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poor dating options

paloftoon

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I matched with a guy Nov 14 and he only initiated the very first hi. Ever since, more excuses have come up for a minimal conversation. Guy is supposedly doing work, school, and had to take care of mom slightly. He said he’d have more time “after holidays.” School has definitely come to break for his semester now. But I no longer want to just chat bc it has been too long and I only want vid chat or meet in-person w this guy bc otherwise it isn’t worth continuing to try on my end.
Guy Made a bit of effort to describe his situation earlier. But then seems to have a bit of time posting some social media type stuff. I don’t mind the popularity except I want to be included enough in this person’s space.

He signed on yesterday and didn't respond to my message 2-3 weeks ago nor 2-4 days ago either.
So, I blocked him on all social media I could.

My "options" have been similar to this lately.
I'm hurting inside.
 
I agree that this doesn't sound promising, he should have arranged a F2F by this point. Sorry it didn't work out for you. Wishing you better luck with the next one.
 
If it's not an enthusiastic "yes" then it's a no.

I do understand that people are busy, especially around the holidays. But if he's that busy he would not be on a dating site.

Those excuses are a soft no. He just doesn't want to hurt your feelings.
 
There is a lot of flakey people on the dating apps. I feel like there is a new O.L.D. (On Line Dating) culture slowly being established that has different “rules” and operational characteristics.
In some ways it’s like learning a new language or set of behavioral customs. Not everyone practices these OLD behaviors, but the flakes, low effort messages, and matches purely for an ego boost are so much more common now.

With each person being different, it’s a wild guess scenario at times. Some take a long time to respond, some are quick, many will never progress beyond basic messages and actually meet up in person.

I’m sorry you seem to have encountered a flake. It can be depressing or disheartening at times. I am evolving the attitude that lots of these flakey people disqualify themselves early and this is a small blessing, in a way, to avoid the hassle of someone that isn’t that serious about meeting for real.

I wish you luck with your search.
 
Be of good cheer you've picked up on this dodgy reaction. He's quite simply not worth your while and obviously doesn't deserve you! Find someone who does and don't let the useless wastes of space get you down, you wouldn't want them once you knew them I bet!

Also, males of the species can be selfish self-centred lumps who'll keep one person hanging on while they wait to see which others pan out.

@Masked Man's comment: "If it's not an enthusiastic "yes" then it's a no." is spot on!
 
Be of good cheer you've picked up on this dodgy reaction. He's quite simply not worth your while and obviously doesn't deserve you! Find someone who does and don't let the useless wastes of space get you down, you wouldn't want them once you knew them I bet!

Also, males of the species can be selfish self-centred lumps who'll keep one person hanging on while they wait to see which others pan out.

@Masked Man's comment: "If it's not an enthusiastic "yes" then it's a no." is spot on!

Disagree @Boogs. I like the support you are giving to the op, but in my opinion guys are usually less selfish for dating. Far more men are willing to at least consider all types of women, whereas women are usually far more pickier for guys. So, if men are selfish then what does that make women, who reject guys all the time who do not fit much of their many needs or higher expectations, often not even giving them any chance but a cold shoulder or some rude, direct rejection?

There are far more disabled and average guys alone than disabled and average women, and far more guys without good jobs or character flaws alone than women. Stereotypes are many guys mainly want physical, but many women want confidence, romance, protection, humor, a man with a good job/money, etc. And if she looks great, often she wants a guy to look additionally great as well.

So, although I am sorry the op has had difficulties, guys who are in no hurry to move to higher or quicker levels should be respected for taking their time to make sure things are a fit. At least many of those guys that are somewhat selective may not be openly critical or coldly rejecting her on the spot. Yeah, a bit childish they could be for not giving reasons for the avoidance, or for some ghosting and white lies, but at least they are not leading others on and taking advantage of others, if this is indeed the case.

Do I think the op deserves another instead who truly appreciates her and who will make the time for her, and who can communicate better so as to see if things can work out, or so as to learn from the situation better? Yes, as she seems like a well deserving person for a relationship to me, and I do agree if the op does not like time wasted playing any games, that is her right too. I just think both genders can go at their own pace and if things do not work out, that was meant to be, as it requires both to do what they feel is right for them. I mean, if women can want to often take things slow or be hesitant or play hard to get, so should guys be able to do the same or be more selective. Time is often too valuable to waste, yes, but time is sometimes needed to not make bigger mistakes. You have to find the right balance.
 
Coincidentally I got stood up and unmatched today with no explanation after several lengthy great conversations. This year has been rough for dating apps, although around the time I was flaked on today, I matched with a fellow autistic person and I am excited about that so far. I just keep believing at positive outcome is around the corner any day now.
 
There is a lot of flakey people on the dating apps. I feel like there is a new O.L.D. (On Line Dating) culture slowly being established that has different “rules” and operational characteristics.
In some ways it’s like learning a new language or set of behavioral customs. Not everyone practices these OLD behaviors, but the flakes, low effort messages, and matches purely for an ego boost are so much more common now.

Kind of makes sense -- we're evolving out of spontaneity and into a controlled environment so that everyone feels safe. Unfortunately this can kind of affect the natural flow humans are used to, but on the other hand, we have a lot of new awareness and social constructs to contend with which dictate the need for a said 'safe' environment.

OP: I definitely agree with @Masked Man on this one, too; if there's no excitement or fire there, you might be better off finding someone who's all in. Starting off on a low note like that seems a bit foreshadowing.
 
There is a lot of flakey people on the dating apps.
I looked at some popular dating apps out of curiosity and noticed many are gamified now. They seem to be designed to tickle your pleasure centers and keep you swiping. Very superficial feeling. The common design elements reminded me of how the new digital slot machines work in terms of keeping users engaged. I was left with the feeling that the app owners would like you to stay single and hooked on the app for a long time. Oh, and if you pay for extra features you'll increase your chances of a good match (not).

Ugh.
 
Disagree @Boogs. I like the support you are giving to the op, but in my opinion guys are usually less selfish for dating. Far more men are willing to at least consider all types of women, whereas women are usually far more pickier for guys.
But..., that's your perception as a (presumed) male? And I think the apps tend to exacerbate the worst behaviours and encourage a lack of responsibility as to how people treat each other. Prospective partners are commodified, and those seeking them are distorted because of that, they end up 'shopping' for a partner or a date and thus treating them like items on a shelf to be disparaged or bought.

I direct my ire at men in this context because I do see a lot of atrocious behaviour in them and can better understand/perceive it from a male perspective, and in addition its a male behaving like that in this case.
I wasn't implying (some) women are not equally badly behaved in their own fashion.

Also, to try to rationalise women's behaviour in the same way would become wrapped in my own psychological involvement with emotionally triggering romantic thoughts of relationships unavailable to me. My vision would be even more distorted and hence inaccurate when the OP was not even looking at that.
There are far more disabled and average guys alone than disabled and average women, and far more guys without good jobs or character flaws alone than women.
Hmmm, while I can understand the message, I 'd have to ask how you know this? If from personal experience I'd question the validity when applied generically to all. If it's from research I'd be interested to know what.
Not disputing it, but wonder how that's known, seems to be a highly subjective view (using the phrase "good character" seems rather a poor definition?)
And lets not forget that it's believed now that many high-functioning ASD women hide their condition better than men, making this sort of gender related research difficult.
... guys who are in no hurry to move to higher or quicker levels should be respected for taking their time to make sure things are a fit.
Completely agree, but how do you determine that's the cause, and that the guy (or woman) is not stringing them along? If in this case the guy had any interest it wouldn't be hard to indicate a 'laid-back' interest instead of completely blanking someone? Seems rather rude to me, but I'm not experienced with this on-line dating game, so maybe it's just me and it's normal to treat people like that? if it is I'm happy to avoid it!

Addendum:
To put in context - I believe that in general humans respect resources in short supply. Where they are, they are given a value commensurate with their rarity and importance, and this applies to finding partners as much as buying commercial products. When something, anything, becomes too freely available humans tend to treat that resource with less respect. I believe this is one of the negative factors in a whole range of social media. Sometimes the resources are people, and I think this is happening more and more - make it too easy to connect with others and people will tend to value those people less as they are more replaceable and it makes it easier to hate people for biased and discriminatory reasons, and it's not a good thing and is one of the factors creating a less humanitarian global community and more chaotic world.
 
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He signed on yesterday and didn't respond to my message 2-3 weeks ago nor 2-4 days ago either.
So, I blocked him on all social media I could.
Don't bother with him. It was a good decision to block. Even if he did mean to respond eventually and did treat you seriously, this is what the contact with him is going to look like. Responding once a month perhaps, meeting every few months. Is it what you're looking for? I gather that no.
 
I'd agree; and first impressions do matter. If he's there to make new friends and possible partners, then he's going to treat those whom he cares about as well as possible to avoid burning bridges, so if he shows little positive towards you now, what sort of partner would he make?
And if he's like this normally with most people, then again I'd ask, what sort of partner would he make?

I'd suspect that whether deliberate or not, if someone exhibits triggering behaviour there's a very good chance this won't disappear. Even if you both engaged, and you mentioned this as being negative for you to experience, if he was able to not do this behaviour in the first place but hadn't then he's either remarkably insensitive (which may not bode well as a prospective partner) or he doesn't care and if he changes it'll likely be temporary.
 

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