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With-held numbers

When In Rome

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Do you ever answer them? I was just thinking as, had one this morning and the other evening, how does this even work exactly? I know some listed companies with-hold their number but said and done, if you are not going to reveal who you are so that I may have some idea why the call is coming in, I'm hardly going to pick up the phone am I.
 
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Do you ever answer them? I was just thinking as, had one this morning and the other evening, how does this even work exactly? I know some listed companies with-hold their number but said and done, if you are not going to reveal who you are so that I may have some idea why the call is coming in, I'm hardly going to pick up the phone am I.

Mostly no. If I'm expecting a call from my doctors I have to answer a with-held number, because for some reason pretty much all doctors call from one...despite the fact that I already know what their phone number is. Other than that, with-held numbers can do one.
 
Most times I do, but quite often call centres call from withheld numbers, I don't answer those, except with a resounding "Sod off! How did you get this number anyway?" :D
 
If it is a local number, I may answer it. Not local and not saved, will not answer. If they don't leave a message, I block their number on my phone so it won't ring again next time. Just straight to voicemail. =)
 
Sometimes I do pick up and answer a mysterious number.
My answer varies, ranging from "Hello," to "Dazzle me,"
depending on what I have observed about the number.

What I say next, if there is an actual live person on the
other end, varies as well. To "How you you today?" a
typical response is "Surprised that you are calling again when
it was only yesterday you said my number would be put
on your Do Not Call List."

Or "No more interested in what you have to say than
I was the last 3 times you called."
 
Oru home phone is a bit odd, it will only ever ring three times and then stop, presumably it is set to go straight to the answering machine, however nobody here has any idea how that works so there could well be many messages on it, maybe one day it will overload and explode.
 
I really don't bother with anyone not in my contacts list. Answering just anyone who calls you is far, FAR worse than simply ignoring it and doing a bit of detective work. Not only that, but voicemail exists for a reason ;)

It's much easier these days to figure out who exactly is calling you and whether or not they need to be blacklisted as well. Most modern smartphones have built-in features, plus there's an app for just about everything so it's really not that big of a concern to me anymore.
 
I prefer not to answer my phone at all, but I'll keep wondering who's trying to reach me and whether it's important. So I'm forcing myself to just answer and get it over with.
 
A big giveaway is a moderate pause between when you answer and when a person or machine at the other end begins to talk. If there is not a near immediate response to my initial greeting, I hang up.
 
I have learned so much in the last three years of all the evils of criminal fraud perpetrated over the phone. Makes using the Internet daily seem benign in comparison. Though in most cases it's the Internet itself which has given me so much grief regarding incoming telephone calls. The whole world has access to my relative age, location and a phone number in the white pages.

Criminals love us old folks. We're taken for granted to be the most gullible. Then factor in all the latest technologies that favor the criminals. That they can choose to make their caller id anonymous, or simply "spoof" it entirely. Where they make it appear as a legitimate business or person, and corresponding phone number. Yet in reality they are someone completely different, with a different number. That only your phone company can actually ascertain in the event of a criminal investigation or customer request. (Even if you ask for the information to be determined, your provider can only give the info to law enforcement and not the customer in the US.)

I live alone with virtually no social contacts. So when my phone rings, it's almost a 99% chance that it's one or two persons tops. (I rarely get calls from businesses for which I am their customer.) About three years ago my phone began ringing off the hook. Unknown parties, unknown businesses and purely anonymous callers. WTF?

You name the scam, and they've tried to get to me. The secret? Pretty damn simple. I NEVER, EVER made actual contact with them. I use caller id not to tell me who is calling, but who isn't calling. ;)

And know absolutely that neither criminals or even legitimate businesses are the least intimidated by the federal no-call list. It's worthless. I've had representatives of the FTC and the state Attorney General's office admit as such.

Some time ago when this really began to frustrate me with the number of calls, I was able to access my phone data base through my provider, and started logging how often the calls would come in. And perhaps most importantly, I began to access a free online service ("Mr. Number"*) which is an open database that allows people to report such callers. The service quantifies how frequent they call people, and also allows public input of the suspected nature of such calls. And it also will document if the calls are being spoofed, which in case the number you see on caller id is not the actual number calling you.

The bottom line is I discovered that for all these calls, sometimes a dozen a day at one point, virtually all of them were criminally fraudulent in nature. And if you read enough about it, you'll discover it's a massive problem these days where law enforcement can't seem to do much at all about it. Though in the US it appears Congress may be working on a partial solution allowing phone providers to police their own lines.

In the meantime though, I discovered a wildly successful USA service (NOMOROBO**) that intercepts most robocalls. (In nearly every case such calls are used in conjunction with automatic dialing systems. Criminals don't call you personally. They're calling hundreds of numbers programmed in their database at the same time. It's why often when they do call you, they don't answer. They can't effectively multitask much like an old time switchboard operator who must choose manually what connection to pursue. Anyway, this service when implemented lets such calls ring once and then they just get rerouted to NOMROBO where they are terminated. As a consequence, the number of fraudulent and unwanted calls has dropped dramatically over time. Once criminals realize you use this service, they know that it is you who are taxing their resources rather than the reciprocal. So they drop you from their programming. It's not perfect, but these days I might have two or three such calls a week rather than 40 to 60. Though as far as I know this service is not accessible to those outside the USA.

Simple point: Don't ever answer a number you don't recognize. Run it through "Mr. Number" to verify your suspicions. In most cases they will likely be validated as criminal in nature. And just understand three things:

1) Career criminal fraudsters have all kinds of scams. They can very convincing. But the key to their success is often simply making contact with you. They're often "pros" at such things. Are you a "pro" at being able to dismiss them? Maybe. Maybe not. A primary reason NEVER to answer their calls. No matter how pissed off you may be, or how much you want to lash out at them.

2) That caller id information and numbers can be hopelessly spoofed, made to appear as someone else. If it's something critical and even financial in nature, you're better off not answering and calling them back using not the number of their caller id, but rather one you KNOW is legitimate.

3) In most cases these are criminals attempting to take from you. Keep in mind these are people most adept at getting mad- and getting even. Don't indulge the possibility of being deliberately singled out for phone harassment. Don't interact with them at all. Keep the process of evading them impersonal.

* http://mrnumber.com/
** How does Nomorobo work?
 
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A big giveaway is a moderate pause between when you answer and when a person or machine at the other end begins to talk. If there is not a near immediate response to my initial greeting, I hang up.

Sometimes what I've done is, like just an hour ago when there was a call with our local area code (however I have discovered it is yet another Indian scam), lift the receiver and just listen. There was a lot of crackling but whoever it was never said anything and put the phone down at their end. So if you do pick it up, don't say anything and wait for them to say something.
 
One of the latest effective scams are perpetrated by simply getting the person who answers to say "YES". And then they use a voiceprint as alleged proof to charge them for something they didn't actually order. Threatening to use the voice print in a court of law and submitting the case to direct collections if they don't comply.

So when a total stranger asks, "Can you hear me?"

Just hang up. Better yet don't answer to begin with based on an unknown caller id. ;)
 
I never answer the phone unless I know who it is and why they're calling. Only exception is if I'm expecting a call from an unknown number. The way I figure is that if someone's calling, it's probably not something good or that I will find great joy in hearing.
 
Wait... some people do pick up the phone when the number is withheld?

No number: no pick up.
Number I don't know: I don't pick up, but I google it so that I know who was calling. If they leave a message, I will grudgingly listen to it, might be a doctor. If they don't, they're being shady. More calls with no voicemail and I will block that number so that they end up on the voicemail right away.
Number I know: depends. I'll pick up anything medical. People I know, I have to brace myself first, but they know not to call in the first place. Except my father. I think his special interest might be telephones ;)
 
I'll pick up anything medical. People I know, I have to brace myself first, but they know not to call in the first place.

I won't. Criminals target older people like crazy over phony insurance issues, medical bills, class action lawsuits, etc., etc.. I suppose other people are targeted as well if they're known to have any particular illness or disability. All compounded by medical records that have been hacked and sold online on the dark web.

Anything medical for me is quite suspicious. Can't tell you how many of those calls I've had....all which amounted to criminal fraud. Many documented on "Mr. Number". Much the case also for phony debt collectors.
 
I should have been more accurate: anything medical, the number of which is saved in my contacts, meaning it would be either the pharmacy (and it's always the exact same pharmacist calling, so I know her voice well enough after a few years). Or one of the 2 doctors I see on a regular basis.

But really, I think I hardly ever pick up the phone. The fact that it's only on vibrate or silent helps, too: I never hear it. Can't stand to hear it ring.
 
I should have been more accurate: anything medical, the number of which is saved in my contacts, meaning it would be either the pharmacy (and it's always the exact same pharmacist calling, so I know her voice well enough after a few years). Or one of the 2 doctors I see on a regular basis.

But really, I think I hardly ever pick up the phone. The fact that it's only on vibrate or silent helps, too: I never hear it. Can't stand to hear it ring.

In the beginning I was quite upset over these calls. Got so I put the ringer volume to barely audible. And quickly became used to the phone as one of the ugliest sounds I could hear.

Yeah, if you're anticipating a specific phone call from a specific vendor, that's a different thing entirely. It's the calls you aren't expecting that you have to be wary of. I even write down those calls that I'm expecting on rare occasion using post-it notes and stick them next to the phone.
 

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