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Are any of you ahead because u are ND?

Aspychata

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I have made some decisions in life that netted a payoff. So l feel okay about being ND. What's your take? Do you see that your analytical skills took you farther then a random stranger who doesn't use logic as a part of their sandbox tool?
This isn't meant to discredit NT's who also visit our site.
 
No. I've always felt inferior to NTs and ashamed of who I am (not saying all autistic people are inferior as a fact, I'm just saying how I feel).
 
In some ways yes, in some ways, no. Trade offs and compromises. I would just say my life would be different. I don't know if it would be better or worse. As the old saying goes, "You have to play the hand that is dealt to you."

I was blessed and cursed with a deeply seeded need to understand how things work, and when I say this, I read and try to get hands-on experience with everything and anything. I will do just about anything once. I am also a perfectionist, so even if I have no idea of how to do things, I will take the time to understand all the nuances and finer details of what I am looking at or am trying to do. I love doing research, tinkering, playing around with things, experimenting, and I am not afraid of making mistakes. I have had a very long list of special interests over the years and I will take deep dives into all of them. So, over the decades, I have gained a lot of working knowledge on a rather broad range of subjects. All of this, I attribute to my autism. If I were born neurotypical, I am not sure I would have these characteristics and I would be significantly less knowledgeable, putting me at a disadvantage in life.

If I were neurotypical, I might have a better working understanding of people, how to verbally communicate well, how to "read" people better. I might be more socially active and have more true friends. I wouldn't have persistent tinnitus, nor Visual Snow Syndrome. I might have better fine motor skills. I might not have an overreactive immune system reaction to injuries and infections. I might not have daily bouts with what appears to be mild cerebral edema, a low grade internal pressure inside my skull that makes my head feel hot and flushed. There are things that I just live with now that I likely would not have if I were born neurotypical. Physically and socially, I think I would be better off.

It just would be different.
 
I've had a fantastic life that most people could only ever dream of. I've had a few rough patches here and there but overall I have been healthier, wealthier and happier than most of my NT contemporaries.

Once I realised a typical pattern of life wasn't going to work for me and I should instead just follow my own path I began to really enjoy life. I have had more experiences in life than most people can imagine.

I was a highly skilled and very talented tradesman in a trade that was in very high demand. This meant I was paid well and treated well by employers and it also gave me the freedom to travel. Here our health care is not linked to employment, in fact it's illegal for employers to use health cover as an inducement, so I can and did just change jobs at the drop of a hat. I travelled my country on a working holiday that lasted for 30 years.

I've been a highly social and very popular man in fashionable parts of large cities, I've lived in quiet little country towns where all the people are friendly, I've even lived as a half wild man, barefoot and naked chasing my lunch through the rainforests.

I grew up in an era before we had computers, internet, and mobile phones. So my hobbies were fast cars, big bikes, (not a harley fan) surfing, downhill skiing, parties and girls. So I owned and played with a few V8s back in the days before police had radar and cameras. I was always very active and very fit and socially very active.

Even when I burnt out and ran away into the bush I had a great time. It was a very hard and dangerous life but I have a mind that copes with that much more easily than it does with the social expectations of a society. And when hunting my hypersensitive hearing and smell gave me great advantages.

Money never had much meaning to me in life, I don't understand the point of owning more than you need. I've always had what I needed and I've never suffered privation. I also don't understand the concepts of fashion or luxury. I'm a great fan of personal comfort but appearances and other people's perceptions are for the most part completely meaningless to me.

I am now living the retirement plan that I had formed when I was still only in my early 20s. When I decided it was time I acted on that plan, to get a diagnosis for my mental illness and use that diagnosis to get a full pension and social housing. I never had any intention of owning my own home and in old age it's possibly a bad idea too. Because I don't own this place someone else is responsible for it's maintenance and upkeep.

A combination of the unique way in which my mind works, social skills I learnt as a young man, and a natural charisma that I was born with I have always found it reasonably easy to just do whatever I want in life and there seems to be very few obstacles for me. Even to get my retirement plan working seemed fairly straight forward.

Even now I find life incredibly easy. I'm officially retired and have no responsibilities of any kind, my time is my own and I can do as I please. I'm also now financially better off than I have been at any other point in my life, most Aussies on a pension whinge and complain that they don't get enough money, I don't know what to do with all the money they give me. I live like a king and still manage to save $10K a year.

Yes, I believe my autism played a huge role in my life and gave me many advantages just not available to most people. I've had a phat time.
 
I'm not gonna write much - read what Neonatal RRT and Outdated have said, and add my name to the list.

If I try to be what other people think I should be, it's hell.

If I live by my own lights, it's so much "me" that it's heaven.

Because I have to do BOTH, it can be a very mixed bag of feels.
 
I know “high functioning” doesn’t really mean anything. But it’s true I’m certainly one to get things done. My supervisor often compliments me on how productive I am at work.
 
I know “high functioning” doesn’t really mean anything.
There's conflicting definitions of High Functioning. In diagnostic terms it seems to refer mostly to our ability to fit in with society where as I and many other people associate the term with the many different gifts that come with our autism.
 
There's no set symptoms for any functioning levels but the way I see it if you compared me to a non-verbal autistic adult who needs care then I'll be as opposite to them as black is to white.
 
I just look at such considerations in terms of "knowledge being power". That is, the more I know equally about being ND and understanding the NT world relative to me neurologically, that the better off I am.

So it's a sort of equilibrium to me, rather than the express it in terms of weighting one or the other.

I see my own executive functioning skills as being rather high, but I don't necessarily attribute it to my being autistic, either. I did a job for nearly 20 years (insurance underwriting) requiring such skills, and in retrospect my fellow underwriters were all NTs with the possible exception of one other person in my department.

Yet I still lag in terms of social skills, and always will. I can accept that just as much as having to balance socialization with solitude.

"Yin & Yang"....balance and counterbalances in the universe. And that it's supposed to be as such. Perhaps when"breaking even" is the real intention rather than "getting ahead" of it all. Life being ultimately a series of both "peaks and valleys" for us all.
 
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My ability to focus and make connections to use my skills and experience has helped me immesurably in carving out a decent life for myself. There was much socially that I struggled with and has been a great source of dissapointment for me though I persevered and was able to attract and have a loving relationship with my spouse.

All in all, I am satisfied with my life.
 
Yes, regardless of what condition or conditions I have, where I feel totally different from most typical persons, I feel I am often one step ahead of others because of my thoroughness and uniqueness. I have an ability to analyze myself, societal issues and others well too. This is partly because of my extreme attention to detail, but also because of strong logical and organizational skills, high empathy, strong tolerance for stress, self-motivation, an ability to pick up on nonverbal cues well and my very keen senses that I do not see as a hindrance but each as beneficial and in solving problems and in me understanding and in making the right decisions.

I can not only figure myself well, and know precisely what I did wrong, did right and can do better at, I feel I can understand the causes of many societal and other issues, too, without even needing others input, but despite this I will always use research, rack my brain thinking all angles out, and use others' information to confirm or to make sure I was not missing something, and to try to cause me to think about some topic more, as I need to be comprehensive and see all sides for every subject to feel I put enough effort there and to give fair input there. I think I know how to solve many problems to my liking thus because of my abilities to sort fact from opinions and fiction, and by digging deeper and not assuming things, and by using my strong efforts, empathy and other mentioned skills those occasions where that is needed..

Since a very young child I remember questioning everything and wanting to make sense of everything. Every move others did or did not do, every word they spoke or did not speak, every posture, facial expression or not I saw as an opportunity to learn something, to see if something was off or made sense. I knew then and now things can be hidden, even in myself, and I had a need to find out those answers. Whereas others talked and learned perhaps mostly that way from what the other said and/or learned mostly by readings, I did that but also watched and analyzed everything about people, their communications and interactions, batting around ideas in my head, putting into context the environments and any details I knew beforehand too.

I needed not only to be perfectionistic, structured, analytical and detailed, remember everything, and to be one step ahead, not just because of any genetics, but likely because of environmental conditioning too. To prevent danger and to get basic needs met, I needed to process things quicker, have more clarity, be emotionally stronger, and to react to abuses in my own ways to not make things worse. I needed to anticipate fights and confrontations in advance, know exactly what to do when they occurred. I needed to figure out why my parents did such, know what my siblings could be going through in different or similar ways, by looking at how they responded in that environment and other ones, and by inspecting what they did and did not do. I needed to then avoid persons but to learn from a distance.

You likely notice on this forum my posts are lengthy. It is not because of any extra attention need or ego boost, as I post not too often and as I shy away from the limelight. I am often hiding in the shadows, assisting someone behind the scenes. The reason I am long in messages is not to annoy others either, nor to get replies, as rare do I get or expect replies anyway and as I assume many will not read what I wrote anyway because of length or as maybe they feel so different than I, do not disagree much, or for other reason.. Regardless, I feel I cannot stop often explaining things in detail, and as it is because I have to look beneath and explain often why for important statements I make. Each word others say and feeling they convey is important, so it needs a sincere reply with my efforts, to give my own unique point of view, if not to assist the op, then perhaps at least one other. There are not simple statements thus I could make that could often exhaust any topic with justice, to my standards. The search for the truth and to explain well requires comprehension, many details and insights and sound reasoning, not just quick facts, opinions which help, but often can be misleading or have a need to be inquired about or be scrutinized further.

I feel different from most persons in that I feel I have the right balance of structure, knowledge, creativity and empathy, and nothing bothers me much, or for long. I can learn from all wrongs no matter how big or small, and I can feel varying emotions but often not to extreme levels to make things harder. I feel others or events do not determine my happiness, as I feel I have the means to solve many issues to my liking, to support others if need be from what I sense, and to think and feel more neutral or positively as I want about most negative situations, or for sad situations too, after any learning or support occurs. By focusing on my efforts, allowing myself to be different, and by seeing every situation as a learning opportunity to be better, I think I have the right mindset now, which contrasted much who I was through my twenties. So, I think I am somewhat rare in that I went through a lot of bad through my youth and early adult life, but see mostly good now, and as I was able to change much too.

Also, like the average person has lots of debt, because of car and/or house loans and credit card debt, yet we have zero debt, a new car paid off, a home about fifteen years old paid off, college loans paid off, a near perfect credit card score, a peaceful home setting with acreage, and we can save each month for the future, despite no need to then even work around others. So, I am not about to complain, as even when I was for twenty years living alone I saw much peace and good, and after having a wife and children, with my wife smart enough to see my abilities to give me that chance despite no job those years. My practical and other abilities and in solving our own issues and getting our own needs met through other ways means more to me than any job could. Why stress myself out following others' company rules and/or making others rich, even if now able, and when I am more of an independent thinker and leader than follower in my own ways anyway, and when I need to be there for my children and wife.

So, yeah, I do not see any ND condition I have as bad, nor does our oldest Autistic son focus on that stuff. He sees his strengths too. Yes, he has many differences too from typical persons, but they are not limitations but just who he is he feels. He focuses on his efforts too. Whereas he has certain more special interests, and other things can be more challenging but he sees that as natural or more motivating, I seem to have not one nor just a few hyperfocuses, as I would and do tend to do well with whatever many things I tried and try if many persons were or are not near where I can concentrate, and as I often want to try new things and be my best for everything.

And like another has said too, my visualization skills are great as well. I can visualize anything, and I can even imagine tasting foods as if I were actually eating them, smelling items as if I really smelled them, hearing objects with precise accuracy whenever I want with a quick thought there, and like feeling like I touched some object when I think of that. I think many with ND conditions have potential superpowers untapped inside if not already are showing those. Too often those with Autism or related conditions are defined by stereotypes or by some one or more talents. I think that does many of us injustice.
 
Yes, I feel like I am ahead. Lots of different difficult skills. It has drawbacks, lots of emotional suffering, but in my opinion it pays off, because I won't suffer forever. I second that wanting to be like everyone else is one of the main causes of the suffering.
 
My attention to detail per my day job (that pays more of the bills and has insurance) is exactly, precisely done and maintained and seriously keeps people alive everyday. I think anyone could learn to do this same job, but I think that by being so OCD and caring as I am to never fail, it certainly helps.
 
Hmm... maybe? Actually for the most part, I feel mostly average. Maybe there are some things I have an advantage on (I feel no need to attempt to fit in to a societal role so I feel I'm able to see things as they are), however that comes with a cost - I am quite isolated and have trouble fitting in with others. This makes life both easier and more difficult at the same time.
 
My NEED to understand everything certainly influenced me to lean toward science and technology, which has served me well financially. In my retired life now, I have so many areas of interest that there is no question of staying busy both mentally and physically.
So in every physical sense, I have come out ahead. Socially, there is no question I have fewer friends and socially related activities than Most NT folks. I do not miss what I never had.

So I would conclude that yes, I am ahead of the curve overall due to my NDness.
 
I've been ahead. Could be now, depending on where you want to set the bar. I'm ahead of most Americans but that's not saying much these days.

In the end, the ND abilities are negated by NT management. If there's an NT option, that's who they're going with.
 
I've taken a lot of courses over the years, noticed ND, tend to make better senior managers, out of the box thinkers. the trick is to climb the lower ranks our lack of socialization skills holds us back. I gave it my best shot. If I had known
or been diagnosed would not have been driven, trying to climb the ladder, changing positions. The extra effort made me a world class expert, frustrating, no complaints now.
 
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I have made some decisions in life that netted a payoff. So l feel okay about being ND. What's your take? Do you see that your analytical skills took you farther then a random stranger who doesn't use logic as a part of their sandbox tool?
This isn't meant to discredit NT's who also visit our site.

To answer your question, yes and no

How do I explain this?

Intellectually maybe, although I recognize my limitations and I understand there is so much for me to learn

Social wise, no. I know social skills is not my strength and not something I’m interested in improving, though I do so it makes no sense

I don’t really focus on others. I’m not dissing anyone because I have no time of energy for extra stuff
 

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