Adderall ?

[Chance]

Never to pry into other peoples medical business... I'm pretty open (on here) about my life and things... I'm guessing someone may have asked this before, but i was wanting to talk to any current members who might have some insight on Adderall...

Admittedly I have some nasty ADD, (or Inattentive ADHD without hyperactivity) which is so confusing to me... but anyway...

I get into these thought patterns that are like hurricanes, they just gather and gather and gather other thoughts until I am just a mess mentally and can't really focus on the important things I truly need to focus on. People will tell me stuff. I will reply, and then realize I never heard a single thing they said... That is rude and embarrassing, yet at times I can't help it, it seems... Even worse, is to do something that was not part of what the conversation was about and then just have to explain I was off in Neverland... It sucks.

At times this sort of scares me because I will have done things and done them right, and never remember doing them... Sort of like driving through towns and thinking back 3 towns later... "Oh geez I don't even remember doing that." Then I often get a little scared because I wonder did I even pay attention to the speed limit, etc... I do the same at work. I get so used to things I do that I "go off in my head" and I finish my work (subconsciously) and then I have to go back and recheck everything because I don't even remember doing it.

I talked to my doctor and he wants me to try Adderall... It has great advantages, but from what I reading it has some really horrible problems down the road... when it time to give it a break, or switch to something else.

I found some other stuff (non-prescription) that "claims" to be as good or better...
There is Alpha Brain and some others... So, if that's a fact then why do so many people still take Adderall??? See my heads already starting this looping thing on this, and I get so tired of it...

My doc knows I hate meds, but he tells me that many people "need" them, but I start this inner conversations of "Do they really need them... Or is this just cause I cant cope with LIFE?"

I just want to FOCUS on something, make a logical decision and move on, but often I get stuck... Very often I get stuck... Especially if it's something outside my normal routine, or a big change in how my life operates...

I just get tired of looking up in my head and seeing this vortex of information spinning that needs to be still so I can figure it out...

If it's something with numbers, or a situation that requires some urgency, I can override it for a while but it's often worse after that situation has passed and I just have to sleep it off. Often even in my sleep I catch myself waking up with this ever changing loop of information that just plays over and over...

At times it makes me feel a little crazy and I told the doctor that I was worried about this, and he told me... (Made me look him in the eye UG!) "I am nowhere close to anything that seems like "crazy"..." So I guess I believe him, or I guess he would have written me up for an eval, or referal like when I was diagnosed..

He really thinks this will help, and he says he knows he can trust me because I never ask for more meds, or an increase in my meds... I have the RX but haven't even picked it up yet...

I just hate the fact I need meds to function in this reality. It makes me feel unwhole, messed up, not right, screwed up in the head, basically a failure in LIFE, but it is what it is, I guess...

Anyone who wants to share opinions, give better options, ideas, or has past or current experiences with ADD or adderall would be appreciated... : )

 

[LucyPurrs]

If you had diabetes would you be reluctant to take insulin? Your brain wiring is no more your fault than diabetes is or any other physical issue.
Clearly you are functioning in reality, and actually damn well given what you have to do to do your job. But maybe the Adderall would help you function more comfortably. I don't know much about it- think it's a traditional med they use for attention deficit disorder. You could give it a try for a week and see if it helps. You're not going to get addicted to it in a week. If it helps then you can decide if it helps enough to make it worth taking.
And BTW, the doc is correct- you're nothing close to crazy.

 

[Chance]

If you had diabetes would you be reluctant to take insulin? Your brain wiring is no more your fault than diabetes is or any other physical issue.
Clearly you are functioning in reality, and actually damn well given what you have to do to do your job. But maybe the Adderall would help you function more comfortably. I don't know much about it- think it's a traditional med they use for attention deficit disorder. You could give it a try for a week and see if it helps. You're not going to get addicted to it in a week. If it helps then you can decide if it helps enough to make it worth taking.
And BTW, the doc is correct- you're nothing close to crazy.

I guess my big worry is I research these drugs, and its a straight up amphetamine... That's just a dark horse to me right up front. I guess I just see it as me being a legal junkie instead of a street thug crack head...
I have some really scary views on meds that are fact based, BUT also based on horrible crap I have read... and a few things I have seen...

Adderall is all new to me... I have never taken it. I feel like a "drug racist" on how awful I seem to look at any form of drug use... But drugs and drug misuse use has a really nasty history in my family, so my bias mostly probably comes from that also. My mom was addicted to some pain pills, she drank, and smoked while pregnant with me... So??? Lots of questions there and there are no good answers. I guess I am a product of drug misuse at some level... ???

I just don't like depending on some drug to make me function. What if I find that I cant function without it? Why cant I function without it? And I do like and understand your Diabetes comparison, but i guess I figure that as a physical condition, and not a mental one (the great divide for me it seems)... So I get all lost there pretty fast...

This is when that cabin in the woods seems like a really good idea... Cut some firewood, collect berries, go fishing, raise a garden, raise some chickens, make some really good old style meals, and just tend to what it takes to live life daily minus all this craziness we tend to love.

1870 in 2018 could be very doable for me (with and advanced flare)... But then I would be seen as the crazy hermit who ran off and hid from LIFE... So, I do this drug dance with the devil, hoping I don't wind up in some place where crack addicts go to get off them. I already am dealing with Xanax and Wellbutrin, two of the greatest nightmares of the pharmaceutical industry... Wow lets add one more... and that makes me feel crazy right there... : (

Maybe my biggest thing is how did people cope in the old days? Did they even have these problems back in the day? If not then why can't we duplicate that today? Were they stronger minded people? They certainly had much harder lives and worked harder than we can even imagine today... See the looping just takes off like a rocket... I could go on and on...
BUT I never get the answer... Just this patch called a drug. UG!

Most people get all happy about some "fix", but not Chance... No, no, no... That's too easy! I have to be all difficult and think stuff into the freaking ground, then dig it back up, shake it to death, and start all over again... The ASD, ADD, OCD "thing" is like running full speed with the brakes on all the way... It's just one thing working against another much of the time, and when people catch on to that... they tend to think ITS WEIRD... And they are right in doing so.

I'm in an obvious head battle lately, but it too will pass and come back some other time in some different situation... that makes me dissect every little piece of it just to confuse myself it seems...

Thank you for your kindness by the way... : )

 

[Bolletje]

You’re being too hard on yourself, Chance.
I don’t have a lot of new things to say, @LucyPurrs was very thorough

I think it would be worth a shot to try the Adderall. Agree to an evaluation period with your doctor, take as prescribed, and if it doesn’t help, or the side effects are unacceptable, stop when the evaluation is over.

Yes, it sucks to have to need meds to function, but is being miserable without meds an acceptable alternative?

As for adderall being amphetamine: true. But people with ADD/ADHD don’t respond to it like any regular person who’s just snorted a line of speed. It helps with your focus, it doesn’t make you a junkie.

 

[SusanLR]

Maybe my biggest thing is how did people cope in the old days? Did they even have these problems back in the day? If not then why can't we duplicate that today? Were they stronger minded people? They certainly had much harder lives and worked harder than we can even imagine today...

In answer to that question, they coped with what they had to cope with.
They weren't stronger minded, there were many then with what you call mental vs physical ailments.
Actually most "mental" issues are "physical."
Some of what is termed pesonailty disorders may fall under that's just the way I am catagory, but, if you look at what most people call crazy they have physical basis.
Neuron, chemical, physical brain and nervous system malfunctions.
The drugs all have potentially bad side effects.
But, if your body needs the extra added chemical to
make it more efficient and you more comfortable,
then it is a matter of choice.
There are natural supplements that work well for some,
others they don't.
Just as the chemical drugs may make some feel and perform better, others may feel worse.
Certain disorders require less dopamine or more of it.
Acetycholine, norepinephrine, seratonin, thyroxine, the
list goes on and on and these are elements that are in our bodies already, but, if they are not in balance the body does not perform well. This can include the mind.
After all if the brain is imbalanced...well, it controls everything doesn't it?
It becomes a deep study. Usually only doctors or in my case, pharmacists put that much effort into those studies. I think you get the idea.
I would use the term drug addict only for those who use certain drugs for things they aren't prescribed for.
Just as a glass of wine is fine, but, a bottle at a time damages.

I've said it before, I also like the idea of living a more simple, slower lifestyle. A small place surrounded by nature sounds heavenly and would probably help my anxiety and depression too. Just no way to do it right now. I depend on medication to live my best also and it still isn't the best! But, I'm resigned to the idea, I don't over use and if I always have to take them, so be it.
They aren't the healthiest for my body, but, what I need them for can kill too. It is what it is.

Be glad you aren't living with a problem way back when.
No drugs, only herbs and hope they worked.
For mental there were what was called the 'funny farms',
'bedlams', lobotomy, or throw you in the shed out back!
Women were called hysterical, or melancholy.
Supposedly it was from their uterus!!!
And drugs...absenthe and laudanum were the creme d' la creme. No thanks.
A simple life with today's technology is as good as it gets for now.

 

[LucyPurrs]

Agree with Dr. Bolletje and Susan LR who have made cogent arguments for the trial of Adderal. As the kind doctor has said- people with ADD do not respond to it in the same way as those without ADD. Instead of speeding them up, it just kind of slows them down and focuses them. So no high there. And I agree so much with Susan LR re mental issues being the result of brain chemistry being out of balance just like other parts of the body.
Good proof of that is schizophrenia which used to be attributed to "bad mothering". Never was it such, it's physiological just like other medical conditions. So you are an unfortunate victim of your own bias against mental illness in a strange kind of way. I'm not saying you are mentally ill, truth is just the opposite, but you are treating yourself as if you are, and with all of society's biases, when I doubt you would do that to others.

Chance, the reality is you are probably functioning better than 99% of the rest of us. I know I could never do your job, even just the piece dealing with upset and angry campers and I don't have the communication issues you do nor the discomfort with social interaction, yet you do the job day in and day out. No crazy person could do that. Give yourself a break- you hold yourself to such a high standard that you almost , but not quite, set yourself up for failure. And that you don't fail is pretty amazing in itself. Hope this doesn't sound like a lecture as I would never want to do that, just help to present this choice in a different light.

 

[Fridgemagnetman]

you almost , but not quite, set yourself up for failure. And that you don't fail is pretty amazing in itself.

I've got ten bucks saying failure.

What odds are you giving me?

 

[Bella Pines]

I get into these thought patterns that are like hurricanes, they just gather and gather and gather other thoughts until I am just a mess mentally and can't really focus on the important things I truly need to focus on.

At times this sort of scares me because I will have done things and done them right, and never remember doing them.

My oddest thing is when I look down, find something in my hand and don't remember ever picking it up, I'll have no memory of how it even got there! It's a nice surprise when it's something like a crunch bar, but quite annoying when it "was" my car keys but they somehow vanished...

I also do the driving thing, it's like I wake up ... somewhere. With no memory of how I got there. Or I get so lost in my thoughts, I can even work myself to tears, then I'll look up and the train carriage has completely changed. People got off and on and it's like I just regained consciousness.

I just hate the fact I need meds to function in this reality. It makes me feel unwhole, messed up, not right, screwed up in the head, basically a failure in LIFE, but it is what it is, I guess...

I don't understand why you think you are a failure, you sound perfectly well adjusted to me. I suppose it's all relative . I hate meds but have occasionally taken them to get myself back on track. After the course is over I try to get back to reality with more natural techniques like yoga, meditation, acupuncture, budhism, anything to align and control the chaos in my head. I wish I could just let it happen but unfortunately I have bills to pay

 

[wight]

@Chance , I take Adderall. For exactly the reasons the reasons you state. I was also concerned about its effects and usage. So I was cautious about it at first. I ended up taking it once a day, in the morning. Half-life of the med is about 8 hours, so it's effects last while I'm at work, but are pretty much worn off by bed-time. I don't know why it works (like the brain chemistry part) but it does help a lot with being able to pull one thought out of the swirling mess and stick with it, or focus on a conversation.

It helps a little with the "I did that and don't remember do it" thing, but in my experience that happens usually when I am doing things I've done hundreds of times and don't really need to pay close attention to doing. Which, by the way, happens to everyone. It's how the brain/mind works, not really to do with ADD or like that.

 

[Chance]

Give yourself a break- you hold yourself to such a high standard that you almost , but not quite, set yourself up for failure.

I am hard on myself... I don't know how not to be I suppose. I guess it sort of goes back to this thing where I know I have to work 4 times as hard as other people to get half out of life as they do... It gets old, cause its basically all I know. I have lived my whole life trying to prove (to myself and to others) I'm not a failure... but look at my marriage, my daily screw ups, my past events with people who basically threw me away and it gets to be like me believing a lie.

So, I get to take drugs to help me prove to myself I can overcome all this perceived failure... which just looks like another failure...

I fully KNOW its how I think and look at the situations... That is part of the loop I get stuck in (a big part of it)... I will get back out of it. Its like its not my choice on when that happens... It usually happens when somehow I get some relief and I just don't see that coming UNLESS I take the meds...

So I will try the Adderall and hope for a good outcome. I'm in a crappy place in my head. I fully admit that. This is when the weird stuff about me is more noticable and I "feel" more vulnerable. However, being allowed to talk it out, (in this case write it out) always helps me find my way back to that semi-solid foundation I call a LIFE.

I know I sound ungrateful, but I truly am grateful, just struggling a lot right now. Things aren't so good and IF i had the answers I would fix them. I know other people struggle so much more than I do and my heart hurts for them in ways I can't even explain. Thats when I start feeling ungrateful for how I get hung up and dragged into some really dark thinking.

I wish I was one of those people who didn't worry over every little thing. Some people think its a control issue and they are very right in some ways... I just worry over my end of not loosing control and being seen as unable to do what I do... That would be yet another failure and I need a win at some point, even a tiny one would be great. : )

 

[Chance]

I've got ten bucks saying failure.

What odds are you giving me?

You need might need to rethink your bet... : ) or maybe up the ante.

I may sound all down, (and I am right now) but I never give up...
Obviously I go until there is nothing left, and still keep going.

I struggle, but it seems that sometimes makes me just a little stronger in the long run.
Looking back 5 -7 years ago... I'm basically a totally different person. I don't even know how I got by everyday. So make your bets buddy... I just dig deeper and find this "stuff" that makes me try a little harder than most care to consider and then crash all over the place, pick up the pieces, swallow what little pride I have, and move forward.

I just would like to do that without the help of meds, but it looks like unless I want to go full hermit, that's not an option... Maybe I resent that a little?

BTW... Dude I am a freaking nightmare. If you are gonna bet on me, you need to throw in some big money. My level of fruitcake has to be worth more than 10 bucks... : )

 

[Chance]

You’re being too hard on yourself, Chance.
I don’t have a lot of new things to say, @LucyPurrs was very thorough

I think it would be worth a shot to try the Adderall. Agree to an evaluation period with your doctor, take as prescribed, and if it doesn’t help, or the side effects are unacceptable, stop when the evaluation is over.

Yes, it sucks to have to need meds to function, but is being miserable without meds an acceptable alternative?

As for adderall being amphetamine: true. But people with ADD/ADHD don’t respond to it like any regular person who’s just snorted a line of speed. It helps with your focus, it doesn’t make you a junkie.

You are right... I am just being my weird self over this and I will try the meds. : )

 

[Mary Anne]

Never to pry into other peoples medical business... I'm pretty open (on here) about my life and things... I'm guessing someone may have asked this before, but i was wanting to talk to any current members who might have some insight on Adderall...

Admittedly I have some nasty ADD, (or Inattentive ADHD without hyperactivity) which is so confusing to me... but anyway...

I get into these thought patterns that are like hurricanes, they just gather and gather and gather other thoughts until I am just a mess mentally and can't really focus on the important things I truly need to focus on. People will tell me stuff. I will reply, and then realize I never heard a single thing they said... That is rude and embarrassing, yet at times I can't help it, it seems... Even worse, is to do something that was not part of what the conversation was about and then just have to explain I was off in Neverland... It sucks.

At times this sort of scares me because I will have done things and done them right, and never remember doing them... Sort of like driving through towns and thinking back 3 towns later... "Oh geez I don't even remember doing that." Then I often get a little scared because I wonder did I even pay attention to the speed limit, etc... I do the same at work. I get so used to things I do that I "go off in my head" and I finish my work (subconsciously) and then I have to go back and recheck everything because I don't even remember doing it.

I talked to my doctor and he wants me to try Adderall... It has great advantages, but from what I reading it has some really horrible problems down the road... when it time to give it a break, or switch to something else.

I found some other stuff (non-prescription) that "claims" to be as good or better...
There is Alpha Brain and some others... So, if that's a fact then why do so many people still take Adderall??? See my heads already starting this looping thing on this, and I get so tired of it...

My doc knows I hate meds, but he tells me that many people "need" them, but I start this inner conversations of "Do they really need them... Or is this just cause I cant cope with LIFE?"

I just want to FOCUS on something, make a logical decision and move on, but often I get stuck... Very often I get stuck... Especially if it's something outside my normal routine, or a big change in how my life operates...

I just get tired of looking up in my head and seeing this vortex of information spinning that needs to be still so I can figure it out...

If it's something with numbers, or a situation that requires some urgency, I can override it for a while but it's often worse after that situation has passed and I just have to sleep it off. Often even in my sleep I catch myself waking up with this ever changing loop of information that just plays over and over...

At times it makes me feel a little crazy and I told the doctor that I was worried about this, and he told me... (Made me look him in the eye UG!) "I am nowhere close to anything that seems like "crazy"..." So I guess I believe him, or I guess he would have written me up for an eval, or referal like when I was diagnosed..

He really thinks this will help, and he says he knows he can trust me because I never ask for more meds, or an increase in my meds... I have the RX but haven't even picked it up yet...

I just hate the fact I need meds to function in this reality. It makes me feel unwhole, messed up, not right, screwed up in the head, basically a failure in LIFE, but it is what it is, I guess...

Anyone who wants to share opinions, give better options, ideas, or has past or current experiences with ADD or adderall would be appreciated... : )

Please check this out: DEA / Drug Scheduling
Schedule II

“Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:

Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin”

Here is my own personal experiences with medications. DO YOUR RESEARCH! I was on Seroquel and Paxil (both are “psyche” meds) for 28 years. Yes they helped me for a while. But I wanted to get off them after reading about the long term effects. I was also on Ritalin for 6 months for ADD and it did nothing for me. So I asked to be taken off.

As for weaning myself off the Seroquel, it has taken enduring many months of hellish withdrawal, sleep deprivation, frightening night terrors, and more. There is actually a long time ongoing Internet thread on people expressing what withdrawal off Seroquel has done to them. No doctor ever mentions side effects of meds! Big pharma encourages the doctors to push new medications upon patients.

There is new info on how most psyche meds have never been tested for long-term use, yet people are put on medications for the rest of their lives! It’s so common now, and the results of long term use are chilling. If you go on Adderal, please do your research...as it’s a “controlled substance” for a reason!

I worked in the mental health field for years. I saw what side effects strong medications have done to patients with all kinds of illness. Extreme shaking, drooling, tardive diskinisia, and dampening of personalities. Medications can be extremely helpful when prescribed correctly, but some are just so wrongly prescribed, and some patients also misuse their prescriptions. Adderal is ripe for misuse, and I would proceed with extreme caution with any “controlled” prescriptions.

It’s good to try other non-drug possible solutions first, but that’s just my opinion. I am not a doctor.

 

[Chance]

Or I get so lost in my thoughts, I can even work myself to tears, then I'll look up and the train carriage has completely changed. People got off and on and it's like I just regained consciousness.

I did this once at the Denver Airport. I was having a really tough time It was the day before Valentine's a few years back. I was trying to make a surprise for my wife, and visit my son and daughter in law (who were ALL in San Diego) ...

I worked very hard, and got all my stuff done. Literally bought the tickets last minute, full price, drove nearly 3 hours to the airport. I was exhausted the first plane was so crowded and I was by this person who was coughing all over me and wanting to talk to me about stuff and I wasn't in the mood to talk (mostly never in that mood)...

It was bad weather, the plane shook all the way there and we never got to take our seat belts off. I had about an hour layover till boarding the plane from Denver to San Diego... It was all piling up in my head and I sort of shut down and also fell asleep... I woke up like 3 hours later and the gate board sign now said Boston (instead of Denver)... It was so messed up... I was so angry at myself and not a soul knew where I was or what I was doing. My surprise turned to poop real fast... And to wonder why I would just rather stay home...

Denver couldn't get me to San Diego, but got me to LAX... oh what a mass of craziness. I rented a car and drove to San Diego. I was calling my wife as I got close and she hung up on me and thought I had sleep dialed her!!! My son lived in some really nice apartment close to Base and I had to park a long way off and walk with my luggage and stuff... I called again and woke her up as I am banging on the door (quietly) at 3am and she liked to have never believed me and let me in...

I only had 2 days and 1 was basically gone because of the insanity at Denver. The next day we went and ate Fish Tacos (bad idea for me) and I got sick...

The next morning they were running a little late taking me back to the San Diego airport. I missed check in by 5 minutes and I got bumped again... So I finally got back to Denver and they couldn't get me a flight back to Love Field... So I rented another car and drove all night so I could be back at work the next day...

I think I could be placed in the Guiness World book of records for the most stupid costly Valentines ever, that become the most tiring nightmare any idiot could imagine. So much for surprises... That ended mine : )

On my keys and stuff... I religiously put EVERYTHING all in one place as soon as I walk in the door. I got so tired of my stuff being where ever I just laid it down. That is now a thing of the past for me mostly... A strange setting and I can screw up pretty easy, but at home or work... I got this down, mostly. : )

 

[Fridgemagnetman]

You need might need to rethink your bet... : ) or maybe up the ante.

I may sound all down, (and I am right now) but I never give up...
Obviously I go until there is nothing left, and still keep going.

I struggle, but it seems that sometimes makes me just a little stronger in the long run.
Looking back 5 -7 years ago... I'm basically a totally different person. I don't even know how I got by everyday. So make your bets buddy... I just dig deeper and find this "stuff" that makes me try a little harder than most care to consider and then crash all over the place, pick up the pieces, swallow what little pride I have, and move forward.

I just would like to do that without the help of meds, but it looks like unless I want to go full hermit, that's not an option... Maybe I resent that a little?

BTW... Dude I am a freaking nightmare. If you are gonna bet on me, you need to throw in some big money. My level of fruitcake has to be worth more than 10 bucks... : )

I've adderalled it up.

Looks like you might fail a drugs test...

Looks like it's doctors orders now...

 

[Mary Anne]

Forgot to say, I spent a couple decades as a raging substance abuser and alcoholic so I am no longer so inclined to use any addicting, or altering drugs. I also took the full 2 year course to become a drug counselor here in the USA. But chose not to go through with it.

 

[Chance]

I've adderalled it up.

Looks like you might fail a drugs test...

Looks like it's doctors orders now...

Very PUNNY! : )

But also another deep concern.. We do random drug testing where I work. Yes, I am management, but not out of that loop if my name is in to be randomly pulled... Yes, I can get past it with the valid prescriptions, but there comes more questions, having proof, stuff to explain to people, and one very real reason I stay off the meds I do take as much as possible... LIFE is kind of a catch 22 sometimes.

I wish at times I didn't care... and could just walk blindly through LIFE like 99% of the people who are around me... Thats a lie, never mind! : )

 

[Chance]

Forgot to say, I spent a couple decades as a raging substance abuser and alcoholic so I am no longer so inclined to use any addicting, or altering drugs. I also took the full 2 year course to become a drug counselor here in the USA. But chose not to go through with it.

But you might be REALLY good at that because you have been on both sides... You sound very knowledgeable and kind in how you explain stuff... I would love to have a conversation with a pirate cat... I'm just playing with you (on the cat)... : )

I have never been a substance abuser... I was born into a family full of that stuff though and its sad to this day watch them lie, to cover the crap they have done... I need to just be quiet now... Its just sick and sad and I never want to become that...

 

[Mary Anne]

But you might be REALLY good at that because you have been on both sides... You sound very knowledgeable and kind in how you explain stuff... I would love to have a conversation with a pirate cat... I'm just playing with you (on the cat)... : )

I have never been a substance abuser... I was born into a family full of that stuff though and its sad to this day watch them lie, to cover the crap they have done... I need to just be quiet now... Its just sick and sad and I never want to become that...

I “never wanted to become that” either! I wasted half of my life!

 

[Mary Anne]

Very PUNNY! : )

But also another deep concern.. We do random drug testing where I work. Yes, I am management, but not out of that loop if my name is in to be randomly pulled... Yes, I can get past it with the valid prescriptions, but there comes more questions, having proof, stuff to explain to people, and one very real reason I stay off the meds I do take as much as possible... LIFE is kind of a catch 22 sometimes.

I wish at times I didn't care... and could just walk blindly through LIFE like 99% of the people who are around me... Thats a lie, never mind! : )

That’s a great point. You are so right in that even with doctors prescription / documentation, there is a certain “outing” of one’s personal secrets. Lucky for me, in the feel I worked, just about everyone, including staff is on some form of psyche medication. A lot of jobs though, would be more difficult.