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Catholic Radio Host Says Enola Holmes Is “The Most Evil Movie To Ever Be Made”

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Greatshield17 said:
You mean, what you think, said Catholics on that radio show believe, not what the Catholic Faith actually teaches.
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This thread will be closed if we discuss this, but the blatant misogyny of the Catholic “faith” is no secret; Catholics just don’t want to call it that (they prefer innocuous terms like “traditional values”).
 
Kalinychta said:
This thread will be closed if we discuss this, but the blatant misogyny of the Catholic “faith” is no secret; Catholics just don’t want to call it that (they prefer innocuous terms like “traditional values”).
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The Catholic Faith teaches that the greatest of all God’s creatures is a human woman, period; the Church is not misogynistic, or any other evil that the left believes, or wants to believe the Church to be guilty of.

The Churches teaches moral goodness, and I will hold to these teachings usque ad mortem.

¡Viva Cristo Rey
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La Reina Inmaculada!
 
I'm going to disagree with Mr. Radio Host and mention the Faces of Death series. Any one of them will do.
 
Greatshield17 said:
Said radio show was for a Catholic audience, not a general audience. Not that it matters that much to me what non-Catholics do with the radio show or movie in question.
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As someone who had the misfortune to attend an all boys school taught by Catholic priests, saw and experienced what went on, NO ONE will silence me or my views!
 
Greatshield17 said:
The Catholic Faith teaches that the greatest of all God’s creatures is a human woman, period; the Church is not misogynistic, or any other evil that the left believes, or wants to believe the Church to be guilty of.

The Churches teaches moral goodness, and I will hold to these teachings usque ad mortem.

¡Viva Cristo Rey
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La Reina Inmaculada!
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Okay well, on the day that women are,—for example,—allowed to become Catholic priests and birth control isn’t considered a mortal sin, I’ll re-examine my position.

Glad the religion has had great meaning for you in, though.
 
Kalinychta said:
Okay well, on the day that women are,—for example,—allowed to become Catholic priests and birth control isn’t considered a mortal sin, I’ll re-examine my position.

Glad the religion has had great meaning for you in, though.
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By the way, while not No. 1 on the lists of reasons why I’m Catholic, the Church’s firm stance on birth-control is one of the key things that convinces me that the Catholic Faith is true. In fact it’s one of the few things I could be able to speak out openly in defense with zero fear, I just hate contraception that much.
 
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Starfire said:
I can see why you will fit in well there. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Oh really? You know something I don’t? Some hidden knowledge that can enlighten me? Well go on then show it, show me that this freedom that I enjoy isn’t the truth.
 
Starfire said:
Why would I cast pearls before swine?
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Well, if you really believe that, if you really believe that I am so depraved, so irredeemable, so lost in my Faith that I am unworthy of receiving the pearls you claim to own; the only thing I can say is, I am honoured. I am honoured that my loyalty to Jesus and Mary has earned me such harsh condemnation and chastisement, to be condemned for my Faithfulness shows me that my own Faith has value even if the price I pay is nowhere near as expensive as the price that others have paid.

I desire the Salvation of souls, but if I receive not tolerance and dialogue for my beliefs, but rather rebukes and chastisements, there’s no loss there either. If I can bear such opposition, that means I’m on the right track, both because I’m closer to Jesus and Mary and the pain they suffered on Mount Calvary and simply because it means I have a stronger grip on them and am less likely to let go of them and fall. The Catholic Faith is all about sacrifice, and the recognition of the truth that it is in giving that we receive; when people say that we Catholics have no place in modern society, (our own Prime Minister was among the people who said that, though wasn’t referring to Catholics specifically) we Catholics should feel great joy and honour in that, not merely because such a society is immoral and not worthy of the participation of any morally decent person, but also because it enables to show how good and right our own position is because we are willing to pay such high price for it.

The more we are attacked and suffer at the hands of the Father of Lies, the closer we are to the Mother of God. I do not seek to rock the boat and cause conflict, I respect everyone on here as a fellow-human being with God-given dignity; but if I have to defend the Faith, refuse to apologize for it and bear anger, hatred, rebuke and condemnation for it, I will bear that with joy and honour.
 
Well, linking back to the topic of the thread, it seems rather dishonest for Catholicism and Catholics to espouse blatantly sexist and misogynistic views/beliefs while steadfastly refusing to admit that that is what they are. Replying with a link to a religious song on YouTube featuring a creepy painting as the backdrop doesn’t change the facts. But then you write that you’re simply being bullied and attacked when the truth is that your beliefs cannot be defended via rational argument. So yeah, as I said originally, the news story is not, in fact, newsworthy— it’s the same old sexism we’ve seen from the Catholic Church for the last 2,000 years.
 
Kalinychta said:
Well, linking back to the topic of the thread, it seems rather dishonest for Catholicism and Catholics to espouse blatantly sexist and misogynistic views/beliefs while steadfastly refusing to admit that that is what they are. Replying with a link to a religious song on YouTube featuring a creepy painting as the backdrop doesn’t change the facts. But then you write that you’re simply being bullied and attacked when the truth is that your beliefs cannot be defended via rational argument. So yeah, as I said originally, the news story is not, in fact, newsworthy— it’s the same old sexism we’ve seen from the Catholic Church for the last 2,000 years.
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It’s your choice whether you want to have this discussion or not, you may choose to engage with me or not engage and simply insist that the Church is misogynist and see what benefits maintaining that judgement may have on your life. If you choose to engage, I will indeed respond rationally, I will even stick to quoting from books and textual documents and the like, and use logical formulas; since apparently, songs are automatically disqualified regardless their meaning in entirety or particular lyrics.

With all due respect though, I will say this though out of love and reverence for my Blessed Mother; I find the idea that anyone who find a beautiful depiction of the Blessed Mother “creepy,” both deeply disturbing and extremely pitiful.
 
Greatshield17 said:
It’s your choice whether you want to have this discussion or not, you may choose to engage with me or not engage and simply insist that the Church is misogynist and see what benefits maintaining that judgement may have on your life. If you choose to engage, I will indeed respond rationally, I will even stick to quoting from books and textual documents and the like, and use logical formulas; since apparently, songs are automatically disqualified regardless their meaning in entirety or particular lyrics.

With all due respect though, I will say this though out of love and reverence for my Blessed Mother; I find the idea that anyone who find a beautiful depiction of the Blessed Mother “creepy,” both deeply disturbing and extremely pitiful.
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Most importantly, do you consider yourself to be willing to change your mind? Is there anything that will make you question your beliefs?

Reading your posts, it seems to me you have already taken the position which is more pleasant to you, and it will not change regardless of whatever arguments follow. Then, we can skip the discussion since it will lead nowhere anyway. It's always possible and often seen how believers will make a bunch of strenuous and dubious interpretations of biblical passages to overlook the obvious sexism present.
 
Trophonius said:
Most importantly, do you consider yourself to be willing to change your mind? Is there anything that will make you question your beliefs?

Reading your posts, it seems to me you have already taken the position which is more pleasant to you, and it will not change regardless of whatever arguments follow. Then, we can skip the discussion since it will lead nowhere anyway. It's always possible and often seen how believers will make a bunch of strenuous and dubious interpretations of biblical passages to overlook the obvious sexism present.
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It appears we cannot debate, I will say this though; for years I was convinced deep down that the Catholic Faith was true, and yet I still didn’t revert, I still doubted and put-off reverting. I continued to test and push things in the years leading up to my reversion; I mean, I would be lying if I said there weren’t personal, emotional and psychological factors holding me back and I held back purely out of intellectual doubt but nonetheless, I continued to doubt, test and question until Our Lady of Fatima stepped in gave me that final push to revert.

It takes along time for people to change their religious beliefs, when I get into religious debates online, I don’t expect people to change their beliefs right in front of me; my plan, and the plan of other Catholics, is to plant thoughts in the minds of the people we’re dialoging and debating with, and then entrust them to the Holy Ghost and Our Lady of Grace, hoping and trusting that those thoughts will develop in their minds, and they will run into other people and situations that will ultimately lead them to realize that the Faith is true. So if you were going to try and convince me to change my beliefs, (and to be frank, judging by what you’ve been posting so far, you’re approaches would likely be far from the most effective.) it would be very unlikely you would see it happen on this thread, it would probably take a fairly long time before I would actually change. Especially if there allegedly isn’t a God; if it turns out there is a God who didn’t establish the Catholic Church after all, then it would be easier and quicker for me to change my beliefs because that God would be guiding in me that direction, but if there is no God then things become much more difficult. That is why I have developed confidence in how I interact with people online these past several months, I know I’m not alone when I am in those situations.
 
Greatshield17 said:
It appears we cannot debate, I will say this though; for years I was convinced deep down that the Catholic Faith was true, and yet I still didn’t revert, I still doubted and put-off reverting. I continued to test and push things in the years leading up to my reversion; I mean, I would be lying if I said there weren’t personal, emotional and psychological factors holding me back and I held back purely out of intellectual doubt but nonetheless, I continued to doubt, test and question until Our Lady of Fatima stepped in gave me that final push to revert.

It takes along time for people to change their religious beliefs, when I get into religious debates online, I don’t expect people to change their beliefs right in front of me; my plan, and the plan of other Catholics, is to plant thoughts in the minds of the people we’re dialoging and debating with, and then entrust them to the Holy Ghost and Our Lady of Grace, hoping and trusting that those thoughts will develop in their minds, and they will run into other people and situations that will ultimately lead them to realize that the Faith is true. So if you were going to try and convince me to change my beliefs, (and to be frank, judging by what you’ve been posting so far, you’re approaches would likely be far from the most effective.) it would be very unlikely you would see it happen on this thread, it would probably take a fairly long time before I would actually change. Especially if there allegedly isn’t a God; if it turns out there is a God who didn’t establish the Catholic Church after all, then it would be easier and quicker for me to change my beliefs because that God would be guiding in me that direction, but if there is no God then things become much more difficult. That is why I have developed confidence in how I interact with people online these past several months, I know I’m not alone when I am in those situations.
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We’re not supposed to continue debating. This thread will be closed if we do. Other people might want to comment on the original topic.
 
Kalinychta said:
We’re not supposed to continue debating. This thread will be closed if we do. Other people might want to comment on the original topic.
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We’re not allowed to debate or challenge delusions of religious grandiosity, paranoia, projection or religious based persecution complex, in the religious section!

It’s therefore pointless to continue engaging with religious bigots or anything else in this section as reasonable, thought out and backed up arguments will simply be deleted, how ridiculous.
 
Starfire said:
We’re not allowed to debate or challenge delusions of religious grandiosity, paranoia, projection or religious based persecution complex, in the religious section!

It’s therefore pointless to continue engaging with religious bigots or anything else in this section as reasonable, thought out and backed up arguments will simply be deleted, how ridiculous.
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That’s why I think this entire thread should be in the politics section, not the religion section, because the topic is about women, sexism, and Catholicism. I can understand having a space for religious people to talk amongst themselves without being challenged, but when the subject of a discussion is a controversial news article, then the discussion is political in nature, not religious.
 
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