Ancient Nerd Who's Brand-New To All This

[Tyer]

I don't understand the question here. I've dabbled in computer programming for most of my life and watched as new languages have been created.

Sorry, I didnt mean to confuse you.
My error, I thought maybe your input meant the topic was to complicated to 'list' it down so quickly. So I tried to ask if I was too naive.

 

[Kavigant]

Ohhh, hell yeah.
what brought you into that field?

I've always been fascinated by language and communication and I've long had a love of the English language. But my interest in conlangs started the first time I read the Lord of the Rings. I found that Tolkien's use of fictional languages seemed consistent enough to mean that they were actual languages.

From there I studied Esperanto and learned it well enough to have conversations with a local Esperanto club. Then I started studying the history and aims of existing conlangs. After a while, the language called Toki Pona (which only has around 150 canonical words) caught my eye. It's designed to be simple and to have a positive outlook. Its structure, however, and its simplicity really make you have to rethink some of your assumptions about what you are trying to say.

Sonja Lang, the creator of Toki Pona, also created a set of symbols which can also be used to write the language, as have a few others.

 

[Kavigant]

If i remember right, Tolkien was also into theology. His work was influenced by it.

Tolkien was a devout Catholic, much as C.S. Lewis was a devout Protestant Christian. There is much Christian symbolism in both of their works even though its not heavy-handed or preachy. Their faiths informed the very ordered moral universe their characters inhabit.

 

[Tyer]

I've always been fascinated by language and communication and I've long had a love of the English language. But my interest in conlangs started the first time I read the Lord of the Rings. I found that Tolkien's use of fictional languages seemed consistent enough to mean that they were actual languages.

From there I studied Esperanto and learned it well enough to have conversations with a local Esperanto club. Then I started studying the history and aims of existing conlangs. After a while, the language called Toki Pona (which only has around 150 canonical words) caught my eye. It's designed to be simple and to have a positive outlook. Its structure, however, and its simplicity really make you have to rethink some of your assumptions about what you are trying to say.

Sonja Lang, the creator of Toki Pona, also created a set of symbols which can also be used to write the language, as have a few others.

Youre right.

Fascinating.
I...I dont even know how to reply. But it made me very happy to read that.

 

[Tyer]

Tolkien was a devout Catholic, much as C.S. Lewis was a devout Protestant Christian. There is much Christian symbolism in both of their works even though its not heavy-handed or preachy. Their faiths informed the very ordered moral universe their characters inhabit.

I like your magic words, Franx.

 

[Kavigant]

I've also studied a number of real-world languages such as Spanish, German, Japanese, Hebrew, etc. but real languages tend to be associated with nations and nations tend to have politics. And politics just gets in the way of so much.

 

[Rodafina]

Welcome @Fraxinus.

Looks like you are settling in and figuring things out just fine. Lovely to have you here.

 

[Tyer]

I've also studied a number of real-world languages such as Spanish, German, Japanese, Hebrew, etc. but real languages tend to be associated with nations and nations tend to have politics. And politics just gets in the way of so much.

True.

I can speak german.
Im interested in learning hebrew...what do you think can be the most difficulties?

 

[Jumpinbare]

Jump! You did?

People here are so cool.
You're all so awesome

Yes sir.
For this book: https://www.amazon.com/World-Gate-B...x=worldgate+book+one,digital-text,6599&sr=1-1

 

[Kavigant]

True.

I can speak german.
Im interested in learning hebrew...what do you think can be the most difficulties?

For most folks, from what I hear, any language with a different writing system will often be more difficult. In addition, as you may already know, Hebrew (for adults) is written without vowels, so you end up relying upon context much more often to know which word is meant as well as how it is pronounced. (and, for the dyslexics out there: I can also imagine Modern Hebrew's alphabet presenting additional problems to dyslexics, as so many of its consonants resemble each other)

I've always wondered how Yiddish sounds to native German speakers. They're both descended from High German , though Yiddish is written with Hebrew letters. I imagine that Yiddish sounds too earthy and vulgar to German-speakers.

 

[Tyer]

Yes sir.
For this book: https://www.amazon.com/World-Gate-Book-One-Elo-ebook/dp/B009FHOPIW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1U9EHQ2YNDS57&keywords=world+gate+book+one&qid=1696638520&s=digital-text&sprefix=worldgate+book+one,digital-text,6599&sr=1-1

...man...now I even like you more.
Im definetly going to read it.

 

[Tyer]

For most folks, from what I hear, any language with a different writing system will often be more difficult. In addition, as you may already know, Hebrew (for adults) is written without vowels, so you end up relying upon context much more often to know which word is meant as well as how it is pronounced. (and, for the dyslexics out there: I can also imagine Modern Hebrew's alphabet presenting additional problems to dyslexics, as so many of its consonants resemble each other)

I've always wondered how Yiddish sounds to native German speakers. They're both descended from High German , though Yiddish is written with Hebrew letters. I imagine that Yiddish sounds too earthy and vulgar to German-speakers.

Im dyslexic...yeah....this is gonna be even more fun. Haha...haa.... (A little tiny bit of sarcasm.)

Well, this kinda motivates me even more.
Thank you, franx.

the yiddish question...thats a good one.
Would be interesting to know.
(Im not german, I can speak it well. Grew up with it. But Im not native German. So, I hope, I dont offend anyone.)
Yiddish sounds to me like...some words are easy to understand and some leave you hanging.
Its kinda fast, so as soon as you figured out its just fast, more words get clear.
But there are still parts that sound like one with an accent speaks german. (It reminds me like a mix of a frech speaking person trying to speak german. And an american trying to imitate an german accent.)
It doesnt sound really vulgar to me, more... like a dialect. Well, I guess some still would find it vulgar.

 

[VictorR]

Welcome! Glad to see you've jumped right into things, and many of the interests you listed, as you're likely aware, are more common for those on the spectrum.

 

[Progster]

Hi, I also enjoy learning languages and find linguistics interesting. There was another member here a while ago, @tripleU, who made his own conlang.

 

[Tom]

Welcome!