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An idea

It isn't that I disagree with you in any substantive way, other than that perhaps my experience on the spectrum may not be the same as yours, and thus our perspectives may differ.

However, to explain perhaps: No, I am not suggesting that we all rise up and shove our experiences down the throats of those who aren't like us. As you rightly say, they'd largely not be interested, and would hardly be likely to listen.

And you are also right that there are professional organisations, charities etc to help get our message over, but I think my point would be, that where, but us, do they get their understanding from? They have managed, largely, by studying us and drawing conclusions, in pretty much the same way that Asperger himself did, but we can add our voices to their observations, and give them a far better idea of who we are in the process.

My point, largely, was that there are ears out there that are receptive to us in ways that perhaps was not the case even a few years ago, and those are the ones we can (and in my view, should) be reaching.

But I also respect the fact that some among us have struggled with a life on the spectrum, and that finding peace and perhaps settling into a form of acceptance of it are better objectives than wider education. I certainly don't mean any form of criticism if you feel that way!

Thanks, and yes our experiences of being on the spectrum and perspectives will be different, but I think that’s part of the problem. The spectrum has now become so wide with vast differences between one end and the other it’s very difficult for people on the street to understand. It might make clinicians and assessors jobs easier now, but that’s no help to us.

I never say I have autism because I’m of an age when having autism equated to low function and what went with that. Also the Aspergers or high functioning end equated to in general, not needing a caregiver, being verbal, potentially able to hold down a job and be independent etc. Just to be clear I in no way consider myself better or worse than anyone else, what i mean is that for people on the street if I said I had autism, they would say no you don’t! If I said I’m on the high functioning end of a spectrum and I gave examples of my difficulties, as Fridgemagnetman said, and as I’ve been told “everyone’s a bit like that” so it becomes incredibly annoying and frustrating. I could could carry around a laminated copy of my assessment and diagnosis papers as ‘proof’ but why should I?

I don’t know why you think they study us or draw any conclusions, I think people couldn’t care less and we are one of a plethora of ‘special interest’ groups jockeying for a place on the league table of the worthy, and the way I see it we are near the bottom. There are people such as Lucy who are interested and receptive to us, but I don’t think we should we should reach out or seek them, I think we should treat them fairly and with compassion when they reach out to us.
 
we are one of a plethora of ‘special interest’ groups jockeying for a place on the league table of the worthy, and the way I see it we are near the bottom

I wasn't the goalkeeper was I?
I thought you were in goal.

Wait.
Where are these matches held?
Is it an automatic loss if we get the dates wrong?
This is worse than herding cats.

Do we even have a manager?
:)
 
I wasn't the goalkeeper was I?
I thought you were in goal.

Wait.
Where are these matches held?
Is it an automatic loss if we get the dates wrong?
This is worse than herding cats.

Do we even have a manager?
:)

Haha you crack me up!
No I would be no use in goal, I would be more interested in the geometry in the netting and how the superstructure behind the stadium was built to care about grown men in little trousers kicking a ball, I find the enthusiasm behind it bizarre!

As for where the matches are held does it matter, we wouldn’t turn up to play anyway there would be far too many people there, it would be a nightmare. If we lose who cares, it’s a total waste of time anyway I have far more interesting things to do! :-)
 
I find that I am frequently taken advantage of, have been all my life, am now.
I feel that if more NT's were aware of the specifics of my mental make-up, it would be a nightmare.
No, I do not wish to put that power in ANYONE'S hands.
I'll deal with my difficulties, enjoy the benefits of my intellect, and share only with those I truly feel I can trust.
 
Thanks, and yes our experiences of being on the spectrum and perspectives will be different, but I think that’s part of the problem. The spectrum has now become so wide with vast differences between one end and the other it’s very difficult for people on the street to understand. It might make clinicians and assessors jobs easier now, but that’s no help to us.

I never say I have autism because I’m of an age when having autism equated to low function and what went with that. Also the Aspergers or high functioning end equated to in general, not needing a caregiver, being verbal, potentially able to hold down a job and be independent etc. Just to be clear I in no way consider myself better or worse than anyone else, what i mean is that for people on the street if I said I had autism, they would say no you don’t! If I said I’m on the high functioning end of a spectrum and I gave examples of my difficulties, as Fridgemagnetman said, and as I’ve been told “everyone’s a bit like that” so it becomes incredibly annoying and frustrating. I could could carry around a laminated copy of my assessment and diagnosis papers as ‘proof’ but why should I?

I don’t know why you think they study us or draw any conclusions, I think people couldn’t care less and we are one of a plethora of ‘special interest’ groups jockeying for a place on the league table of the worthy, and the way I see it we are near the bottom. There are people such as Lucy who are interested and receptive to us, but I don’t think we should we should reach out or seek them, I think we should treat them fairly and with compassion when they reach out to us.

I agree entirely - the spectrum encompasses so much variety that it is very hard to really grasp what being on it means, and when many of us don't really understand it, it isn't hard to realise that the 'person on the street' simply can't really be expected to.

My experience as an Aspie exposed me to a great deal of very abusive treatment, but that was before I (or they) knew I was on the spectrum. If those people had known, I doubt it would have changed their behaviours or attitude, so in that respect, being on the spectrum has been a very negative experience. However, since I have known I am an Aspie, my experience of others' attitudes and behaviours has been quite positive, so I have not the same reticence to identify myself as such as you do. That said, I respect the choice you make, and understand the reason you make it, so it is not that I believe you to be wrong in any way.

For me, I have no problem with my employer knowing, and in fact it has helped me a great deal that they do know in that it has increased their trust in my capabilities and focus on my work, and reduced their need to monitor me. Likewise, my partner, now wife, also knows, not least because she is also on the spectrum, and thus knowing I am helps her understand me better. I would have to say also that if a potential partner were to react badly to knowing I'm an Aspie, it wouldn't be someone I'd want to be with anyway, and a relationship wouldn't be functionally possible because whether I have that label attached or not, I'm still exactly who I am.

All that said, I am and have been very fortunate in life, work and even to some degree relationships, so ultimately it's inevitable that I see these issues from a different perspective.

As to those who study us, we, as a group, have been the target of studies over the years by many people and groups, largely by people who don't have a clear idea who we are, and who have drawn all kinds of conclusions about what autism is and what it does. These days, there are far more autism-friendly researchers than there have been before, so that where in the past many people have talked about us, now far more are prepared to talk to us. In its own right, that's a significant change in the wider attitude to autism.

Anyway, despite the difference in perspective, I greatly appreciate your comments and insights, and the time it has taken to explain your views!
 
@AO1501

You may want to take a look at an online source, related to people writing about the daily physical and psychological struggles that they experience.

It appears to be personal accounts of people. The site is known as, The Mighty. https://themighty.com/topic/autism-spectrum-disorder/ and there are 2905 written accounts by people with autism spectrum disorder. There are many other topics including rare diseases, mental health, disabilities on that particular site.

I began seeing the articles recently on one or two popular websites. And I was surprised that these particular sites ran them. As the comments section of these sites are particularly dominated by malcontents.

My point is that the only reason I wanted to know about autism originally, was because my husband was diagnosed. So I did the research, and discovered I also have many of the traits. I looked into it out of interest. Yet I don't know that there are many people who would do so unless they had a specific reason, related to a family member or close friend or were in a relationship with someone they suspect to be on the spectrum.

It is a good idea to make people more aware of autism. But it might be better rather than running specific personal accounts. To inform the media, when they write an account of someone with autism, to consult with a group who live with and understand autism. Perhaps an autism lobby group of some sort, formed to counter the often misinformed press who write without knowledge of the condition. So for example if there's a press article about someone who's alleged to have autism, it would be important for people with autism to correct the inaccuracies that occur. Helping us to have a voice in things that are written about people on the spectrum for the general public.
 

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