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Wish I wasn't an Aspie

If you could cure your ASD, would you?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 24.1%
  • No

    Votes: 22 75.9%

  • Total voters
    29

Pocket86

Well-Known Member
I just need to vent/rant... I see so many articles and posts about people who wouldn't change their diagnosis if they could. I just don't understand this. I hate being an Aspie. It makes everything so difficult. It's hard to make friends and fit in. I've lived my whole life feeling out of place. I've been picked on and made fun of too many times. It's hard to get a job and keep a job. It's difficult to enjoy the Holidays and special events. There are so many people, bright lights, and loud noises. I usually end up in a meltdown. NTs don't understand me and I don't understand them. It's just a confusing world and I wish I could change it.
 
I had my far share of hardship being placed in a foster home, living on my own at age 17, been on and off welfare and unemployment several times, and I might be at risk being homeless soon if I can't find a stable income soon. Despite I hate interacting with people, I learned it very important in life to get opportunities. I will add, I had many people disappointed me. But with patience, I found people want to help instead of playing mind games.
 
I have problems too. Everybody has them. I do have meltdowns, and hypersensibility, but it is just problems I deal with, I improve myself by learning how to control them. I now notice the importance people see in being accepted in a group, a thing that I wouldn't have seen if I were NT. Being an aspie is not that bad for me, because even though I don't understand people, I get to know if they really want to be with me.
Is like being rich(about money). Sometimes, people are born rich, not really appreciating what they have, just taking it as normal. Having everything, all the knowledge, every person for your disposal and blah blah, is not that important for me.Not having problems is...a bit boring, don't you think?.
If you are born poor, you are fighting for surviving, or if you are ignorant of some things, you can learn them whenever you want. Those are purposes that I wouldn't have if I were born knowing how to interpret directly, without having quirks to handle or places to discover aspy-ly (if that's an adverb). I like being an aspie. It isn't because I like meltdowns, it is because I have the curiosity for other life forms, a thing that many NT's don't have. And, eventually, I will know not only what NT's know(I hope), but also some much more because of what I lived to learn it.
The painting doesn't matter, it's the technique it was made with, the colors it was splashed with and the message it contains for the ones who can interpret. (I wrote that)
So, no, I would not take that medicine.
 
I just wish I could get out of the house and act like a responsible adult without having meltdowns. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't. Today was a "can't" day. *sigh*

I am all for aspie pride. If you can love who you are and embrace your unique strengths then that is a good thing. But I don't begrudge anyone for wanting an easier life.
 
I just need to vent/rant... I see so many articles and posts about people who wouldn't change their diagnosis if they could. I just don't understand this. I hate being an Aspie. It makes everything so difficult. It's hard to make friends and fit in. I've lived my whole life feeling out of place. I've been picked on and made fun of too many times. It's hard to get a job and keep a job. It's difficult to enjoy the Holidays and special events. There are so many people, bright lights, and loud noises. I usually end up in a meltdown. NTs don't understand me and I don't understand them. It's just a confusing world and I wish I could change it.
I work at a drop in for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled, this has helped me make a lot of friends. I also have a lot of my friends but that's probably because I have had a life style where I have been socialized from a very young age. I just want you to know that the path is harder for us, but you can totally develop skills and a thicker skin. I think the reason aspies are proud is the because we are individuals and we're passionate. That's something not everyone can say.
 
Or... you could try and mitigate those issues into something else and reinvent yourself to function with your "shortcomings".

From all the issues that might be considered "part of ASD" there's not really something that comes to mind which I take issue with. If anything, I'm quite happy I have little to no desire for all that social stuff, thus I'm not even missing out. Heck, I don't celebrate any holidays or special events, nor does anyone else in my family because we all think it's silly to begin with.

Granted, a job is an issue, but I'm not even sure if my inability to find a job that works for me is an ASD issue by itself, or just the fact that I have no real interest for anything traditional anyway.

What I often see in posts like this, and this is by no means, me wanting to tell everyone they're wrong for wanting this, is that the ones wanting a cure of sorts, are the ones who are desperately trying to fit in and in a sense putting themselves, their personality, their identity, in the background in favor of being a bland gear in the machine.

If anything, I'd like to see more diversity among the population (along with acceptance everyone is an individual in their own right), rather than a cure for me and others to fit in more.
 
I don't want to cure my AS, but I would like a cure for depression and anxiety. I think that if I didn't have AS, or I could stop being and aspie somehow and become an NT, I would still have problems... different problems, but still problems.

I actually like being different, I don't want to be like everyone else. It's one thing I've always liked about myself, that I have a different, independent way of thinking and I don't follow the herd. The problem is not that I'm an aspie, but that other people don't want to accept that I'm different and want me to conform to their way of thinking. This is what needs to be cured, not my being an aspie.
 
I totally empathise (I think..haha!). Sometimes I get bogged down by how disconnected I feel, and I wish I could understand how NT brains work. Sometimes I feel totally out of touch with everything, and everyone, to the point of feeling like it really is just a strange, strange planet I've been sent to study, like an anthropologist or something. Except like anthropologists, I can never remove myself from the 'Aspie lens' enough to see NT behaviour as it really is; it always seems foreign and non-sensical, it is always filtered through the lens of my Aspie ideology/logic. As a result, I find I get angry and overwhelmed, and sometimes I feel like all NT's are just too 'stupid' to get me (I know they're not, and I'm partly to blame, but it's an easy cop-out when I'm angry). Sometimes I wish I could just 'leave the planet' and find somebody, in some otherworldly galaxy, who does understand. I've noticed that usually I only feel this way during a meltdown, which I've curbed down to once or twice a month (at least the really bad ones anyway). These are the days I tend to wish I could 'change' myself into an NT.

On the bright side, sometimes I am in awe of what my brain can do, and the speed at which it can process information, and explore ideas. Ironically, this also makes me feel isolated at times, as there have definitely been points in university where I knew with absolute certainty, even upon reflection after an obligatory cooling-off period, that I understood the topic better than the tutors who grade the papers do, and I have lost marks countless times over it. [Side note: Anybody who says NT's don't have meltdowns like Aspies has never seen an NT being told there is a slight gap in their knowledge-base or logic. You'd think the ground would fall from beneath their feet if they admit a mistake has been made] But it's all learning how to deal with what you're given, because even inspite of how 'cut off' and excluded I am from NT social circles, university for me has been the happiest time of my life. I've never been more socially ostracised or isolated as I was this year (won't go into the details...), but I am so satisfied with what my mind is capable of, and so engaged with the subject matter, that it offsets the feeling of Aspergers being a downside to my existence. My social isolation operates at a level where I'm alone most of the time, which means my work is always of a high quality. I watch all the NT's struggle to grasp basic concepts, let alone produce new ideas and articulate them clearly, and I think to myself how amazing the Aspie brain can be, if we learn to work with its strengths. I also have an NT best friend, who is the most patient, understanding, compassionate individual in regards to Aspergers. He celebrates that part of me, and helps me through the struggles!

I guess what I'm trying to get at is, Autism is definitely a challenge, and one I wish I didn't have some days. But I am overcoming it, and learning to live with it, and even value and cherish it. Would I change my diagnosis? Some days, sure. But most days, I am grateful for how much beauty and wonder I can see in the world as an Aspie, and I know NT's can never really understand that either. As long as I know what makes me happy, and limit my expectations of myself to what is reasonable (i.e. like you said with avoiding all the noise in the streets, busy environments, etc.), I live a fairly content existence. We all know where our limitations are, and spend a lot of time focusing on our weaknesses; as Aspies, we have been socialised to think we're damaged goods, or belong on some island of misfit toys. I think it's important to remember that it was an NT who decided Aspies are defective, and that's because they only saw the 'diagnosable' downside to it, and labelled it a 'disorder' (their NT mind was clearly incapable of understanding all the potential of the Aspie mind). The trick is not wasting energy focussing on your Aspie weaknesses and limitations, and diverting all that energy instead into exploring the outermost reaches of the strengths of YOUR unique way of being Aspie. Whether it's your ability to study for long periods, understand complex ideas, zero in on special interests, etc. there is without a doubt something you can GAIN from being an Aspie. I truly hope you find it, and value yourself so much more as a human being when you do :)
 
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People who don't want to change... i'm hesitant to call Aspergers a deficit of some sort but, it does present it's difficulties. Why would someone not to want to change that? Many people who are born blind or deaf don't want to change either because those difficulties affected who they are and how they observe and interact with the world. While gaining senses would give them a different knowledge of the world, it would also challenge the world they knew and require new coping skills. At the same time, it would gradually change the focus on the senses they had before. That's huge when you think about it.
Then there's also the resistance to change similar to what victims of abuse go through that makes them resist counseling advice, or makes them stay in bad relationships because, at least there, they know where they stand in that hell, as opposed to the potential 'hell' they might find if they change. That's pretty huge when you think about it.
 
I've thought before that I wished I wasn't an Aspie but now I'm okay with it. I was diagnosed when I was two and found out when I was nine. If I wasn't an Aspie I would be a completely different person. For one thing, I can fluently remember thing from when I was THREE. Honestly, if I lost my memory I don't know what I would do.
 
I have a family that is made of neurotypical people. They never understood me and still don't. However, after seeing how they behave, I am waving the Asperger's Pride Flag proudly. Yeah sometimes i want to be able to connect with NTs on their level. I want to fit in and I want to be part of the crowd. It would also be nice to not run away from any crowded place.

For the most part, I celebrate my differences. Yes, they make life hard. Yes, my issues sometimes overwhelm me. However, I would not trade my view of the world and things in it for being NT at all. My parents were both into sports. I ended up swimming and being part of a team (a sport I could do alone but contribute to something greater than myself). I loved it and most of them accepted me for who I am. There were a few that bullied me. I have to say this though, in my parents denial that there was something unusual about their child they forced me to socialize.

In their attempts to normalize me, i ended up making rules of engagement so to speak. Things I can and cannot do to keep friends. It helps but there are times I need to slink to my room and just be me for awhile.

I guess my point in all this is that i see both sides. Yes, sometimes I wish life was easier. I wish i were NT. However, most of the time I don't. I like the way I see things. I like sharing that view with NT's and watching the lightbulbs go off over their heads. I like being different. I think accepting and loving yourself will go a long way to accepting and loving being an Aspie. It isn't without its hardships but there is more good than bad.
 
I feel mostly the same way. I'm getting better at fitting in, but any little thing, like finding out someone knew I had asperger's, sets me off. Like I'm trying so hard to just be "normal" and I still stand out. Every movement I make, the way I talk, etc, and I know I'm still doing well in the "spectrum" but I can feel my differences and it hurts and is exhausting.

But I don't know. What would a cure mean? I was reading recently about a guy that did TMS treatment that allowed him to connect with others better and it ruined his marriage because he wasn't the same person that his wife married. Like, who would I even be if I was "cured?" It's scary, because you couldn't necessarily go back. People still might not like you. I just wish I had been born neurotypical to begin with.
 
It would love to have been born NT! That would make everything easier. I have never thought about a cure actually ruining things I guess since I'm not married or in a relationship. I wonder how it would affect my family and the 1 close friend I do have? It is definitely something to think about.
 
Pocket86, all those disadvantages you listed in your original post were spot-on. Things are bloody difficult for us.

But I'd still rather be honest, do what's right rather than conforming to bs, be kind to people regardless of their place in the social heirarchy, be silly without caring what people think of me and avoid fakery like it's the plague.

Pros and cons, I guess.
 
I just need to vent/rant... I see so many articles and posts about people who wouldn't change their diagnosis if they could. I just don't understand this. I hate being an Aspie. It makes everything so difficult. It's hard to make friends and fit in. I've lived my whole life feeling out of place. I've been picked on and made fun of too many times. It's hard to get a job and keep a job. It's difficult to enjoy the Holidays and special events. There are so many people, bright lights, and loud noises. I usually end up in a meltdown. NTs don't understand me and I don't understand them. It's just a confusing world and I wish I could change it.

Well, I can understand how you feel. However, I spent over 60 years of my life actually thinking I was NT, and feeling really bad that I was so different and could not fit in, was not accepted. At the same time I always thought that those people were really strange and quite predictable and boring in their behaviour - and also very irritating. So, I wondered if I would really wanted to be like them just to be accepted by them.

Ironically, it was I who thought that the majority of people were just plain crazy - and these were NT's. So, would I want to be NT now? Definitely and decidedly not! I am not crazy and don't want to be crazy, but I am an Aspie. Look at how messed up people are in general and how everything around us is being messed up by these same 'normal' people. That which is the NT normal is abnormal to me.
 
I am an aspie and im gay. When i came out as being gay i wished it would go away. Sure enough people can be homophobic and with AS people sometimes see us as weird but its not all disadvantages, my way of accepting it was by focusing on the advantages of being gay and being an aspie. You may even realise that the positives out weigh the negatives.
 

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