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Relationship direction

savi83

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Hi everybody,

Had a bit of a sit down chat with my girlfriend of eight years.

She gave me a speech/ultimatum about having the same goals; getting a house, marriage and children within the next few years.

I think it would be great to have the house, get married and have the 2.4 children, etc. but in not sure know how to progress a relationship or whether I could handle it.

I'm not a big fan of change, I'm happy with things as they are or am I being cruel??
 
well, im single, but i know this: if your girlfriend is at all decent, she will help you through the changes, and how exactly to progress a relationship. so, you don't have to worry about the negative effects of changing. and, you can still do all that slowly, over a period of years. it should be easy to figure it all out with her.
 
Hi everybody,

Had a bit of a sit down chat with my girlfriend of eight years.

She gave me a speech/ultimatum about having the same goals; getting a house, marriage and children within the next few years.

I think it would be great to have the house, get married and have the 2.4 children, etc. but in not sure know how to progress a relationship or whether I could handle it.

I'm not a big fan of change, I'm happy with things as they are or am I being cruel??

You didn't mention your ages, but eight years is a long time to be dating. She may be worried about her biological clock. If she wants children, that is a big concern for a woman.

If you truly love her and she loves you, you'll be able to make it through the changes if she is a supportive person. Maybe just start slow by getting married first and just living in the same place doing the same things for a while. When you're comfortable with that, perhaps you can buy a house, move in and start adjusting to those changes.

The biggest change of all will come when you have children. I don't have children myself, because I didn't think I could handle that. I'm thankful everyday I chose wisely. However, if you both want children, you'll find a way to make that work too. Just be prepared that things will change drastically. Ask anyone with kids, they'll tell you.

We on the spectrum do get stuck in our comfort zones, so I don't think it's a matter of you being cruel. Nobody wants to push the envelope when things seem to be going fine as they are. For growth, though, one must forge ahead and break new ground, and it sounds like your girlfriend has put her foot down on this one.

First make sure that it's something you really want to do, and then proceed with caution.

Good luck!
 
My main concern is that she wants us to get a house and have a child within the next two to three years.

I don't adapt well to change and to me this is a lot of big changes in a short period of time.

I don't know how or if I'll be able to handle it.

I've never been tested for AS it's just something that has been raised by my teachers/lectures growing up so I've not been properly assessed leaving it a bit of a grey area.
 
Eight years is a long time. Long enough perhaps to assume that you have what it takes to make marriage work.

As someone who perceives themselves to be on the spectrum, you do have a valid point about being concerned over such a change. But for what it's worth, I'm guessing you may have what it takes to make it all work. Not that it will be easy though...but then you already know that. Best wishes.
 
My main concern is that she wants us to get a house and have a child within the next two to three years.

I don't adapt well to change and to me this is a lot of big changes in a short period of time.

I don't know how or if I'll be able to handle it.

I've never been tested for AS it's just something that has been raised by my teachers/lectures growing up so I've not been properly assessed leaving it a bit of a grey area.

Can you get her to compromise on a five year plan? Maybe get married within the next year and set a goal to buy a house two years later. Save up money for that, and for having a child, during that time. Get the house, and then start planning for the child. Remember, it will be 9 months before she actually gives birth once pregnant.
 
Hi everybody,

Had a bit of a sit down chat with my girlfriend of eight years.

She gave me a speech/ultimatum about having the same goals; getting a house, marriage and children within the next few years.

I think it would be great to have the house, get married and have the 2.4 children, etc. but in not sure know how to progress a relationship or whether I could handle it.

I'm not a big fan of change, I'm happy with things as they are or am I being cruel??
8 years is a long time to be in a relationship, you're practically married already so at the very least I'd say do that since it would mean little change. But that depends on what you mean by getting a house. Do you live together currently and she wants to either move from an apartment to a house or live in a house that belongs to one of you or your family and wants to get a house that is both of yours from the start? Or do you live on your own?

Like I said 8 years is a long time. At this point you should be living together and starting a family depending on your ages. You already said you like the idea so why not make that step. You said you don't know how to progress it but your girlfriend already brought it up so why not just say yes or find a romantic time to propose?

As for changes, those things - especially having children - are a big change for everyone involved. Both of you are going to feel lost and anxious if that happens so you won't be alone, and she should know you well enough by now to sense if you need the extra help getting through things. Just be sure to support her too. Every expecting parent worries and doesn't know how it'll affect their lives but every parent also says afterwards that it's the best feeling in the world.

If this really is an ultimatum of do this or lose her what would you rather do?
 
Hi everybody,

Had a bit of a sit down chat with my girlfriend of eight years.

She gave me a speech/ultimatum about having the same goals; getting a house, marriage and children within the next few years.

I think it would be great to have the house, get married and have the 2.4 children, etc. but in not sure know how to progress a relationship or whether I could handle it.

I'm not a big fan of change, I'm happy with things as they are or am I being cruel??

I hear you on your concern but please let me assure you that change is a good thing! Change over time towards a better "you" is the very definition of growth. If you are not growing you are stagnant, stuck and you aren't getting any better. We all have room for growth and improvement. If your goal in life doesn't require you to change then it's not a real goal, it's an excuse. Consider your partner with my words: How would you feel if you wanted things like a house and children but your partner didn't seem like they wanted to make the effort? It would make you feel like you were in a dead-end relationship. Don't be that dead-end!

You can be happy the way things are now and still accept change. A kid can enjoy little league baseball while he's that age but if he doesn't switch to high school or professional when he grows up because he loves little league so much then he's going to really be out of place with stunted values and behaviors, never realizing his full potential. We must all let go of both the joys and the pains of yesterday so that we may make room for tomorrow.

Be happy, yes, but don't be stagnant. Set goals. Your girlfriend is not wrong to want a future. You can't stay with parents forever, you can't continue to pay overpriced rent on an apartment forever, you can't spend the rest of your life acting the same as you are today.

When you say you aren't sure how to progress a relationship, well a house is a good first step. I have spent a significant amount of time typing this up for you so I'd appreciate it if you took this advice very seriously. The following are steps you need to take both independently and with your partner. These are non-negotiable steps.

1: Know your credit score, credit history and debt/income ratio.
2: If you haven't already, start a savings account and actually use it.
3: Review your pay history over the past 3-6 years and see if you are going anywhere financially.
4: Review the past 6 months of your spendings and make a chart that shows you where your money is going.
5: Create and review your resume and compare to others to see if you are in a good place for your age.
6: Start comparing land values and prices and home owning rules.
7: Start comparing house values and prices.
8: Discuss with your girlfriend what kind of space you will want. Understand that space will be directly proportionate to the money you can expect to spend.
9: Compare prices of building to buying because you may find small goals to be attainable by building small.
10: Discuss schooling methods for future children as well as community benifits.
11: Discuss and make goals for a secure income as well as a future savings. You must be able to bounce back quickly from any lost income.
12: Look at the condition of your car and ask yourself if you've been responsible with such an asset (changing oil, checking injectors, changing spark plugs, keeping clean, rotating tires, replacing filters etc.) or if you've been immature just putting gas in it and occasionally taking it in for a cheap check up hoping the service is honest. Is your car a mess? Is it falling apart? Your car is a testament to your own personal maturity and responsibility and will say a lot about your being able to take care of a house.
13: If step 12 is disappointing, start by improving that and don't go further until it's better.
14: Look around your living quarters, are you a responsible adult or do you need a maid/mother?
15: If step 14 doesn't show you to be an adult, fix it.
16: Are your bills up to date? If not, look at step 4 and see what games or DVDs or social outings you should have forgone until bills were paid. Change these habits.
17: Do you know how to do anything useful like building, plumbing, wiring, insulating, cabinetry, sewing, finishing, painting etc.? If you can, find out how to do things yourself to save money. If you can't, consider looking into it because it can save you money on a house.
18: Look to compromise your childhood possessions. Do you have a bunch of toys or collector's items that serve no purpose other than bragging rights at the comic store? Consider their importance in relation to having to pay for every square foot you will need to store them.
19: Look at tiny homes. Some come pre-built, some come partially built, some are projects. You are better off with a newer house that can be built on than buying a fixer-upper that is rotten under the floors and behind the paint. No matter what a real estate agent will tell you, fixing a house that you buy for cheap is not a good investment compared to doing the same work to build a new house.
20: Owning a home is a responsibility and it will be your job to keep it up. Prepare yourself for that. If it scares you, man the hell up because when winter comes, if you didn't cover your plumbing no one is going to pity you for busted pipes. You are never too young or too old to learn to do things without being told by someone older. If any of the 19 steps rub you as too much effort, that's probably where you need to focus the most.

I really don't care how old you are because ALL of these are "the sooner the better" type steps so there's really no reason why you can't consider them. If you think this is too much for you to handle, find the support you need because this is adulthood and there's no hiding from it. The longer you put it off, the more you will lose starting with your girlfriend.

If you need support, a bunch of us on this forum will cheer you on and give advice. You can do this! It's hard and scary for sure but you will come out on the other end a man. There is no simpler ambition in life than to grow up and improve!
 

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