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Burning man?

I do not want to rain on your parade, Chance, but some people at wide open stuff like that do put drugs in food and drinks. I would not like that. Not sure how u feel about it.
I think some ppl w Aspergers could have a very bad time on something like LSD.

You also need to be realistic about how you are doing w your sensory issues lately. The assault on your senses could be bad just from the noise, crowd, and strength of other senses.You mentioned that you think nights might be bad for you and that you want to camp about five miles away. It sounds like u have doubts.

It is a bad idea to do things for someone else. If you really want to go for your own sake, it is different than just for keeping your friend happy.

Think about it and decide what u really want. If YOU really want to go, then go.
 
There is something that draws my attention to it also. Something primal. But, I know it would be too much sensory input. Too many people, too noisey and too much drinking and drugs. I'd pass.
 
My parents always used to joke about Burning Man and I never realised what it was until recently. Looks like a rave with twice the amount of LSD.

I know... It appears as some freakish modern Woodstock until you start learning the back stories.
LEAVE NO TRACE- there are no trash cans, there is zero littering (you pack out all your own trash).
These wild people are very respectful for the environment and for each other.
GIFTING - money equals zero, you take extra supplies to trade for stuff you would like to have
ITS A GIAINT WORK OF ART- people build these beautiful intricate structures The horse, the temple, the man and then burn them down. Its like this giant release of all the crap we hold to as reality.

Sure people make a weird culture out of it, but behind it there are classes on clarity, you learn sharing and co-exiting like no other place. I haven't read a single article on people being violent, or people hating each other... (never saying it doesn't happen) but thats basically the whole purpose of the event.

Its a temporary no harm freedom with no judgement, and a common goal to experience what isnt possible in everyday life. No one is going to force drugs or sex on anyone. I think thats just a more private culture out there but it gets the most publicity. Most people are building stuff and gifting stuff and into the basic role of enjoying the reason to be there (and yes some go to the extreme) but thats kind of freeing to see people do that.

I usually can make my mind up in an instant and stick to it. I have been battling this for over 2 days now.
My friend, and the others who are going are very sane people that I actually trust (which is not easy for me). Jon knows me, and has since I was probably 15 years old. He knows all about my ASD. I feel honored to be invited, but really worried at the same time. He knows what I am going through right now, some marriage issues not going well and haven't ever went well. He is just trying to help me in his own way and I know that.

I feel like a jerk to say no but I feel like I might become a problem for them and myself if I go. I also know its going to cause a s--- storm at home if I go, but I am about done with that I think. We seem to be at that place where our worlds are just too different and it seems she wants out, but wants to destroy me in the process... not good and not what I care to worry over right now.

I am still working on a compromise. My issues are the dirt storms, the alkali dust, being dirty that long... I sometimes take 3 showers a day (yes thats stupid but its just my thing). The next thing is just more stupid. My truck and travel trailer are both relatively new and it just seems wrong to get them so nasty. OCD is showing its nasty head and I know it. In my messed up melon they won't ever clean back up and that is so asinine to worry about crap like that.

Camping is one of my most favorite things in the world, but I'm a fresh mountain stream guy, surrounded by tress and wildlife - this is WILD LIFE 2.0 on steroids and then some... and its like calling me and I am fighting back. Thats why I made this silly post... Its what I call a "tripper" something I get mentally stuck on. I have regrets if I go, but regrets if I don't. LIFE is supposed to be about living, not freaking analyzing everything to death and then analyzing that too. I get really mad at myself over this stuff.

I guess in some dark way I want to be like these people - maybe that is why it calls out to me. Maybe deep down inside I just want to be a wild ass freak for just a little bit, and not worry about all this stuff that keeps me in this mental prison. Sorry for my rambling... Its just me thinking out loud and thats basically insane itself.
 
I do not want to rain on your parade, Chance, but some people at wide open stuff like that do put drugs in food and drinks. I would not like that. Not sure how u feel about it.
I think some ppl w Aspergers could have a very bad time on something like LSD.

You also need to be realistic about how you are doing w your sensory issues lately. The assault on your senses could be bad just from the noise, crowd, and strength of other senses.You mentioned that you think nights might be bad for you and that you want to camp about five miles away. It sounds like u have doubts.

It is a bad idea to do things for someone else. If you really want to go for your own sake, it is different than just for keeping your friend happy.

Think about it and decide what u really want. If YOU really want to go, then go.

You are right and I know that you are right. I think I just want to be "normal" sometimes and it makes me so mad down inside that I cant just go and do something fun because I turn it into a nightmare before I even go. Thank you your very kind... : )
 
There is something that draws my attention to it also. Something primal. But, I know it would be too much sensory input. Too many people, too noisey and too much drinking and drugs. I'd pass.

Susan you said the right word PRIMAL - I think that is this deep down... something that makes this seem so freakishly cool, but also a hot mess. : )
 
Susan you said the right word PRIMAL - I think that is this deep down... something that makes this seem so freakishly cool, but also a hot mess. : )

Sorry for the pop-psych of this. I think u r trying to find an escape both from yourself and your Aspergers and your marriage situation. I think the escape from yourself and your Aspergers is sort of related to the marriage thing now also. I suspect that you are irrationally blaming your marriage difficulties on yourself and your Aspergers.

Going to Burning Man might be ok now if you did not have Aspergers. I also suspect that there is some subconscious connection that if you pretend as if your Aspergers is not an issue it will magically be okay if u go to Burning Man.

I think u do need some space to recover somewhat from your marriage issues, so go camp in a peaceful place instead.

Is it worth considering a negotiation for a no-fault divorce so it does not drag out as long? Can u live in somebody's garage or camp out to get away from your partner until the dust settles, so to speak? I think u r really searching for peace of mind. I hope u find it.
 
I would love to visit Burning Man just once. It's on my bucket list. But I think it's wise of you to consider the sensory issues. I love music festivals too, but I tend to get overwhelmed by the crowds. At festivals that last multiple days, I usually retreat to my tent pretty early in the evening because I'm wiped out. I also get up very early when most people have just crawled into their tents. This way I get to have a moment of quiet contemplation to myself, to recharge . I also like to make sure my tent is in a quiet place. Nothing ramps up the anxiety like strangers stumbling into your tent.
 
As a compromise, would it be possible for you to just go with your friends and leave if it becomes too much? That way, at least you won't have to spend time wondering "what if?"
 
I agree with Bolletje, I would go myself if I thought that I could get away pretty quickly to somewhere quiet and safe with my own space. I've never let my autism be the guiding force in my life. Having done many things, like hitchhiking across canada and the us with a friend and going to outdoor concerts that lasted for days. Hiking some of the long trail by myself, and many other things.

The idea of creating something and then burning it sounds absolutely crazy, but as an artist who's destroyed lots of their own work over the years. I understand the desire to do that. It led the way to changes in my art and my life. It might be something that seems scary or frightening to do in consideration. As I only do change when I don't think about it too much. If I have lots of time to consider the pros and cons I usually end up not making the effort to do something different now. But I wasn't like that when I was younger and wanted to experience many things. Which I did and still have the desire to do, although to a less intense degree, and for different reasons.
 
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Sorry for the pop-psych of this. I think u r trying to find an escape both from yourself and your Aspergers and your marriage situation. I think the escape from yourself and your Aspergers is sort of related to the marriage thing now also. I suspect that you are irrationally blaming your marriage difficulties on yourself and your Aspergers.

Going to Burning Man might be ok now if you did not have Aspergers. I also suspect that there is some subconscious connection that if you pretend as if your Aspergers is not an issue it will magically be okay if u go to Burning Man.

I think u do need some space to recover somewhat from your marriage issues, so go camp in a peaceful place instead.

Is it worth considering a negotiation for a no-fault divorce so it does not drag out as long? Can u live in somebody's garage or camp out to get away from your partner until the dust settles, so to speak? I think u r really searching for peace of mind. I hope u find it.

Hey Alaska,
You make for a good counselor... it's a mess but I will somehow handle it honorably. I don't want to wallow in the situation with my wife, or make her out to be some monster. I love her. She hates me. I cant be what she demands. I tried very hard for a long time to fake it and it is destroying me. I have never asked or demanded anything from anyone. So I don't understand, and I don't understand the threats if I do not conform to be something I don't even know how to be.

It sucks, but it will be okay. I do want her to be happy. They say if you really love someone you free them... So I did and now she is trying to make me some monster who never loved her. I don't understand how a dominate NT's think. I try, but I just cant understand. It makes no sense to me.

ASD is not an easy life for me. I stay quiet and I'm told I am rude. I speak the truth, and I am told I am a heartless asshole... and I don't even see what I said wrong. I'm trying with all I have to do the right thing to not cause trouble, but it seems "the trouble- the stupid drama" is what some people thrive on.
Its like poison to me. Its my kryptonite.

I think I may have a compromise on the trip... Possibly fly in to Reno and rent a car (I'm checking on that now)... My friend is taking his motorhome and 3 other people who I know reasonably well. He said I can crash and burn there all I want. Plus I can leave anytime.

I don't have to stay for all of it... yet the last 3 days is what I want to see. I just want to get out of here for a little bit. I want to be alone, but yet I don't. I just need to think and sort this stuff out, while not drowning in it. My wife is on a rampage. My family is always on some binge, and my best friend is laying in a hospital drugged into a coma dying from brain cancer...

Yes, I am running from stuff right now, but I will come back and deal with it honorably. Black Rock or not I just need to get out of here for a while and soon. I don't want to take any of this with me. If I go camping alone, it will haunt me. Anyone know a good hypnotist who can give me amnesia? Or a monk who can show me how to shut this insufferable brain off for a while? : )

I understand unconditional love with zero problems, but human love - its a total mystery to me.

Thank you so much for your kindness : )
 
Hey Alaska,
You make for a good counselor... it's a mess but I will somehow handle it honorably. I don't want to wallow in the situation with my wife, or make her out to be some monster. I love her. She hates me. I cant be what she demands. I tried very hard for a long time to fake it and it is destroying me. I have never asked or demanded anything from anyone. So I don't understand, and I don't understand the threats if I do not conform to be something I don't even know how to be.

It sucks, but it will be okay. I do want her to be happy. They say if you really love someone you free them... So I did and now she is trying to make me some monster who never loved her. I don't understand how a dominate NT's think. I try, but I just cant understand. It makes no sense to me.

ASD is not an easy life for me. I stay quiet and I'm told I am rude. I speak the truth, and I am told I am a heartless asshole... and I don't even see what I said wrong. I'm trying with all I have to do the right thing to not cause trouble, but it seems "the trouble- the stupid drama" is what some people thrive on.
Its like poison to me. Its my kryptonite.

I think I may have a compromise on the trip... Possibly fly in to Reno and rent a car (I'm checking on that now)... My friend is taking his motorhome and 3 other people who I know reasonably well. He said I can crash and burn there all I want. Plus I can leave anytime.

I don't have to stay for all of it... yet the last 3 days is what I want to see. I just want to get out of here for a little bit. I want to be alone, but yet I don't. I just need to think and sort this stuff out, while not drowning in it. My wife is on a rampage. My family is always on some binge, and my best friend is laying in a hospital drugged into a coma dying from brain cancer...

Yes, I am running from stuff right now, but I will come back and deal with it honorably. Black Rock or not I just need to get out of here for a while and soon. I don't want to take any of this with me. If I go camping alone, it will haunt me. Anyone know a good hypnotist who can give me amnesia? Or a monk who can show me how to shut this insufferable brain off for a while? : )

I understand unconditional love with zero problems, but human love - its a total mystery to me.

Thank you so much for your kindness : )

Welcome. I hope you figure out how to get through all of your difficulties as unscathed as possible. It will get better.
 

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