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The Trouble With Search Engines Recommending AI Generated DIY or Self Help Websites

Yeshuasdaughter

You know, that one lady we met that one time.
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I am looking online for help with diagnosing a mechanical problem with my sewing machine.

Every site I have clicked on has been a ridiculous, zero help time waster!

They all have been generated by AI, and just have the same mishmash of nonsense articles, with no actual practical mechanical help.

Every one suggested on page one, by Duckduckgo has been a different flavor of the same garbage.

Does anyone else have this same problem with search engines these days?
 
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I guess until I can find something typed out by an actual human being, ...hand stitching it is!!
 
Have you looked on YouTube? There are a surprisingly large number of step by step repair/restore videos of all sorts on there. It is how I learned how to rewire a lamp.

None of it is AI.
 
Terrible with sew machinrs always knot bobbins and ask a gran...or neighbour who old....they supper supper with these machines.
I think if it's repair work ...this was one most complex machines ever invented, send to professional
But exact make n model should be available, on google
 
Yes you are right about YouTube. There are so many helpful tutorials, that one could get the equivalent of a college education just from watching and learning from videos.


Often though, I am in a hurry and would rather just read a list of instructions and consult a diagram. But it seems the helpful diy websites are harder to find these days.
 
I am looking online for help with diagnosing a problem with my sewing machine.

Every site I have clicked on has been a ridiculous, zero help time waster!

They all have been generated by AI, and just have the same mishmash of nonsense articles, with no actual practical mechanical help.

Every one suggested on page one, by Duckduckgo has been a different flavor of the same garbage.

Does anyone else have this same problem with search engines these days?
Have you tried emailing the manufacturer with the model number and maybe a picture of the problem? Maybe there's a sewing machine repair shop you could contact? Maybe a forum?

AI generated customer support seems to be the new wave. It is cheap. A lot of people who worked tech support will be unemployed by it. It was starting to be that way when I retired.
 
Unfortunately nowadays you basically have to add 'reddit' to nearly all Google searches to find results written by real people. And even then it's not perfect because sometimes Google will show a Reddit post as being a month old and you click it and it's from 2013. Why? I don't know, but at least it's still written by an actual person (and depending on what your problem is, sometimes it doesn't matter how long ago something you find is or you may end up on a subreddit about that very topic and you can ask them there and get help from real people).

It's annoying, search engines are basically useless nowadays.
 
We need the make, model, & description of problems with your machine.
If it was one of the little iron ones I could fix it for you--I am OK at working on them.

AI is probably going to finish off what's left of the Internet.
 
Honestly, this sort of thing was a problem loooooong before any of the AIs showed up. Most articles of the sort you're talking about were written a long while before any of that, and Google has been a mess for just as long (after all, the people who run it dont care).

I've been mostly avoiding using Google (or DuckDuckGo) to search for "help with anything" stuff for years now. Many years.

But see, there's an actual reason why it's this way now: Youtube.

Usually, people dont really want to read about something like that, and the more complicated it gets, the less likely a simple article will be helpful to most people. Not to mention that many just dont like reading things overall.

But on Youtube, you can simply SEE someone perform the very task you need help learning, while explaining what they are doing at the same time. Even better if you find yourself actually liking whoever is making said video. This direct visual & personal approach goes a very, very long way to making any given task drastically easier to understand.

This also means that, for those that want to MAKE this type of content, writing an article about it wont even occur to them. Youtube is usually the first thing that comes to mind. There are exceptions, but that's rare.

Seriously, articles about stuff like this have been a dead end for a LONG time. Many years. And a lot of sites have always been... sketchy, at best. Particularly when it comes to anything that could have potentially dangerous aspects, or things that are easily damaged, it's DEFINITELY better to see a proper demonstration of what's being done. All of that is why I always tell people to just go to Youtube.

And yes, I know there's a sort of desire like "but I just want to do it quicker", but the thing is, if you go into it with not quite enough knowledge (or incorrect knowledge) to do it and make an unexpected mistake, well... you could be spending like 10x more time... and some money... to fix further breakage. Besides, a skilled teacher/demonstrator on Youtube can give explanations very efficiently. It's worth finding such channels.



Oh, and be careful about Reddit. It can be very useful, but it can also be extremely erratic and Google often likes to take you to REALLY old posts. Those two things together can mean big problems.

If you must use a non-video resource, a forum is better... if you can find one. Just be aware that this can take MUCH longer than just using a video, depending on the forum. It could take literal days to get a response from a smaller one. If you get a response at all. But, there could be other benefits to finding such a forum, so it's worth looking for. Maybe you can find a big one with enough searching, who knows? Sewing overall isnt exactly an uncommon topic.

Good luck!
 
ChatGPT isn't intelligent or genuinely knowledgeable.
At present it's not unlike an automated version of the second-rate writers who create the useless web sites.

It wouldn't be impossible to develop tech that could do a quality assessment of its sources, but that will be fighting against people who make money by lying about their content. It won't be easy.

The process will be interesting. I'm not sure truth and usefulness will win, but unlike with Google, where the platform participates enthusiastically in the web of lies, at least there's a chance its replacement will do better.

Personally I won't miss Google a bit. The second they decided to monetize by lying to their raw material (their users), I started praying for its replacement to turn up.

ChatGPT may not be the replacement, but something wll come along. I'll feel considerable "schadenfreude" the day people in general start referring to Google as a dinosaur /lol.
 
I am looking online for help with diagnosing a mechanical problem with my sewing machine.

Every site I have clicked on has been a ridiculous, zero help time waster!

They all have been generated by AI, and just have the same mishmash of nonsense articles, with no actual practical mechanical help.

Every one suggested on page one, by Duckduckgo has been a different flavor of the same garbage.

Does anyone else have this same problem with search engines these days?
Use alternative search engines like metacrawlers, the internet is not what it used to be.
 
Wiby was fun. I absolutely love the format. But the search results were kind of not what I hoped for. I looked up "female welders" and it gave me random search results ranging from "women's fashion" to "female piety".

It is a promising site though, if the programmers can find a way to make the search results more specific to the query.
 
If you must use a non-video resource, a forum is better... if you can find one. Just be aware that this can take MUCH longer than just using a video, depending on the forum. It could take literal days to get a response from a smaller one.
That's pretty much my most primary form of troubleshooting when it comes to Linux issues. That complex questions usually require complex answers.

Something more likely to be found in a forum environment over something very specific. Sometimes it can take a number of sources to find what you're really looking for. In essence, don't ever expect to find precisely what you are looking for the first time you access the first search engine source. More likely it will be the third, fourth or fifth source you stumble onto. Perhaps even many more...requiring patience and persistence.
 
So there's a few problems with my sewing machine.

It's a Kenmore sewing machine. From the 1990s, but all I've really had to do to maintain it is oil it and keep it dust free, and it's served me well.

I haven't used it since I lived at my old house. I have kept it tucked away in a compartment in my desk since then, to protect it. I discovered last night that it was damaged in the move. The little metal rungs that hold the spools of thread (spool pins) are jammed deep inside the machine. So it was clearly dropped upside down.

And then you know how you guide the thread through the machine, up over the thread takeup? Well, the thread keeps catching on something inside the machine, along the thread guide. I suspect there's a loose screw or wire that's tangling it up.

Also the bobbin tension regulator was completely smashed down against the top of the machine.

So it's just a big mess. I was hoping to open it up and try and repair it myself. I don't have the funds for a new one right now, and there are a lot of projects I'd like to work on- from patching holes to creating new garments.
 
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This isn't the kind of diagram I was looking for, but if you are a geek, and you enjoy sewing, you may find it quite funny:

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So, according to this diagram, both spinny things are jammed deep inside of the body of the machine. The flux capacitor that leads to the bobbinator is totally schmushed. And the blue line gets caught up and tangled up somewhere within the horn of gondor, which I suspect is from a loose screw.

My poor little sewing machine was dropped on its head, and it makes me sad.
 
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I have never heard of metacrawlers. What is it?
I'm sorry I can't explain this in technicsl detail. Basically, the algorythm works differently and there is no product placement and less filtering. The search engine simply 'crawls' text on websites and looks for the phrase you've given it. Which is basically what google used to do...
 

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