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Road Racing

Keith

Keith

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Anyone here follow road racing? Dad's followed road racing since he was in high school (mid sixties) since he's lived in the San Francisco Bay Area most of his life. He raised me on road racing as opposed to NASCAR.

We follow:

Tudor Championship
Formula One
IndyCar Series (when it's on a road or street circuit)
Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge
Pirelli World Challenge

We'd follow Trans Am if it had a TV contract.

We also go to local classic car racing events at our local road course.
 
Keith said:
Anyone here follow road racing? Dad's followed road racing since he was in high school (mid sixties) since he's lived in the San Francisco Bay Area most of his life. He raised me on road racing as opposed to NASCAR.

We follow:

Tudor Championship
Formula One
IndyCar Series (when it's on a road or street circuit)
Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge
Pirelli World Challenge

We'd follow Trans Am if it had a TV contract.

We also go to local classic car racing events at our local road course.
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I follow NHRA dragracing and became an active participant in it.It goes back to my street racing roots and became the motorsport of choice as I already had the equipment needed to do it and it was legal to do so at the track.
To me road racing most resembles street racing and has many variables to overcome as opposed to roundy-rounders going fast and turning left.
I basically fought to go see Senna the right to win when it came out and found it fascinating to see how far the man pushed to win.
I was Bondurant schooled for road racing at 18,but the costs prohibited me from continuing it as a career choice. At the time,I was being groomed to run SCCA GT4 class in a Datsun B210 that I was active on as a pit crew member. The car owner had some factory support,but most of it was out of pocket to him. We were able to squeeze out 175 horsepower@11,500 RPM from the tiny 1.4 liter pushrod engine as proven on Alderman Datsun's dyno. I spent time at the road tracks in the northeast division of SCCA when Paul Newman was a contender in GT1 class driving a Datsun Z car
To me,NASCAR racing is merely a demolition derby confined to an oval track ;)
NASCAR was once a sanctioning body of a dragracing division that lived a couple of years in the late '60s...the first dragstrip I went to was Pittsburgh International Dragway that at one point in time was a NASCAR dragstrip


Wally Parks,the father of NHRA racing was allegedly to have once told Bill France,the father of NASCAR that if you could still make a turn after going down a straightaway,you were going too slow :p
 
Is road racing like rallying or more like touring cars? I'm in the UK so we have different racing series. I like a lot of the formula racing- F1, GP2, Formula Renault etc. I've also been following Formula E. It's a bit slow at the moment but the technology is still in the pretty early stages. We're hoping to go to the race in London if the tickets aren't too expensive.
 
Rally cars run a timed distance from one point to another against a clock and not involving other race traffic...a roadrace is a continuous circuit that involves multiple laps and cars running together,many times on public roadways but also on purpose built tracks
 
roadracing involves any type of car that is driven on a circuit that involves both right and left turns,hills and a surface that is either all or part of a public roadway or a purpose built track to simulate the same...costs to prevent damages to property and the amount of time a section of a town must be closed to race on it have moved most roadracing to purpose built courses at this point in time.

In dragracing,we often drive single seat cars that are purpose built machinery with no intention of climbing a hill or making a turn.

Road racing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The Autobahn in Germany is one of the last public roadways that has sections on it that have no posted speed limits or governmental limits on the books. They say that when a crash occurs on the Autobahn,there are usually no survivors and only a nasty mess to clean up. After World War II President Eisenhower saw the military value of such a highway system for moving equipment,troops and the use as airport runways. In the United States of America,the interstate system of highways are called the Dwight D Eisenhower System of Interstate Transport and Defense Highways after him that have table top straight sections to serve as temporary airports during war times ;)

I have an accurate electronically recorded event of 155 miles per hour (250 kph)/100 mph(160 kph) over the posted limit on a section of the Eisenhower system during a test and tuning session in a street legal modified American production car :p
 
Nitro said:
The Autobahn in Germany is one of the last public roadways that has sections on it that have no posted speed limits or governmental limits on the books. They say that when a crash occurs on the Autobahn,there are usually no survivors and only a nasty mess to clean up. After World War II President Eisenhower saw the military value of such a highway system for moving equipment,troops and the use as airport runways. In the United States of America,the interstate system of highways are called the Dwight D Eisenhower System of Interstate Transport and Defense Highways after him that have table top straight sections to serve as temporary airports during war times ;)

I have an accurate electronically recorded event of 155 miles per hour (250 kph)/100 mph(160 kph) over the posted limit on a section of the Eisenhower system during a test and tuning session in a street legal modified American production car :p
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The IndyCar Series currently has a round at an airport in Toronto (usually a doubleheader, but there were scheduling conflicts this year). They've also used one in Edmonton.

Sebring International Raceway in Florida used to be an airport, and you can tell.
 
Keith said:
The IndyCar Series currently has a round at an airport in Toronto (usually a doubleheader, but there were scheduling conflicts this year). They've also used one in Edmonton.

Sebring International Raceway in Florida used to be an airport, and you can tell.
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The former Pittsburgh International Dragway was originally an old airport that was in a valley until the new airport was built on a hill
Our little strip of asphalt was very important in the mid sixties and seventies for dragracing,and was located just 15 miles away from Yenko Chevrolet

The importance of the Yenko name in American musclecar history is known worldwide in performance circles. The Yenko Stinger flywheel upgrades and carb mounts for them were done in the basement of the house I was raised in about 20 miles from Don Yenko's Canonsburg Pa USA dealerships. I personally knew/know two of the builders of the Yenko Super Cars,one now diseased and the other holding all the build sheets he removed from every YSC ever built. There are a lot of YSC owners who would give up part of their anatomy to have them back.

Don Yenko was instrumental in the factory producing special COPO (corporate office production order) cars that allowed an engine over 400 cubic inches to be factory installed in smaller General Motors cars
All of the Chevrolet Super Sport and Rally Sport cars were ordered as options and the chrome badging was dealership installed and not by GM
The Z-28 Camaro was the RPO (regular production order) number used on the order form to gain a factory built racecar for the original Trans Am racing series aka the Baby Grand Nationals or ponycar series of roadracing that had a class limit of a 305 cubic engine...at 302 inches,it allotted for three over [email protected]/.020/.030 inch before the engine was disqualified for competition.
Ford followed suit with the 289 being bumped up to 302 for the Mustang and American Motors went to a 304 in the Javelin/AMX cars. The Chrysler Corporation offer nothing as factory sponsered racing after the fiasco over the Daytona Chargers and Superbird in NASCAR
The old race on Sunday and sell on Monday stuff was destroyed by NASCAR itself.
The new NASCAR car of tomorrow is no longer based on a stock car and has become a formula car as they trashed their own roots in the name of safety when the cars got too fast to be safe ;)

Sorry for getting out of hand here...it is one my lifelong special interests
 
Oh, I see- thanks for clearing that up :) We do have drag racing in the UK and there is an oval circuit here too, but neither is very popular.
 
Road racing doesn't just involve cars. Motorcycle road racing is the most exciting form of racing to me. The premier class of motorcycle road racing
is called MotoGP. Just think about it...........over 200mph; riders side by side; uphill/downhill; left turns/right turns.
NASCAR, really?????? Give me a break!
I'm going to try to embed a clip or two. If I can't figure it out, then just click the link.
These guys are unbelievable!!!
 
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