reactive post. I was irritated about the assumption that "meat is bad" and I took it out on the poor nuts. Thanks for weighing in with some actual science.

Red meat is assumed to not be healthy, but my finding is causes constipation, but small doses fixes a balance. Chicken known to be more digestible for kiddos but lately salmonella and ecoli is bad.
I do crave something in meat and aside from amino acids, well not my field to proove this. The fisherman sell me fresh fish from ocean, but I don't allow them to be killed on property, I'm sensitive. The mussels were not vegan, but I found something to eat and the benefits were amazing, but not kosher.
Mr. Guru is vegan, and I like his message as modern meat is problem. Look I've seeing enough sick chickens to state that if swine become resistant to penicillin we going to really have a problem. Beef just ecoli problem but under severe conditions it can kill you.

 

[Kayla55]

Another benefit of meat, protein. And have to eat lot legumes, and this is possibly contributing to my anaemia

 

[Kayla55]

My experience:
I didn't know how toxic cashews were, so the ones sold at Indian shop were raw and they tasted kind of soappy. So I soaked them for few hours but they were mushy (couldn't handle texture) so after that I roasted them with salt. But after eating quite a few it started tasting soapy again, kind of bitter. They were rancid.

Totally destroyed my Candida detox, and can't explain what it did to my stomach. So I've being eating a bit of fish..... Have to eat something, and I was hoping to gain weight and my protein intake is just too limited. Maybe I just didn't get balance for vegetarian diet right (as I do eat some cheeses) or maybe my digestive and health is so buggered and as celiac with ASD I am not surving vegetarian diet.
Perhaps there are benefits to meat as in I'm ingesting too many chemicals.

 

[Jonn]

But phrasing matters and anyone with a scientific background, especially that is in environmental sciences, won't take someone causally throwing about the words toxin or toxic seriously.

I have an allergic reaction to most, maybe all nutz.
As a layman, I would call nutz "toxic" for me.

BTW,
I do take in your qualifier referring to degrees of consumption.

I think the problem here is, once again, context.
1. A general/layman discussion...
2. A professional/scientific one...
This clash/mixing is common in many situations, causing confusion.

These ain't fighting woids, pardner.
I am simply being an annoying pedantic aspie.