Saw this Ozzy meme and now I'm curious...

[Yeshuasdaughter]

 

[Mr. Stevens]

I'm not the biggest fan, but for what it's worth I'll say "Planet Caravan." Assuming we are counting Black Sabbath.

 

[Forest Cat]

"Bat Out Of Hell" was pretty good.


kidding

 

[tkcartoonist]

Symptom of the Universe, hands down.

By the way, how many people know he recorded a song with the group Was Not Was in the 80s? Surprised me when I found that out.

 

[AGXStarseed]

If my Mum was active on this website, she'd probably say "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath.
She once recorded that song to two sides of a tape so she could just listen to it constantly in the car (this happening before I was born).

 

[Lysholm]

Not to hijack this thread, but can anyone explain why Black Sabbath was such a big deal and so many bands cite them as inspiration?

Methinks their notoriety was purely from the intentional "shock rock" and controversies. It's as if their "inspiration" was simply p**sing off mom and dad.

Plus, Ozzy performed for so long that I think most of his fame is simply everyone alive knows his name.

"Bat Out Of Hell" was pretty good.

Not to double-hijack this thread, but how TF Meatloaf can justify his album art for his pop jams is a mystery of the universe. (I get the Ozzy connection, though)


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But, if I had to pick the best IMO it would be Crazy Train specifically from the Tribute (to Randy Rhoads) album.

 

[Human Avatar]

Symptom of the Universe, hands down.

By the way, how many people know he recorded a song with the group Was Not Was in the 80s? Surprised me when I found that out.

Agreed great song ! My favorite ,The Wizard and Sabbra Cadabra.

 

[tkcartoonist]

Not to hijack this thread, but can anyone explain why Black Sabbath was such a big deal and so many bands cite them as inspiration?

Methinks their notoriety was purely from the intentional "shock rock" and controversies. It's as if their "inspiration" was simply p**sing off mom and dad.

Plus, Ozzy performed for so long that I think most of his fame is simply everyone alive knows his name.


Not to double-hijack this thread, but how TF Meatloaf can justify his album art for his pop jams is a mystery of the universe. (I get the Ozzy connection, though)


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But, if I had to pick the best IMO it would be Crazy Train specifically from the Tribute (to Randy Rhoads) album.

My guess: Sabbath didn't sound like too many other bands in the late 60s/early 70s. I think a lot of that had to do with how Tony Iommi tuned his guitar: the tips of his right hand were chopped off in an accident he had, so to compensate he tuned his guitar lower, giving it that sound most associated with later metal acts.

As for Meatloaf's cover art, that's nothing. Take a look at the average Molly Hatchet cover sometime, then listen to their song "Flirting with Disaster". The covers don't fit the music at all.

 

[Markness]

Not to hijack this thread, but can anyone explain why Black Sabbath was such a big deal and so many bands cite them as inspiration?

Methinks their notoriety was purely from the intentional "shock rock" and controversies. It's as if their "inspiration" was simply p**sing off mom and dad.

Tony Iommi, their guitarist, innovated heavy metal guitar and him, along with the rest of the band, dared to be different.

I’ve read interviews with the band members and not only have they spoke highly of their families, their own families supported them and their music. They weren’t aiming to shock anyone like say GG Allin. They just wanted to make their own sound.

If anything, I don’t think they get the respect they deserve enough.

 

[Forest Cat]

Not to double-hijack this thread, but how TF Meatloaf can justify his album art for his pop jams is a mystery of the universe. (I get the Ozzy connection, though)

The album art is not as strange as his artist name, Meatloaf. Why not Crown Roast of Lamb or Bratwurst. Chicken Casserole.

 

[Lysholm]

Sorry @Yeshuasdaughter if I'm bogarting your thread. Don't hesitate to tell me to get lost.

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So, I was alive in the eighties and remember Black Sabbath being on the radio constantly. By the time Black Sabbath was twenty years old they were considered "classic rock" and were played on those radio stations. When grunge hit, Ozzy got put onto those same stations. I also vaguely remember the echoes of the "satanic panic" and the blame put on music for...everything bad in life.

Back then rock gods were a dime per dozen. Every kid wanted to be Eddie Van Halen and rock dads all recited the unsophisticated and incorrect chant that Eddie was the greatest guitar player who ever lived. (Eddie had to be autistic, BTW.) Back then most people didn't know the names of band members. Unless someone's name was in lights, they died in a plane crash, or released a s*x tape, most people didn't know who played what in which band. Even my dad, who loves Rush, doesn't know who Geddy Lee is or that they were Canadian. I wouldn't know these things without YouTube.

Marketing hype in the nineties changed things a bit, with the focus being on the rock star instead of their art. Korn, for example, isn't remembered for their guitar playing, only that they did guitar different than guitars had been guitared before. Confounding the issue even more in the nineties was overproduction of master tracks that drown out pretty much all individuality in an artists playing and covered up a lot of sloppy technique. Any uniqueness was cut from the mix to ensure product consistency that aligned with a predetermined marketing strategy.

Sorry, I have a point: we are hyper-aware of these old rock superstars because there aren't any now. It's false scarcity causing modern audiences to give old rockers massive props. In reality, there are endless people (now and then) who are way better on *name the instrument* and nobody cares. And these people are in your community right now being awesome while no one notices. If you get into your local scene, you will be astonished by the random people who have massive talent and a magnetic persona.

I'm kinda against propping up these old rock stars because it makes the entire music industry look backward instead of moving forward. IMO this is aiding in rock instruments becoming irrelevant.

 

[tkcartoonist]

^Going a little bit on that point: who knows the names of Stuart Morrow, Piggy D'Amour, Bob Mould, or Martin "Youth" Glover? All of these people have, or had, tons of talent yet will likely never be known outside their respective bands' fanbases. None of them tried to be rock stars, yet to my ear who has heard all their music, they are.

 

[Ella Spell]

Solo:
I'm a sucker for I Don't Know and Flyin' High Again.
Dreamer makes me cry.
Here For You reunited me with my beau last year.

 

[Nick000]

Without question it's Diary of a Madman. It's absolutely brilliant. Randy Rhoads and Bob Daisley were an unbelievable composing team, and Sharon was a fool to break the real band "Blizzard of Ozz" up. That entire album along with Revelation (Mother Earth) from the Blizzard album, are the reasons I became a guitar player. That's no slight to Sabbath at all, because Rhoads was all out brilliant and Daisley is a phenominal lyricist, arranger and player.