Do you believe in IQ?

It would be nice to be at the top and work at a top global firm or a globally top uni, but I think it might not be sustainable not only for me but for anyone. For me not my IQ is the problem, at least not in the way that it's too small. I have a feeling like I make an impression of having more hard knowledge than I really have, because I have a large working memory and I can reason and operate on things I have never seen before. People often don't understand that the info takes time for me to sink in and don't understand the difference between short term and long term memory, because they don't have a disparity between them or rather... most people don't have a good short term memory at all. Can remember less than 6 digits or other symbols at once and forget what they were doing a not long ago, need repetition to be able to work on the information in the moment. So to sum up, I think my mind works differently than an average mind and I'm poorly understood in that aspect and by the eduvation system. Working memory is actually proportional to IQ. But I can't keep up with the very top stuff, because I have other difficulties, the non-academic ones first and foremost. Autism plays a role in it, because I can't keep up with household chores and my sensory issues are a reason for significant difficulties in daily life, but I don't have the right kind of health and stamina for it too, I need a lot of rest and I'm not the kind of person who is happy with just pursuing career and not having interpersonal relationships and fun and relax. And I get clinical depression if I'm devoid of what makes me happy and can't funtion at all. Feelings make it or break it for me. I can't just bite my teeth and function when something is wrong emotionally - or sensory and health too. It takes an unemotional or asocial person to be a really top performer. Yeah. Complaint over.

I'm glad I'm done with education. Education feels like bullying to me to an extent and so do some corporate jobs. They hold you by the hand and jusy won't let you do things alone when you need time to reflect, work things out, think. There is the constant overstimulation too, you have to sit in the school or office 40 hours a week, it drives me bananas and I skipped classes. People do postgrad degrees, I did the Master's for the paper and I'm happier to self-study or this and have a mentor and coworkers to ask for guidance like currently in academia.

I have meet some interesting people on some positions One company a job shop painting automotive parts injection molded had a mold operator who I heard had a PHD so I went over spoke to him what a character he wanted to under stand the industry from the ground up. meet him months later, they had given him a cubicle in the office i sat i with him we spoke, he called me in next day had copy of his marks at university Oxford, physics graduate straight A's
talking to him boy was he bright. we really hit it off, also saw a woman sweeping up around the molding machine spoke to her she was Russian, found out she had a master degree in mold design told me the mold had a flaw her credentials were not reconized, I was shocked went to office of plant engineer asked about her boy was he arrogant
had no respect for Russian education, asked him about Russian probes on moon all which had no electronics all mechanical, company owner found out about her she got moved to sister plant as metrologist. boy was she happy.
later general motors realized the the mold would not work. She had been right. I even solved an issue with anunusual paint adhesion issue only in one area on the part, I saw the reason in my head could just picture it had to do with surface tension even ordered surface tension pens to prove it Plant manager was pissed at me as my solution was case harden the mold, I got fired a few months later. after I got another position on a coil coating line found out the mold got case hardened a week later and the manager was also fired. This was the same company that had hied the psychologist who tested me. They knew my abilities. I only took the job as I had been unemployed for two years. next position lasted for 21 years, until retirement. I do like seeing people getting screwed or some bully throwing their weight around.

Ronald Zeeman said:

psychologist who tested me.

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Why did they do psychological testing on you?

They did the whole plant the plant manager was looking for an exceptional workforce at the time a recession was happening he got the brightest people I have ever worked with most working for minimum wage, I was hired as painting expert. actually had two job offers as the recession was ending, I took this as it was in my area of expertise.
They were doing a new molding technique with gas and this supplier got the contract starting from scratch. To me it was something new painting plastic Saturn car. make part lighter with gas channel. The other job was quality engineer for a company making brake lines. I took the better fit for less money. Most interesting place I have ever worked at no intellectually challenged workers there. made lots of friends, helped many get better positions. later. Why I know I can help on this forum.

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here is a bit he sent me he wrote a book
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Ronald Zeeman said:

They did the whole plant the plant manager was looking for an exceptional workforce at the time a recession was happening he got the brightest people I have ever worked with most working for minimum wage, I was hired as painting expert. actually had two job offers as the recession was ending, I took this as it was in my area of expertise.
They were doing a new molding technique with gas and this supplier got the contract starting from scratch. To me it was something new painting plastic Saturn car. make part lighter with gas channel. The other job was quality engineer for a company making brake lines. I took the better fit for less money. Most interesting place I have ever worked at no intellectually challenged workers there. made lots of friends, helped many get better positions. later. Why I know I can help on this forum.

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At my first engineering job in the mid 90s, I worked with a guy who had previously worked for Saturn. He was part of the team who designed the transmission cases, which was a fairly new process at the time with the lost foam method. Where I worked he was super bright and top designer in the room.

This was a supplier to Saturn, I liked the job taught me about multi angle measuring colour measurements for exotic colours like metallics. Each job I had I learned from, last position taught me printing. When It comes to painting and colour control, I'm one of the top guys any where. Would love to get an under study. when I first started working a supervisor took me aside look around they paint everything and colour is every where some one has to control it.
I get asked al the time what did I do for a living, just point to random thing around them I probably controlled that.
example trim on lighting fixture, may be frame on picture or trim on tv. I was the guy behind the scene controlling it all.

Funny to recall that even in the case of the most intrusive interview process I ever had in my life, probably the one question they never asked involved my IQ score.

Though I knew that had my college transcripts...even public school grade reports. And a lot more...lol. I suppose had even one prospective employer asked me about such a thing I might have a different response.

So ranting on, I'm doing fine in life, but I might not be destined to go to the top, I can't do the grind required for it and I have some weaknesses. I'm happy that I have found myself in academia. I used to think that academia is only for the best, but I'm not at the top of the top university, it's very good, but it's not famous or anything. Luckily it's not only for the best and I enjoy the job a lot so far - and the company. I lacked the company of fellow nerds and it seemed like all the like-minded people were somewhere there at the top unavailable for me, because I can't grind.

There were high expectations placed on me. Some people quite literally expected me to win the Nobel Prize or become a professor at Ivy League or Oxbridge, based on my achievements at high school. It's hard to live up to these expectations. I'm not going to achieve any of that.

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Funny to recall that even in the case of the most intrusive interview process I ever had in my life, probably the one question they never asked involved my IQ score.

Though I knew that had my college transcripts...even public school grade reports. And a lot more...lol. I suppose had even one prospective employer asked me about such a thing I might have a different response.

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I had IQ testing during psychological diagnosis

vergil96 said:

I had IQ testing during psychological diagnosis

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Me too. Plus it was a requirement for a formal job counseling program. Though neither compared to that one particular job interview process I went through that never involved an IQ score.

All anybody ever cared about was what I did in previous positions, usually head and shoulders over the next candidate. did not know I was on spectrum, always upgraded my qualifications from one position to next. Even had a trade magazine, ask me to write an article about my career for them. really surprised my employer they posed it on bulletin board in lunch room got letters from suppliers basically back slapping. You it can google under my name.
Surreal.

I guess I worked so hard to overcome something I did not know I had that I really overshot the mark. Why I'm watching others on this forum. I suspect they will do the same.