The culture of lying

[Jonn]

As a traditional aspie, I have a problem with lying.
Unfortunately, we seem to be at the pinnacle of deception in my living memory.
Sad but true.

 

[Jumpinbare]

Yes, so many people buying into so many delusions now. I also have difficulty with lying. While still young, I read Samuel Clemons' comment on truth vs lies. It's much easier to just tell the truth - then you don't have to keep all the lies straight. I took it to heart then, and still do. I have learned it is often wise to not just blurt out everything. I learned that judiciously not dispensing sensitive truths is a valuable social skill, but if pressed I'm not going to tell "white lies" if I can avoid it.

 

[Misty Avich]

I've never been able to relate to the Aspie code of "truth is easier/better than lies". While I'm not a fake friend or anything and like to be honest in a respectful loyal sort of way, I'm not the sort to give unwanted truths. Offline it is much harder for me to tell the truth in a lot of situations. I find that lying is often easier.

 

[Xinyta]

Yes. It is an unfortunate turn of events that we now live in a world that accepts lying as the norm. Echo chambers and narcissism create isolation, in the end.

It's a trap I find myself stuck in. And I still haven't broken it. Hopefully this'll change one day soon.

 

[Jonn]

Yes, so many people buying into so many delusions now.

The problem is mainly two-fold, in my mind:

Many ppl lack critical thinking skills, and many want to be part of a community, embracing blind groupthink as a result.
The hustler knows how to manipulate their marks.

While a mob-mentality is as old as civilisation, the audacious bald-faced lies of these modern times are astonishing.
I have seen blatant lies denying the obvious, easily verifiable reality, believed by clueless groupies, or worse, those who are complicit in disseminating disinformation.

As I have said, in the past, the dearth of critical thinking skills is staggering.

I also have difficulty with lying. While still young, I read Samuel Clemons' comment on truth vs lies. It's much easier to just tell the truth - then you don't have to keep all the lies straight.

That isn't what inspires my value in honesty.
To me, honesty is part of the journey towards credibility, and integrity.

There are ppl in the community who have time and time again, shown they see no value in honesty.
There comes a point where their credibility is so low, due to so many examples of deceit, I simply ignore anything that is said by them, understanding that some truth can be thrown into the mix via tokenism.

I took it to heart then, and still do. I have learned it is often wise to not just blurt out everything. I learned that judiciously not dispensing sensitive truths is a valuable social skill, but if pressed I'm not going to tell "white lies" if I can avoid it.

There is absolutely time where judicious honesty should be practiced, imo.
I don't like it, but this is not a perfect world, and humanity is extremely flawed, necessitating conscious decision-making into when, or when not to disclose certain information.
Thankfully, for me, that is rare.

I find encountering an obvious pathological liar both disturbing, and fascinating.