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Belonging

Raggamuffin

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Have you ever felt like you truly belonged? If so, when and where was this?

A common theme is not feeling like you fit in, so I wonder if it was a certain time, place, or company that helped you feel like you fitted in?

Sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place with where I live, the job I'm in, the people I socialise with etc. So a sense of belonging is calling out to me, but as ever - not sure where it can be found.

Ed
 
I felt like I belonged when my spouse and I met a woman from our area on a backpack trip in the Black Hills. She invited us over to show trip sldes and introduced us to other outdoor enthusiasts who were all interesting and accepting. Sharing experiences with them and I felt that I belonged. We support each other.

When I had a double compound tib-fib with 4 surgeries, they would visit to cheer me up. Once a friend and I spent an evening with a dear friend suffering from esophageal cancer who died a week later and I feel good about having that time with him.
 
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Never in the social sense. But I think the closest I ever felt was in Iceland. Low population, very friendly and laidback people, good food, amazing naturescapes, clean air... did I mention low population :p? After my visit I can see why it's considered one of the happiest countries. I'm sure there are other places that are great too, but right now this is at the top of my pedestal.
 
I have, many times. But I have to say it was something I worked on a lot from very early in life. I saw it as something of a survival skill. It often involved masking to different degrees as it was almost always in NT groups, and also often required getting into the heads of the group, picking up on their perspective. Belonging for me is almost synonomous with being 'accepted'. So I often morphed into some form that would gain acceptance while retaining some semblence of my natural self.

The ones that stand out to me most, were those when I was furthest culturally from the group. Early on this could be being the only white kid in a black and hispanic group. Later, living out of the country it was finding a niche in a group of a different nationality. There are different flavors, but the basic humanity is the same.
 
The only thing that comes to mind out of my life is an autism zoom group I belong to for autistic (or self-diagnosed) adults. They're my friends; they're my "peeps" and I belong there. Other than that, no.
 
Its rare for me to feel that. Even in places I feel like I "belong" there's still the element of "other" or "separate" that lingers. So far, the one place I feel truly at home is in a martial arts studio, or a barn. Other than that, its a struggle. Oh, I also find myself feeling at home in mental health circles too. Seems I'm a theoretical psychologist but without the credentials, so anytime I get together with other mental/behavioral health pros and we talk shop, I feel like I really belong in that group. Outside of these few situations/locations, I really struggle with FEELING like I really belong.
 
How much you feel like you belong has a great deal to do with your own beliefs and way of thinking. When I saw myself as different than everyone else (due to being autistic), I hardly ever felt like I belonged. After I started viewing autism as just a small part of who I am or separate from who I am, I no longer felt like I was different than everyone else which made it much easier to feel like I belonged.

The key to feeling like you belong is focusing on what you have in common with other people (such as shared interests or values) while minimizing or not focusing too much on any differences (autism doesn't make you different since we're all unique which means we're all different from everyone else in some way).
 
At my family reunions in my early years. I didn't have a concept of difference or that people didn't like me. It was just family.

I still have it with my friend.
 
I haven't ever really felt it in groups but I have with certain individuals that I have a close relationship with.
 
Never. Not much else to say that I haven't said before. That recurring feeling of always being on the outside looking in.

Though it continues to fascinate me in how some people become fixated over mass authoritarian movements of one kind or another. Those who actively pursue being a part of something mostly to give them some sense of belonging.
 
Though it continues to fascinate me in how some people become fixated over mass authoritarian movements of one kind or another. Those who actively pursue being a part of something mostly to give them some sense of belonging.


^ I find this trend that's really gained momentum in the last 10 years or so interesting as well. Social media has made it easy for people to feel they "belong to something to give them a sense of belonging" with near zero effort. But, at what costs?....

In past generations people belonged to groups and organizations like churches, clubs such as the Masons, Owls, etc. Now people just comment on Facebook or tweet their solidarity to mass movements or manufactured outrage related to current issues of the day and equally trash others who don't believe the same thing and by doing so, they feel that they belong to something. In a way it makes sense (even though it's sad) for a lot of people today acting like that since most people don't even know their own neighbors let alone belong to actual groups/organizations anymore. Let's call those with this new yearning to belong by posting their virtues on social media as the "cyber-righteous". I'll take credit for coining that new term since I don't see it on a googs search.
 
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There are two places I really feel like I fit in and belong:

With other people in the dog community,
and here, on this forum. :)
 
I never feel like I fit in. But I've been on this earth for sometime now and I just don't look for that feeling of fitting in any more.
In fact, I quit asking "do I fit, am I accepted?" some time ago. I find, if I don't ask the question, I am not disapointed by the answer.
I have the audacity to be where I am simply because I am. I refuse to empower anyone to need more from me.

That reminds me: one time my ex husband and I were fighting and I said to him "You don't get paid more to be the boss. Don't take on the extra work!"

Don't give others the "authority" over you.
 
I think belonging and fitting in are two different things. I've never been particularly interested in fitting in - why would you want to fit into a particular social group if they bully others, or into a political movement that does the same, or any kind of group that has significant dysfunctions in it? And when you have a group of accepting people, they don't get insecure about differences, especially benign differences around ethnicity, eccentricity, gender, sexuality, cultural differences, etc. Then you don't have to "fit in" because your differences are accepted and often embraced too.

But only emotionally healthy people can do this, and that's why it's not the norm. Most people are emotionally quite immature, even when they're older, and feel threatened by differences, and play "us versus them" etc. It's best not to hang around people like this too much, and to find safe and kind people to socialise with first and foremost. Then we are in a good position to deal with difficult people who may be emotionally immature or just plain nasty. That's when approaches such as in the book mentioned in another thread, on calm assertiveness, can come in really helpful. Plus, remembering that we are all imperfect and works in progress, and we don't know anyone's history just by looking at them.

So I've always just wanted to be me, from the time I was little, and to make my own mistakes and learn for myself and to say what I think and feel, without playing games around it. I'm not "in the norm" - I'm an outlier, and though I'm not NT I also don't fit comfortably into Aspie, with which I share traits. I don't feel any particular nationality even though my passport says I'm Australian - I'm an immigrant and I first and foremost just feel human, and like an international citizen. I don't fit comfortably into any kind of box, pretty much with anything.

But that stuff doesn't actually concern me. I don't think it helps to put people into little boxes, we're all individuals and along continuums in all sorts of ways. The boxes tend to create an "us versus them" outlook. I prefer to think of people as being people and having qualities, not being box XYZ.

So no, I wouldn't want to "fit in" - too much has to get trimmed off to do that, and that would actually diminish me, and my interactions with others, and what I can do in this world. (Note I'm not talking about cultivating negative qualities like being cut-throat and ruthless or purposely disrespectful and uncaring and unkind etc, which I wouldn't think was right. Just being me.)

But belonging, that's a good thing. So depending on what's around me, and whether I feel welcome, and accepted, and useful, I feel like I belong or I don't.

I've always felt I belonged in nature - unconditionally, whenever I went out there (being lucky enough to grow up near some really wild areas). I did not feel at any point that I belonged in my family of origin, who were really dysfunctional - there was a lot of emotional starvation and all kinds of abuse, including physical and psychological. Most of my emotional and social needs and quite a few physical needs went unmet there. I was raised by people who were emotionally immature and narcissistic as a result. My older sibling was the golden child and I was basically Cinderella.

It takes a long time and a lot of hindsight to come to terms with your own family story. I think I was incredibly lucky that a child isn't just raised by its parents, but by the village, so to speak, and I had good people in my "village" growing up. So there were significant adults who were warm and supportive and really good role models, like my Grade 1/2 teacher, a good number of my high school teachers, various neighbours, and the parents of childhood friends. Also I did have a warm relationship with my grandmother (who lived a distance away, and then sadly we emigrated when I was 11 and only saw her one more time, but we corresponded until she died). Whenever we were in Italy, the whole village there saw kids as belonging to them (Italians and children!:)) and I had many great experiences with warm safe adults making me welcome. And in those situations I felt like I belonged.

Workplaces, depends on the attitudes of the people there. If there's a critical mass of people who have their hearts in the right place, I readily feel like I belong. If not, not. I usually felt like I belonged when I was in a classroom teaching high schoolers, which I did for about 15 years - because most of the time I was able to create a safe and warm environment with good boundaries where students could be respected as human beings and therefore thrive. And then you can all have so much fun and learning on all sorts of levels, including the curriculum! :) I loved really connecting with people in my care and learning from them too. Also the sense of wonder a lot of young people have about the universe, and the social and relationships learning and existential stuff that you get to contribute to. Mind you, that doesn't happen in all schools because they're varied ecosystems, but I was lucky that it happened over 50% of the time for me, and that was really worth it, and I truly felt like I belonged, in those instances. Right place, right time, mutually beneficial, good relationships, productive and joyous.

I feel I belong when I'm with animals, and I feel like I belong when I'm with my partner, at least 95% of the time (as all of us also have difficult things to deal with in relationships). I feel like I belong when I listen to good music or read a good book (and I see that as part of the "village"). I feel like I belong when I meet up with good friends, or when I host nice guests on our eco-farm.

Many people on this forum have gone out of their way to be kind and inclusive to me and even though I am new here it is already giving me a sense of belonging. :cool:
 
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I felt comfortable and at ease to be me with my parents.
No one else, because, you don't know anyone else to the degree of someone with whom
you've lived with since birth.

You have to learn the personailty of others, how they react, can you trust what they say,
do you have shared interests and wants, on and on.
Can't really know anyone unless you grew up with them.

Life has not been easy, financially and physically.
But, having two people that I felt loved by and accepted by sure helped the rough times.
Groups or feeling the herd desire to congregate, no.
Never felt that desire.
Some people I instantly feel at ease talking with and no filter needed.
Most I have no want to associate with.
But, it is all shallow and passes soon.
 
Have you ever felt like you truly belonged? If so, when and where was this?
In no particular order,
  • here,
  • in Mensa & gifted class,
  • to my wife (before her depression),
  • on many 1:6 [playscale] action doll boards &
  • in various churches: Vineyard, Assembly of God & similar non-denominational churches.
 
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The key to feeling like you belong is focusing on what you have in common with other people (such as shared interests or values) while minimizing or not focusing too much on any differences
So very true. And now I'm off to share a common interest in hiking (it's still very cold) with the bike club.

(added) Had a great time. Many were happy to see me. Had some nice conversations along the way. No stress and some exercise on the trail.
 
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Have you ever felt like you truly belonged? If so, when and where was this?

A common theme is not feeling like you fit in, so I wonder if it was a certain time, place, or company that helped you feel like you fitted in?

Sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place with where I live, the job I'm in, the people I socialise with etc. So a sense of belonging is calling out to me, but as ever - not sure where it can be found.

Ed
This forum is the closest I've ever felt to fit in anywhere in my entire life.
 

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