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Rodafina

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Will it always be a cycle of up and then down, down, down so low? Will it always be falling and climbing back up? I am seeking a plateau to rest on, a stable place for my mind to call home. I cannot find it.

Burnt out, confused, and lost. I cannot see my way anymore. Every path is scary and full of danger.
 
If you were literally in a place where you couldn't see which way to go,
what would be the reasonable thing to do?
 
This...is very relatable. I'm sorry to hear you're feeling this and sorry this isn't much I can say other than I'm here if you ever need to vent about anything. You're a wonderful person and I'm sure everyone else here agrees that you deserve to feel much better than this.
 
Perhaps a peaceful river, a gentle breeze in the trees. Floating on a blow up mattress and being gently rocked to sleep by the motion of the water.
 
I wish I could find that stable plateau too. I'm lucky at the moment, my mood seems to be taking a bit of a swing upward. It's not that unusual this time of year, though it's been taking a while.

I hope it stays within manageable parameters. In recent years when my mood has swung upwards, I have rapidly exhausted myself and then crashed, hard.

A few years ago, I did seem to find that plateau though. It was great. But that was due to suitable medication more than anything else.

Maybe I'm starting to get back to my old self. It's been a while since this has happened to the point where I feel quite good and (cautiously) enthusiastic. But it's difficult because I'm never sure how long it will last.

I hope you will find that plateau, where everything feels pretty much effortless and wonderful. It's a small thing that people don't often appreciate when it comes so easily to them.
 
This won't help much...but I've sort of developed this alternate ego, a separate self that I guess can be called the "home" or "plateau" you speak of. Here I observe myself as just another human being going through the mountains and valleys of life in the same way as I observe other people in the world.

In that I find a "somewhat peace" knowing that I'm not the only one in the valley, that you can only appreciate the highs because of the lows. And in that way of thinking there's stability because I'm not looking at each event separately but the whole picture of which sometimes I'm not even a part of. And even that one person's valleys may be another person's mountains and vice versa.
 
Will it always be a cycle of up and then down, down, down so low? Will it always be falling and climbing back up? I am seeking a plateau to rest on, a stable place for my mind to call home. I cannot find it.

Burnt out, confused, and lost. I cannot see my way anymore. Every path is scary and full of danger.
I am sorry @Rodafina you are going through those ups and downs. Each person can be different there and their ups and downs last shorter or longer. The good news in many cases any downs are short lived, and some can get out of the up and down states better than others.

In my case I know the exact causes of any downs, and I know precisely what to do to break out of it and I may be the rarer type that can better that entirely on my own. I rarely experience highs, so I cannot comment on that.

There is not just one way to break out of depression. The best way to do it could depend on the known cause and your desires, needs and capabilities to tackle that..Others may have tips that worked for them. Regardless, I hope you feel better soon and get to that more level comfortable state.

I wanted to thank you though for saying you wanted he!p because I am leaning against giving any advice otherwise from now on unless person's specifically say they want such. I will assume they just want support then, which others do better than I. That will however possibly just be temporary fixes to their situation, and they will have more cycles of highs and lows.

So, if any member wants advice or help other than support, please state so like Rodafina, or if they do not want advice state so. You will get your more targeted help then, support or advice, whichever we feel the other wants the more of by what they said. We all have different needs there.

Feel free to write privately too if you need more specific answers to figure this out. I would be glad to assist.
 
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Am I right in thinking you are aware of the Wim Hof breathing method @Rodafina ? I think we talked to @Raggamuffin about it in another thread? Or maybe I'm misremembering?

I have found that doing the Wim Hof breathing can help me get through some tough times if you can do it fairly often.

It's not quite a plateau, but it can certainly help keep things on an even keel, mentally and emotionally. If you have some other things that help you, maybe in combination you can reach some sort of plateau that's right for you.

Think of it like emotional energy blades, and the more you have, the more you can keep the dark stuff at bay :-)
 
Im sorry you are feeling like that and wish your energy to be refilled soon.

When we step out of our confort zones, we advance, but we also pay a price.

Patience, the storm will pass. Resist.
 
Hey Rodafina, sorry to hear this. You're always very much a help to everyone else on here.
Here is something that might help. We don't really ever hit equilibrium, but we can end up still keeping a safe and mostly happy balance.

I saw you'd posted a thread on clocks: a pendulum clock has interval (time between ticks) and amplitude (distance pendulum actually swings.) A good clock is designed to keep a steady interval without a ton of amplitude: look at a Vienna regulator working off a weight-driven movement for a week without needing winding. Slow, steady swings from one side to the other that don't cause a bunch of damage to the clock or waste a bunch of energy are what it needs.

We are designed for a little bit of up and a little bit of down. This is all right. It's okay, and it's normal. Yes, it hurts. Life is the journey of a body and a soul traveling together and every journey is going to be very hard at times, very pleasant at others, until the day these two traveling companions finally do end up having to part ways. When you do get to a healthier spot even being a little bit sad will be more like a somewhat pleasing melancholy, and a temporary one at that.

The low points in life are sad but a radical acceptance of this would be a help. I would suggest that I was able to find a great deal of good through just deciding to trust in God but I do not know if you are religious or not. Low points are a good point to treat yourself for depression though. I had to take depression pills for something and that helped a lot.
 
thank you all. very very much. i read every word.

i need to go find a star. i’ll be back soon. i will take your words and all the little hearts with me because they are very powerful.
 
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measured breathing is always helpful for me. i also pray while doing it, but if you're not religious, you dont have to.

breathe in through your nose while counting slowly to four. by four you should be thinking "i'm so full of air, i cant breathe in anymore!" then breathe out slowly through your mouth for four counts. exhale all the air you just breathed in.

repeat this several times.

i do this while walking, working, driving, etc. i like to use any time i can find that doesnt require my full attention for prayer.
 
For what it's worth, I sympathize. At least know you arent alone in going through this. There are others on the same path with you, even if they arent always visible.

I dont know what else to say here at the moment. But feel free to message me if you could use someone to talk to.
 
Pitfalls and pinnacles tend to come in groups with mesas in between. I was a bit toasted in terms of burnout a little while ago. Things have stabilized a bit, but I also got a few surprises I was not expecting from friends and family that certainly didn't hurt.

One of @VictorR s more recent posts in his journal thread also noted the groupings.

And sometimes you need to do a little self-care, when in the course of helping others you put yourself on the back burner.
 
Pitfalls and pinnacles tend to come in groups with mesas in between. I was a bit toasted in terms of burnout a little while ago. Things have stabilized a bit, but I also got a few surprises I was not expecting from friends and family that certainly didn't hurt.

One of @VictorR s more recent posts in his journal thread also noted the groupings.

And sometimes you need to do a little self-care, when in the course of helping others you put yourself on the back burner.

I agree about that, with regards to burnout. I did not talk about that issue as admittedly I usually work myself through that silently too. But I did tell one here about six weeks ago, and even told a few since, I had reached my limits with trying to care too much, as something was missing that I needed more of, or present that I needed to back away from.

I think the untold story here are the ones that post a lot, and give too much for others, or push too far forward, masking their own pain or desires mostly. I am not one of those posters in terms of quantity, so it amazes me those who can do that.When I post I do give usually many efforts though.. But, there is a price to pay when many here care too much or have high expectations for ourselves, and/or when we put ourselves second.

The focus usually is on the outwardly depressed, anxious and more troubled ones in the moment, or the chronic concerning signs and symptoms cases, and less on the others trying to support or assist them or who have their own hidden issues or situations to deal with. The others assume we can handle everything. Yes we may be strong on the surface, be good at problem solving, or show traits that may seem like no help is needed, but we can reach our limits or stray too far into doing something more because of internal pressure or strong empathy too.

So what happens if we are so selfless and we go past the reasonable levels of taking care of ourselves, and we feel either others expect us to be perfect machines, and able to balance so many things without complaint, or if we put pressure on ourselves to be better or do more? Sometimes we take on too much, feel lots of stress or sadness mounting, or feel regretful for the outcomes where we did not meet our expectations, so we may back away in some way as we feel so unmotivated, alone, stressed, confused or ashamed unlike before.

Like I said before somewhere, I hope others in life do not take certain things for granted. Just as the outwardly depressed or really stressed or anxious can drop off the forum from time to time or for long duration, even if given support or advice, obviously so can the others who focus on supporting and assisting need a break, assistance or something more needed for them,when less support or advice is given them. They may never ask, but when they see they cannot do anymore,or at that time, they may back away at least temporarily because of that pressure or face things head on which can make matters worse..

So, the moral of the story maybe is, be just as kind, supportive and attentive to not just those outwardly suffering or requesting such, but the supportive and assisting ones too, as we all our suffering in some ways, on the surface or hidden, or have unmet needs. These persons rarely ask for anything, as it is trained in them to give and not receive, or as they learned to have to do things alone. So, consider reaching out to the outwardly content or happy ones too and asking how they are really doing from time to time. You might be surprised by the answer, that they had some troubling situation they could not solve themselves..
 
Life is full of ups and downs. For me, the more i immense myself in my interests and spend time by myself the better i feel, and free to be myself. I hope you can also create a safe space in your mind, away from the world and its problems.
 

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